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Who would they replace him with who is half the quarterback Romo is? They have far bigger problems than their QB.

Get someone in the draft or trade for another QB. Romo doesn't have the mentality to be the Dallas QB, he's proven that time and again that when the team needs him to get a TD, he can't.

I agree there are other problems with Dallas aside from QB (OL being one, game management another) but if all Jerry Jones is going to do this offseason is replace the defensive coordinator then that's not enough IMO.
 
Here's a pretty good way to turn a minor citation into a trip to jail.
Rolando McClain, an Oakland Raiders linebacker whose career has been mostly a major disappointment since he was the team's 2010 first-round pick, was pulled over Tuesday because the window tint on his car was too dark. Annoying, for sure. But, for a player who isn't doing well with the Raiders and has had legal issues before, signing the ticket, paying the fine and keeping his name out of the news was probably the best plan.
But no, McClain didn't go that route.
According to the Decatur (Tenn.) Daily, the officer thought McClain signed the ticket, but what he found on the ticket where the signature should be was the message, "feck y'all." When the officer asked McClain to sign his real name, the linebacker replied, "That is my name,” police spokesman Lt. John Crouch told the Decatur Daily.
This came after, according to the police information officer, McClain was asked for driver's license and proof of insurance and replied, “You know who I am.”
And that's how McClain turned a violation on tinted windows into a trip to Decatur City Jail. He was charged with giving a false name and the window tint violation, and released on $1,000 cash bail, the paper said. He could have avoided the arrest by signing the ticket, the Decatur Police told the paper.
“I’m falsely accused of everything,” McClain said as he left City Hall, according to the Decatur Daily. “It’s corrupt. It’s terrible.”
McClain said he provided a letter from his doctor explaining the dark tint (we've heard it all now), but refused twice to roll the window up so the officer on the scene could check the tint. The paper asked McClain if he thought the police were out to get him.
“Yes. You said it. I answered it,” McClain said.
This isn't the first time McClain has been in the news for the wrong reasons.
In November of 2012 McClain had misdemeanor assault charges dropped when the victim decided not to pursue charges. McClain was accused of holding a gun next to the man's head and firing it next to his ear.
The Raiders can't be thrilled with this last bit of very avoidable bad news. But if the team does bring him back, it can replace the name on the back of his jersey with "feck y'all."

I like this story for some reason. I love the stupidity of it all, the arrogance. Everything about it
 
Get someone in the draft or trade for another QB. Romo doesn't have the mentality to be the Dallas QB, he's proven that time and again that when the team needs him to get a TD, he can't.

I agree there are other problems with Dallas aside from QB (OL being one, game management another) but if all Jerry Jones is going to do this offseason is replace the defensive coordinator then that's not enough IMO.

The first part is typical fanatical response when it comes to Romo and other criticized players. He's proven plenty of times he can get that TD when the team needs it - evident by his 5 game-winning drives this year (led or tied the league if I'm not mistaken) and 31 in his career (9th amongst active QBs). He makes mistakes too, they all do, some more than others, but when a player draws a certain reputation the overreaction is always myopic. Not every final drive results in a win for a QB - plenty come up short.

Romo is basically a Brett Favre clone - a gunslinger that makes plenty of mistakes and he's never had the great supporting cast Favre did. And for all the hype Favre drew he only won a single championship and had plenty of abysmal performances in big games. If the Dallas defense could get eight defensive TDs next season perhaps Romo could go on a Brees-esque playoff run as well. Lost in that Saints championship run was how many bounces went the right way for the Saints defenders, often bailing them out of holes.

Romo is the 5th highest rated passer in NFL history (I'm not a huge fan of the statistic but lots of people are), 6th all-time in completion percentage (not too shabby for a guy that throws interceptions, I mean he's no Tebow out there completing sub 50%). He has a better career INT % than such luminaries as Eli Manning and the aforementioned Favre. He's also top ten in a bunch of other minor statistical categories like yards per attempt. No one argues he's in the greatest ever category but the anti-Romo's act as if the guy can't play at all, as if he's a scrub like Scott Mitchell or Rex Grossman, or even believe Joe Flacco is better.

I hope you are aware the number of QBs that have "the mentality to be the Dallas QB" can be counted on one hand. And not a single one of them will be leaving their current club. Granted there could be more in another person's view but we'll never actually know. Bledsoe, Henson, Carter - those guys didn't have the mentality yet Romo certainly does or he'd have performed like those clowns and would have been replaced long time ago.

There's also not a single player in the 2013 draft that is what one would label "a lock" to be a franchise QB. I would like to see a guy like Geno Smith get drafted in the 2nd rd and groomed to possibly take over in a couple years if necessary, but that's unlikely and not necessary. Smith will probably be gone by late first round/early second round and there are far more crucial areas for Dallas to address than backup/future QB in the draft.

Trading Romo will get no value in return for a player of his caliber. Go out and get Flynn, Sanchez, Smith or Vick - feck no - he's far better. He could easily lift a team like the Chiefs or Cardinals into relevancy yet it still takes a collective effort to make the playoffs and win, and believe me if Romo were a free agent there would be a caravan of teams inquiring to sign him.

As Eric Mangini and Steve Young have stated, fans get too caught up in QB wins/losses and completely miss the crucial aspects of the game. Plenty of all-time greats were crucified for not winning the big games until they either did or retired without doing so. Marino never won out, Fouts and Tarkenton as well, and yet they were outstanding QBs and among the best of their eras, and they now get free passes by critics but it wasn't always the case. And you can bet your house if any had been a Dallas QB the criticism would have been through the roof.

