NFL 2021

Status
Not open for further replies.
So does anyone want to have a go at a full round 1 mock draft? Trades allowed, and you're guessing to what you think the teams will do, not what you think they should do. Highest number of correct guesses of names "wins". Tie break on position correct if you've not got the name right. Mine would be:

1. Jaguars - Trevor Lawrence (QB)
2. Jets - Zach Wilson (QB)
3. 49ers - Justin Fields (QB)
4. Patriots (trade) - Mac Jones (QB). Yes, I think they'll mortgage the future... and it'll come at a serious cost. At least 2 first rounders, plus other picks.
5. Bengals - Penei Sewell (OT)
6. Dolphins - Kyle Pitts (TE). They'll be laughing all the way to the stage with this pick
7. Broncos - Trey Lance (QB). Worried about whether the Panthers might go QB, they pull the trigger on a trade up two spots with the Lions. Probably still quite expensive
8. Panthers - Rashawn Slater (OT)
9. Lions - Davonta Smith (WR). Extra picks and one of the best receivers in the draft. I'm sure they'd be delighted.
10. Cowboys - Patrick Surtain II (CB)
11. Giants - Alijah Vera-Tucker (OG)
12. Eagles - Jaylen Waddle (WR)
13. Chargers - Caleb Farley (CB)
14. Vikings - Kwity Paye (DE)
15. Falcons - Jaycee Horn (CB)
16. Cardinals - Micah Parsons (ILB)
17. Raiders - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (ILB)
18. Dolphins - Najee Harris (RB). I think this is a bit early for Harris, but without any trade-down partners, Dolphins take the best RB in the class
19. Washington - Christian Darrisaw (OT)
20. Bears - Kadarius Toney (WR)
21. Colts - Jaelen Phillips (DE)
22. Titans - Azeez Ojulari (LB)
23. Jets - Travis Etienne (RB)
24. Steelers - Greg Newsome II (CB)
25. Jaguars - Teven Jenkins (OT)
26. Browns - Gregory Rousseau (DE)
27. Ravens - Terrace Marshall Jr (WR)
28. Saints - Elijah Moore (WR). Hell of a lot of receivers going in round 1 but I can see it happening...
29. Packers - Jamin Davis (LB) ... but not to the Packers obviously, as they don't draft receivers in round 1.
30. Bills - Ronnie Perkins (DE)
31. Chiefs - Jalen Mayfield (OT)
32. Bucs - Rashod Bateman (WR)
 
backofthenet said:
So does anyone want to have a go at a full round 1 mock draft? Trades allowed, and you're guessing to what you think the teams will do, not what you think they should do. Highest number of correct guesses of names "wins". Tie break on position correct if you've not got the name right. Mine would be:

1. Jaguars - Trevor Lawrence (QB)
2. Jets - Zach Wilson (QB)
3. 49ers - Justin Fields (QB)
4. Patriots (trade) - Mac Jones (QB). Yes, I think they'll mortgage the future... and it'll come at a serious cost. At least 2 first rounders, plus other picks.
5. Bengals - Penei Sewell (OT)
6. Dolphins - Kyle Pitts (TE). They'll be laughing all the way to the stage with this pick
7. Broncos - Trey Lance (QB). Worried about whether the Panthers might go QB, they pull the trigger on a trade up two spots with the Lions. Probably still quite expensive
8. Panthers - Rashawn Slater (OT)
9. Lions - Davonta Smith (WR). Extra picks and one of the best receivers in the draft. I'm sure they'd be delighted.
10. Cowboys - Patrick Surtain II (CB)
11. Giants - Alijah Vera-Tucker (OG)
12. Eagles - Jaylen Waddle (WR)
13. Chargers - Caleb Farley (CB)
14. Vikings - Kwity Paye (DE)
15. Falcons - Jaycee Horn (CB)
16. Cardinals - Micah Parsons (ILB)
17. Raiders - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (ILB)
18. Dolphins - Najee Harris (RB). I think this is a bit early for Harris, but without any trade-down partners, Dolphins take the best RB in the class
19. Washington - Christian Darrisaw (OT)
20. Bears - Kadarius Toney (WR)
21. Colts - Jaelen Phillips (DE)
22. Titans - Azeez Ojulari (LB)
23. Jets - Travis Etienne (RB)
24. Steelers - Greg Newsome II (CB)
25. Jaguars - Teven Jenkins (OT)
26. Browns - Gregory Rousseau (DE)
27. Ravens - Terrace Marshall Jr (WR)
28. Saints - Elijah Moore (WR). Hell of a lot of receivers going in round 1 but I can see it happening...
29. Packers - Jamin Davis (LB) ... but not to the Packers obviously, as they don't draft receivers in round 1.
30. Bills - Ronnie Perkins (DE)
31. Chiefs - Jalen Mayfield (OT)
32. Bucs - Rashod Bateman (WR)
Click to expand...
Great idea! I'm in, but gonna do some more research first :D
 
RobinLFC said:
Overhyped. Terrace Marshall Jr. WR1 train about to take off.
Click to expand...

