New Stadium | 100k Stadium to be built

Would you rather a new stadium or rebuild Old Trafford?

  • New stadium

    Votes: 1,113 58.2%

  • Rebuild Old Trafford

    Votes: 799 41.8%
  • Total voters
    1,912
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As sad as I am to lose old Trafford, getting 40,000 more fans in the stadium than any other club in the country is a pretty cool thing to have.

Basically the Emirates plus Villa Park every week.
 
Herman Toothrot said:
I think you’re seriously underestimating how slowly the season ticket waiting list moves. I’ve been a member for years and you can never get tickets for big games. I’ve paid thousands of pounds to see the games season ticket holders couldn’t be bothered to show up for. I live 2 miles from the ground, and I’ll never get in to see games against City or Liverpool because thousands of people from down south will always turn up for these games. They’ll sit on their season tickets like dragons until they die. The ground is full of old people with season tickets and tourists willing to stump up hundreds to see a single match. The club are not coming to those of us who have paid premium membership for the last couple of seasons and offering us season tickets because tourists are worth more than locals


A new stadium will greatly increase the income of the club in the long-term. It will more than pay for itself and making more room for local fans and those willing to pay a premium for an ‘experience’. The potential for United to secure their place at the very top indefinitely will be unlocked by a new ground. It has to happen.
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I used to have a season ticket until 2009, I had to give it up because I had young kids and my ex wife worked weekends. I transferred it to a mate who lives in London, but he is up and down for every game to his credit. I have other mates from Northampton who can't realistically make week night games, so I've had these off him for the past few years. I've seen all manner of Europa League games and cup games against the dross, but like you, because I take my kids with me these days, I need 3 together, and nobody is giving up 3 tickets for a City/Liverpool game so that I can take them.

The worst thing they ever did was change the membership ticket application from a ballot for every game to a free for all where you apply months in advance. I went on early in the season, and I was number 130,000 in the queue, I just turned it off.
 
Adz_99 said:
As sad as I am to lose old Trafford, getting 40,000 more fans in the stadium than any other club in the country is a pretty cool thing to have.

Basically the Emirates plus Villa Park every week.
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If we had that capacity now we’d have an embarrassing amount of empty seats every week
 
Herman Toothrot said:
I think you’re seriously underestimating how slowly the season ticket waiting list moves. I’ve been a member for years and you can never get tickets for big games. I’ve paid thousands of pounds to see the games season ticket holders couldn’t be bothered to show up for. I live 2 miles from the ground, and I’ll never get in to see games against City or Liverpool because thousands of people from down south will always turn up for these games. They’ll sit on their season tickets like dragons until they die. The ground is full of old people with season tickets and tourists willing to stump up hundreds to see a single match. The club are not coming to those of us who have paid premium membership for the last couple of seasons and offering us season tickets because tourists are worth more than locals


A new stadium will greatly increase the income of the club in the long-term. It will more than pay for itself and making more room for local fans and those willing to pay a premium for an ‘experience’. The potential for United to secure their place at the very top indefinitely will be unlocked by a new ground. It has to happen.
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Again. I'm not sure. From people I've spoken to, they've moved up the list rapidly if they're not after a premium location.

My cousin is a member and he's had tickets for almost every game. The ones he hasn't, I've got for him on here or the UWS forum.

"More room for local fans" only the rich ones. I don't really want to pay £66 a game.

Regarding the bit in bold. Like it's done for Arsenal and Spurs? With Arsenal, wasn't the expense of the Emirates used as an excuse for them selling all their best players and not spending money for the best part of a decade?
 
Adz_99 said:
As sad as I am to lose old Trafford, getting 40,000 more fans in the stadium than any other club in the country is a pretty cool thing to have.

Basically the Emirates plus Villa Park every week.
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That’s wild. Must admit I look forward to seeing that.
 
KStandBarmyArmy1993 said:
I always see the "left behind" argument but left behind from what exactly?

The club already makes an insane amount of money. Its just been invested terribly since 2013.

A bigger ground meaning more seats could give the club a defining opportunity to keep prices at an "affordable" level. Actually, give something back to the fans that have turned up every week without fail. Truly putting the Manchester back into Manchester United. They won't though. It gives them an opportunity for one more massive price hike.


That's obviously where it's going.
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I don’t understand why you keep arguing for the status quo, when the last 20 years have lead us to the brink, and made us the laughing stock of English football.
 
groovyalbert said:
Any word on where we'll play whilst it's being constructed? Ground share or build next to existing stadium?
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If it's a new stadium, which it sounds like it will be, then it'll be behind the existing stadium, and we'll play at OT until it's finished.
 
KStandBarmyArmy1993 said:
I always see the "left behind" argument but left behind from what exactly?
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Modernization. Better facilities for fans and players, new technology etc. Also it won't just be the stadium, but development around it. You can look at it one way that it will bring in a lot more jobs and exposure to the area.

But the average match going fan will definitely be negatively affected.
 
I'd always heard a rumour that nobody in the country was allowed to build a bigger stadium than Wembley, obviously that appears to be rubbish.
 
I'm really hoping it's got some sort of industrial yet modern feel, with brick included. No metallic bowl please.
 
Mullet_Man said:
From the interview am sure he said United will pay for the stadium but the government need to pay for the regeneration of the area, he said there's no point in doing it if the whole area doesn't get regenerated as part of the project. Said something like it can't be a few houses and shopping centre, needs to be a massive rebuild.

So let's see if the government back all this as it won't happen without it
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The freight yard is key I think. We want to use that land, but we need the authorities to move the trains away so we can.

Rachel Reeves has already stated this regeneration plan is part of her plan for growth. It should be a problem.
 
Solius said:
I'm really hoping it's got some sort of industrial yet modern feel, with brick included. No metallic bowl please.
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I’m imagining the Lusail stadium in red, having looked at other foster projects like the London Authority building and the Gherkin.

I think it will be equal parts amazing and disappointing - hope I’m wrong.
 
Devil_forever said:
Just saw the full interview, the new stadium is hugely dependent on the government committing to the biggest regeneration project this country has ever seen. Given our governments' track record, I'm very doubtful that this actually happens. I think they'll unveil the stadium design tomorrow but with a massive caveat.
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Having now watched his interview with Neville, I suspect you may be right.

United will only pursue a new build, if the goverment commits to a regeneration project for south Manchester. That does give Ratcliffe a handy get-out. Looks like the ball is in Rachel Reeves' court.
 
Keep the crowd/stands close to the pitch and none of that Olympic race track in between crowd/pitch, please.
 
romufc said:
Are you expecting Manutd and SJR to fund a whole area regeneration?

They obviously know how much a new stadium will cost and wont be spending time and money on mock ups that they know are not deliverable.
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Please read my post again.
 
It’s a disgrace that the deterioration of OT allowed by the Glazers has led to this.

At least we’ll get our PL attendance record back which was illegitimately stolen from us by Spurs
 
IRELANDUNITED said:
This is going to absolutely boil the piss of the ABU’s; you love to see it.
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I already saw a Newcastle fan on twitter claim that United will now be "state-owned" because "the government are paying for their stadium"

A) They're not

B) It's amusing how much things bother people when it's United, that don't bother them when it's their own club.
 
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