Elway and Young were crucified for years until a team effort won championships and took the proverbial monkey off their back, and it took Elway fifteen years to win the big game (I was never one that criticized - he guided three average Broncos teams to SBs in the 80s, partly because of him but also partly because of an extremely weak AFC - they'd have been perennial one-and-done in the NFC playoffs). Peyton choked routinely in the postseason until one great January run, and how fortunate his opposing QB in the SB was Rex Grossman (!). It took Peyton nine years to win - Romo will be in his eighth year as a starter in 2013 - time is still on his side but it takes a team effort to win. Very few teams win championships, some haven't in decades, some never.

Romo is a current top ten QB and whether he leads Dallas to a championship or not will not diminish how good he actually is. He could win a Super Bowl and he'd still be hated and crucified - it's the nature of being the QB of the most hated club in the NFL, and arguably only behind the Yankees on the national hate scale. Aikman won three championships and the anti-Cowboy fans blasted about how crap he was, how he was lucky he had Emmitt and Irvin, his lack of game-winning drives (they were often winning), and how he was a statistically poor passer, completely missing the offensive scheme employed was run-run-pass, that Aikman was the most accurate passer of his era, and that he was capable of winning games and leading. Mike Martz stated that had he been Aikman's OC/QBC that he would have passed for 4000 yards every season in his offense nullifying the statistical criticism.

It should also be noted that Aikman had a superior collection of players to surround him, which doesn't belittle his greatness, but Romo has never had that save the 2007 season and arguably in 2009 - both years the club bombed out in the postseason but not because of Romo (he did torch Philly in 2009 before the Vikings pounded Dallas). The dropped FG hold in 2006 started the reputation and has been blown way out of proportion. One may also cite his last minute interception against the Giants in 2007 but completely ignoring the touchdown pass drop in the 3rd quarter of that game which would have put Dallas up 21-14, they eventually settled for a FG... final score, 21-17. So it would have been 21-21 on the final drive and there would have been no interception - Dallas was in position to attempt a winning FG in a tie-score.

These are things critics miss - they just latch onto the reputation and certain performances. Yes he's fecked up in big games but he's won games to put Dallas in those positions. I'd still have him over 20 other starters in the league, arguably as high as 26.
 
Firing Rob Ryan and Skip Peete were not necessarily the big changes needed (GM, HC, etc.) but we all know Jerry won't fire himself and he won't fire Garrett (not yet at least).

Ryan has an overrated reputation probably mainly due to his dad's past and his own mouth and boasting, but an interesting stat from PTI today - Ryan in 9 seasons as a DC has had one (1) top 10 defense. The rest of the years his defenses ranked in the 20s. This should prove he's overrated arrogant gobshite that spouts off too much, as evident by his "five minutes" quote after his firing.

Please bring Lovie Smith in as DC. He'd also be the future HC-in-waiting when Jerry finally realizes Garrett is crap too.
 
Manning Vs Brady
Packers Vs Falcons

Manning Vs Packers

Manning champion.

Eli cannot end up with more Superbowl's than Peyton.....it would be a travesty.
 
Well said MrMarcello.

A QB with the same (or greater) talent level of Romo being available via trade of free agency is not likely is it, unless there are other factors involved. Such as Brees’ shoulder or Warner’s Arizona resurgence. Pocket passers without either the physical tools to succeed consistently or the mental attributes can be found all around the league and are not an improvement. They flash and produce from time to time like a Fitzpatrick, Cutler but the total package is hard to find. I think were just a bit spoiled at the moment with the top end talent in the league (Rodgers, Brady, Manning) and also rookies coming in and making it look easy so far.

A lot of it is circumstance when it comes to players reputations. For example, watching the AFC East I always used to think Chad Pennington was more talented than given credit for in terms of decision making, accuracy, mental aspects of the game etc. Mediocre talent around him and injuries that took a toll on him, especially the shoulder were key. I’m not claiming that he would have been Brady or Manning if everything fell his way, but he was competitive.

There’s been a lot of talk of Flacco winning a post-season game per year recently and as you’ve said before, what would happen if Romo played for the Ravens. Roethlisberger has won and made big throws in the Superbowl but is he really that different from Romo talent wise? Or have circumstances, the team around him and admittedly his own play at times all been a part of his clutch reputation. As a neutral, they can both do stupid shit leading to turnovers or sacks/hits. However, with that you also get the extension of plays and playmaking ability that leads to TD’s like the Heath Miller one when they played each other.
 
I just find the endless discussion about Tony Romo's elite or top 10 status completely tiresome and pointless. Its based purely on the team he plays for, who have been irrelevant for the better part of 20 years.
 
I just find the endless discussion about Tony Romo's elite or top 10 status completely tiresome and pointless. Its based purely on the team he plays for, who have been irrelevant for the better part of 20 years.

shhhh....America's team and all...
 
Time to see if my prediction was correct! Denver v Baltimore... can't wait to see how Ray Lewis plays!
 
14-14, superb game so far.

I too dislike Peyton, but I really want to see him v Brady in the AFC Championship game so am begrudgingly rooting for him.
 
TD Broncos! Lovely throw.

The much revered ravens D is not doing so well.
 
Not allowed to have a group celebration?! What a shit rule :lol:
 
Terrible attempt at a FG.

Good chance for Baltimore to get some points to end the half....
 
What a catch!!

That was too easy. An elite drive from Flacco and co. Just as it looked as if Denver were pulling ahead, it's tied at 21.
 
Great half of football.

I think Baltimore will win this.
 
Where can I find streams for the Broncos game? My usual source isn't helping me.

edit: never mind, it's on Sky!
 
What an ugly drive full of penalties and ends in a fumble. Denver ball.
 
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