Marshall's train has yet to take off since high school. He was rated higher than Chase coming out of HS but the latter ended up significantly better in college (and likely in the pros as well).
 
I don't see the Vikings taking Paye at 14 or any defensive player. If they go defense early it will be after trading down and getting a second round back or a high 3 round. If they stay at 14, I see a an unmissable QB or an offensive lineman.
 
Organic Potatoes said:
:lol: Seriously though, Devonta weighing in at 166#...he’s the one top prospect I think could drop. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Waddle is taken ahead of him.
Click to expand...
Yeah agreed, but I also think he's a prime candidate to be a "how did he drop that far just because of his measurements" candidate if we look back at the draft in a couple of years. Sometimes the talent is just there and you don't worry too much about size and weight.

Raoul said:
He's definitely this year's candidate to be the next. Tyreek Hill. Very similar styles.
Click to expand...
I really thought Waddle would be that guy. I hate comps to Hill just because a guy is fast but Waddle also seems to have the separation based on speed, playmaking abilities and good ball tracking as Hill.
 
calodo2003 said:
We don’t need a receiver at 32. More depth at LB & RB would be helpful.
Click to expand...
You've got RoJo, Lenny, Gio Bernard chasing a ring, Vaughn who can't be worse than last year, and even CJ Prosise on the roster, right? Surely that's enough RB depth? Although it might help if Brady has a reliable receiver out of the backfield who can actually catch a football.

Your roster is pretty solid / great all around imo. You'd indeed be drafting for depth rather than filling up glaring holes for starting players.
 
RobinLFC said:
You've got RoJo, Lenny, Gio Bernard chasing a ring, Vaughn who can't be worse than last year, and even CJ Prosise on the roster, right? Surely that's enough RB depth? Although it might help if Brady has a reliable receiver out of the backfield who can actually catch a football.

Your roster is pretty solid / great all around imo. You'd indeed be drafting for depth rather than filling up glaring holes for starting players.
Click to expand...
Forgot we signed Bernard, but the need for a quality pass catcher in the backfield is important for us.

A potential future starting QB is actually a bigger offensive need for us.

I really think that we will go LB or edge, maybe interior DL, as we are thin-ish in those three areas. Couldn’t hurt with another CB who could push to start. We can look to draft for depth later in the draft.
 
1. Jaguars - Trevor Lawrence (QB)
2. Jets - Zach Wilson (QB)
3. 49ers - Mac Jones (QB)
4. Broncos - Justin Fields (QB)
5. Bengals - Ja'Marr Chase (WR)
6. Dolphins - Penei Sewell (OT)
7. Lions - Rashawn Slater (OT)
8. Bears - Trey Lance (QB)
9. Falcons - Kyle Pitts (TE)
10. Cowboys - Patrick Surtain (CB)
11. Giants - Jaelan Phillips (DE)
12. Eagles - Jalen Waddle (WR)
13. Chargers - Christian Darrisaw (OT)
14. Dolphins - Devonta Smith (WR)
15. Patriots - Micah Parsons (LB)
16. Cardinals - Caleb Farley (CB)
17. Raiders - Zaven Collins (LB)
18. Vikings - Kwity Paye (DE)
19. Washington - Jaycee Horn (CB)
20. Panthers - Alijah Vera-Tucker (OT)
21. Colts - Samuel Cosmi (OT)
22. Titans - Rashod Bateman (WR)
23. Jets - Greg Newsome (CB)
24. Steelers - Najee Harris (RB)
25. Jaguars - Teven Jenkins (OT)
26. Browns - Christian Barmore (DT)
27. Ravens - Gregory Rousseau (DE)
28. Saints - Jayson Oweh (DE)
29. Packers - Terrace Marshall (WR)
30. Bills - Joe Tryon (DE)
31. Chiefs - Jalen Mayfield (OT)
32. Bucs - Trevon Moehrig (S)

Feck this is hard.
 
@RobinLFC

What do you think the Vikings plans are with the O Line, if they pick Paye at 14?
 
JPRouve said:
@RobinLFC

What do you think the Vikings plans are with the O Line, if they pick Paye at 14?
Click to expand...
You'll know a lot better than me mate, I definitely believe you if you say O-line is a bigger worry. It's just that quite a few mocks have Paye to the Vikings (although trading down is a very real possibility given that you don't have a second rounder). E.g. one (fantasy) expert:
There are many who will talk about offensive line with this pick, and while that’s not out of the realm of possibilities, Mike Zimmer had to be sick of watching his defense not generate pressure last year. And to make matters worse, Danielle Hunter is threatening a holdout without a new contract. We already know what this defense looks like without him, and it isn’t pretty. They need someone who can come in and play right away. While Paye is someone who I believe is a bit overrated in this draft class, there are some expecting him to generate top-12 buzz. The Vikings are likely to take the highest pass rusher on their board.
Click to expand...

