New PC

I see you've gained plenty of knowledge since then. :smirk:
All the time I spent running around for my PC has certainly helped :lol:
Yes he can! I suggested a friend a machine for around 300 quid that can play all the latest games at decent settings, play hd movies, use photoshop etc at good speeds.

Here are the specs:

Processor - AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-74GMT-S2
GPU - SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5750 1GB or 5670 (its even cheaper)
RAM - Kingston 2GB 1333 DDR3
HD - Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200.12
Case - Cooler Master Elite 430
PSU - CORSAIR 450VX
CD/DVD - LG GH22LS50

Edit: It comes exactly to 300 quid. dont know about uk prices but if you convert from us dollars then it exactly comes to £300.
This one is good for the price but the GPU's mentioned there will get outdated pretty quickly. 5670 is a good budget card but performance not even close to the 5770 let alone other higher end cards. He might as well spend a bit more on the GPU now than wasting cash later?

Your earlier setup was great but I think over his budget at 600!
Beware of Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB hard drive - SlashGear

I posted the 7200.12 whilst the one you've posted is 7200.11.

I think the 300 quid machine i posted would suit your needs fine. Adding another stick of 2gb ram wouldn't hurt either.
Yeah 4 GB RAM is needed. I yet need to upgrade mine to 4. Any idea how much the price here in India has dropped to?
 
Yes he can! I suggested a friend a machine for around 300 quid that can play all the latest games at decent settings, play hd movies, use photoshop etc at good speeds.

Here are the specs:

Processor - AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-74GMT-S2
GPU - SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5750 1GB or 5670 (its even cheaper)
RAM - Kingston 2GB 1333 DDR3
HD - Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200.12
Case - Cooler Master Elite 430
PSU - CORSAIR 450VX
CD/DVD - LG GH22LS50

Edit: It comes exactly to 300 quid. dont know about uk prices but if you convert from us dollars then it exactly comes to £300.

Went looking around for this and I can't find the Processor or Motherboard for sale in the UK.

If you need to save money just go get an i3 or i5 :D

Why Intel over AMD then mate? Vida seems to have the opposite view completely to you.
 
Why Intel over AMD then mate? Vida seems to have the opposite view completely to you.

Well I've always been an Intel fan. And he was saying AMD is a good option due to cross fire because the motherboard you need for the AMD processors lets you have a multi GPU system. However the GPU your buying is good enough then does not really matter if you use Intel or AMD. Tbh their both really good but Intel's just generally trusted more :p
 
Well taking into consideration everyone's posts I came up with this

Processor -
Motherboard -
GPU - Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £111.61
RAM - Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) - £65.99
HD - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000528AS) - £45.99
Case - Coolermaster Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £41.99
PSU - Corsair CX 600W ATX Power Supply (CMPSU-600CXUK) - 59.98
CD/DVD -


That has a running total of £325.57. A CD/DVD drive isn't really an issue as I can just bring over the one from my old pc right? It gets used very little. Still not sure what route to go down with AMD and Intel as they both seem convincing in there own ways.

EDIT: Looks like what I've done is basically accidentally amass the individual pieces of these two :lol:

"Titan Punisher" Intel Core i3 540 3.06GHz @ 4.20GHz DDR3 System []

"Titan Krypt" AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.00GHz Quad Core DDR3 System []
 
Well taking into consideration everyone's posts I came up with this

Processor -
Motherboard -
GPU - Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £111.61
RAM - Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) - £65.99
HD - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000528AS) - £45.99
Case - Coolermaster Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £41.99
PSU - Corsair CX 600W ATX Power Supply (CMPSU-600CXUK) - 59.98
CD/DVD -


That has a running total of £325.57. A CD/DVD drive isn't really an issue as I can just bring over the one from my old pc right? It gets used very little. Still not sure what route to go down with AMD and Intel as they both seem convincing in there own ways.