Another one:
“I think linemen Rashawn Slater or Alijah Vera-Tucker (USC) could be matches here, but I’d opt for an impact pass-rusher. Paye is a similar player to Everson Griffen, who thrived with the Vikings.
Click to expand...

So yeah definitely looks like O-line is a priority but I don't expect Slater or Sewell to be there at 14.
 
RobinLFC said:
You'll know a lot better than me mate, I definitely believe you if you say O-line is a bigger worry. It's just that quite a few mocks have Paye to the Vikings (although trading down is a very real possibility given that you don't have a second rounder). E.g. one (fantasy) expert:


Another one:


So yeah definitely looks like O-line is a priority but I don't expect Slater or Sewell to be there at 14.
Click to expand...

Mocks are terrible, plenty of them were still projecting Barmore until last week. The first quote is a bit perplexing and fairly common with "experts" using last year as a point of reference when the defense was depleted due to injuries, Barr, Hunter and Pierce, are back, Weatherly, Tomlinson, Peterson, Wood and Alexander have been added in free agency. The defense has been the exclusive focus before the draft which should logically see the draft as where the Vikings adds on offense, particularly when they cut Reiff and have one of the worst starting guard that the NFL has ever seen, Dakota Dozier.

Now of course I could be wrong but experts fail to explain the thought process and how they see the Vikings get a starting LT and LG. Since the Vikings have lots of picks in the mid rounds they could package something to go in the mid 2nd but I don't see them do that for Paye, I don't think that he is a home run pick, I could see them do that if one of the mid top 10 guys fell to them at 14. Otherwise I see them pick an athletic DE in the third, someone that will rotate with Wonnum next to Hunter, Tomlinson and Pierce.
 
Feeling very nervous about the Dolphins pick at 6. Trading down form 3 to 12 and back up to 6 looked very smart a month ago.

I'm not sure it still looks smart if Pitts and Chase end up going 4 and 5. An extra pick is great, but we always seem to have loads of picks but very rarely use them to draft top level players. Miami must leave the first round with a top tier pass catcher, no excuses.

Last year's extra Tunsil pick turned into a backup slot corner.


Personally I'm hoping for Pitts but he could well go at 4
 
Last edited:
Tiber said:
Feeling very nervous about the Dolphins pick at 6. Trading down form 3 to 12 and back up to 6 looked very smart a month ago.

I'm not sure it still looks smart if Pitts and Chase end up going 4 and 5. An extra pick is great, but we always seem to have loads of picks but very rarely use them to draft top level players. Miami must leave the first round with a top tier pass catcher, no excuses.

Last year's extra Tunsil pick turned into a backup slot corner.


Personally I'm hoping for Pitts but he could well go at 4
Click to expand...
Well, we already know they have been talking to Denver. That might just be because the GMs are old friends, but that still could be useful. In this scenario, Sewell is going to be one of the next two picks so at #9 you would still pick up one of Waddle or Smith.
 


Can't see it to be honest. Top 3 will be QBs, Denver will/might grab one and that's without any teams trading up or into the top 10 to grab one themselves.
 
Rumours suggest that both the Chargers and Vikings are after Orlando Brown Jr. It seems that both teams will have new LTs on draft night.
 
JPRouve said:
Rumours suggest that both the Chargers and Vikings are after Orlando Brown Jr. It seems that both teams will have new LTs on draft night.
Click to expand...
Well, one of those names was right... edit: the pick KC is getting is a 2nd this year in a deep draft at important positions. So they get the best OT possible for them and a 2nd; fantastic.

 
Last edited:
Organic Potatoes said:
Well, one of those names was right... edit: the pick KC is getting is a 2nd this year in a deep draft at important positions. So they get the best OT possible for them and a 2nd; fantastic.

Click to expand...


That's an amazing deal. Now I really don't see the Vikings take anything else than an OL at 14.
 
RobinLFC said:


Can't see it to be honest. Top 3 will be QBs, Denver will/might grab one and that's without any teams trading up or into the top 10 to grab one themselves.
Click to expand...

Agree. No way, in my opinion that one of the top 5 QB's slides past the Patriots at 15... and even then I can see the Patriots trading up to get one of those 5 along with Denver.
 
Why did I think the Draft was this weekend? I have been googling my phone since last night wondering what's going on and why has it not started yet:(
 
I take it, it’s only Sky Sports that are going to be broadcasting the draft or will other channels here in the UK be showing it as well?
 
Organic Potatoes said:
It’s draft week, so here’s an old gem in case you missed it or forgot.

Click to expand...


Terrible move by Ditka - although Ricky did have a great career and would probably be on a HOF shortlist if he didn't take two years off to travel the world and practice buddhism (or whatever the hell he did). He finished with a higher career average than Edge.
 
Raoul said:
Terrible move by Ditka - although Ricky did have a great career and would probably be on a HOF shortlist if he didn't take two years off to travel the world and practice buddhism (or whatever the hell he did). He finished with a higher career average than Edge.
Click to expand...
He was the OG Marshawn Lynch.
 
Really hoping we take Fields or Lance at 3…just so long as we don’t go for Jones.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.