EDIT: Looks like what I've done is basically accidentally amass the individual pieces of these two :lol:

"Titan Punisher" Intel Core i3 540 3.06GHz @ 4.20GHz DDR3 System []

"Titan Krypt" AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.00GHz Quad Core DDR3 System []
Yes you can use your old CD/DVD drive as long as it's in working condition. Hmm so it's coming to 325. How much more do you want to/can spend on the setup?
 
Yes you can use your old CD/DVD drive as long as it's in working condition. Hmm so it's coming to 325. How much more do you want to/can spend on the setup?

Yeah it's used so little it seems a waste to replace it. Yeah I went to the 5770 on your advice and the 1tb hard drive seemed convenient although I've got about 1tb left on my external hd. My top limit is £600 any more and I'll be selling body parts to science. When I started out I suppose I was thinking about £500 so anything between those two figures is perfect.
 
You can't get anything better than Athlon?

Is Athlon no good because Vida seemed to have that as the best in my price range? Buying the individual components, the Phenom seems to be almost twice the price of the Athlon and I wouldn't know where to start with a motherboard for it if I was to self-build the pc apart from Vida's set up on the first page which went over budget.

The only ready made intel system in that price range on ocuk is

"Titan Punisher" Intel Core i3 540 3.06GHz @ 4.20GHz DDR3 System []

which pushes my budget close.

Not that i'm not open to building the pc myself if it means getting much more for my money it's just I'm using these as guides of what I can get. Little bit out of my depth.
 
It is better to go for a quad core rather than a dual core processor because software/game developers will be making applications/games for quad core processors and you'll be safe for the future aswell.

x4 640 and i3-530 are similar but x4 edges it for me. although the quad core of intel (i5 or i7) is better than amd's quad core processors but they're more expensive aswell.

The Core i3-530 and the Athlon II 640 proved to have around the same overall performance level, making the decision of which CPU to buy purely a decision of which brand you like the most, if you are an average user.

However, there were some specific scenarios that deserve reconsideration of the above statement. If you run professional applications that can recognize and use more than two CPU cores, the Athlon II X4 640 is a better option. Even though the Core i3-530 can simulate two extra cores through the use of the Hyper-Threading technology, CPU-intensive programs will run faster on CPUs with “real” cores: the Athlon II X4 640 crushed the Core i3-530 in 3D rendering (36% faster on Cinebench) and provided a pretty decent advantage on DivX conversion (14% faster on VirtualDub using DivX codec).

On the other hand, the integrated video present in the Core i3-530 processor was much faster than the integrated video provided by the AMD 890GX chipset, 41% on Call of Duty 4. But don’t get excited: with only 19 frames per second with all image quality settings configured at their lowest values, it will be very unlikely that you will play games with the integrated video available in this processor (or, let’s be honest, with any kind of integrated video). But on FarCry 2, both integrated video solutions achieved the same performance level.

Playing these games using a real video card (we used a Radeon HD 5670) gave a tiny advantage to the Core i3-530, but with only a four-percent performance difference between the two benchmarked CPUs, we are more inclined to say that both achieved the same performance level.

Athlon II X4 640 vs. Core i3 530 CPU Review | Hardware Secrets

value-perf-bar-sysprices.gif


Still no! A weekend away and a few heavy days in work have left me with no time at all to sort this.

At the moment though this is probably winning

"Titan Krypt" AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.00GHz Quad Core DDR3 System []

Take out the os and upgrade to the 5770 it comes to a little over £500.

Hopefully make a final decision today as I'm getting the need for a FM2011 fix soon.

yeah thats good...although they're giving a 600w psu which you dont need. 500w is the max you'll need. they should have given corsair 450w instead.
 
Cheers Vida for taking the time to educate me there, appreciate that. The site you linked to seems a good one too.

Going to give ocuk a ring shortly and see if they'll give me a 450/500w and lower the price a little and then order :D.
 
The detail in this thread scares the bejesus out of us, it might as well be written in Mandarin.

I had a look at that Overclockers website, but that didn't help much.

Had an advertising piece come through the door at the weekend for this:

Buy HP 100-5130UK | ALL IN ONE PC - All-In-One Computers & Apple iMac | Comet

Is that any good for general PC use?

I don't really need anything too fancy, mainly just for web browsing, downloading music/ebooks/films. To sync my ipod and soon to be iphone.

I've had a few cheap pcs and they've been dead within 12 months, but 1TB and 500MB seems pretty good as memory capacity goes?
 
I presume you mean 500GB ;)

That's a poor price for a PC of that calibre really. overclockers are also overpriced.

hardwareversand.de is a great site, cheap enough delivery too.

You wouldn't be tempted to build your own PC? You'd get the equivalent of that for around 300-350 quid and it'd be less likely to burn out after a year too.
 
I presume you mean 500GB ;)

That's a poor price for a PC of that calibre really. overclockers are also overpriced.

hardwareversand.de is a great site, cheap enough delivery too.

You wouldn't be tempted to build your own PC? You'd get the equivalent of that for around 300-350 quid and it'd be less likely to burn out after a year too.

Haha 500GB, yeah sorry.

That's with £200, so i'm guessing £699 was plain stupid pricing!

My problem is that i'm pretty useless when it comes to technology, and the idea of building a pc leaves me baffled - unless it was a case of simply buying separate components. When it comes to buying individual drives etc and building a motherboard, i'd simply have no clue.

I will check out that site though - ideally i want something that will last me a few years for what i'd class as general use and a bit of gaming assuming the graphics were up to speed.
 
Haha 500GB, yeah sorry.

That's with £200, so i'm guessing £699 was plain stupid pricing!

My problem is that i'm pretty useless when it comes to technology, and the idea of building a pc leaves me baffled - unless it was a case of simply buying separate components. When it comes to buying individual drives etc and building a motherboard, i'd simply have no clue.

I will check out that site though - ideally i want something that will last me a few years for what i'd class as general use and a bit of gaming assuming the graphics were up to speed.

Oh dear, well if you think you have to build motherboards then maybe you are in over your head!

PC building really isn't as daunting as you'd think. There's lots of brilliant online guides on doing it, as long as your following them thoroughly. The main thing you need to know is that static electricity can seriously damage things, so get a wristband or don't wear socks! I had absolutely no clue when I built one years and years ago, but it ended up fine.

Basically, you need:
Case
PSU
Motherboard
RAM
CPU (and fan)
Harddrive
DVD drive

and then keyboard, mouse, monitor if you haven't got them already. What's your preferred budget then?
 
Oh dear, well if you think you have to build motherboards then maybe you are in over your head!
PC building really isn't as daunting as you'd think. There's lots of brilliant online guides on doing it, as long as your following them thoroughly. The main thing you need to know is that static electricity can seriously damage things, so get a wristband or don't wear socks! I had absolutely no clue when I built one years and years ago, but it ended up fine.

Basically, you need:
Case
PSU
Motherboard
RAM
CPU (and fan)
Harddrive
DVD drive

and then keyboard, mouse, monitor if you haven't got them already. What's your preferred budget then?

:lol: That's about right in all fairness mate.

I'd work on the cheaper the better, but anywhere between 500-800 is expected. I'd spend more if it was actually worth spending rather than just effectively wasting it on something unnecessary.
 
:lol: That's about right in all fairness mate.

I'd work on the cheaper the better, but anywhere between 500-800 is expected. I'd spend more if it was actually worth spending rather than just effectively wasting it on something unnecessary.

Pounds?? You'd buy a monster of a rig for that. Sounds like £400 would be more than enough for what you need. I'll have a look later, I've not built a rig in years and years (8 hours in front of a PC at work is all I need), but I'll see.
 
Pounds?? You'd buy a monster of a rig for that. Sounds like £400 would be more than enough for what you need. I'll have a look later, I've not built a rig in years and years (8 hours in front of a PC at work is all I need), but I'll see.

Pounds yeah, but that was looking at the likes of PC World / Curry's etc.

But any advice you have on building a rig would be much appreciated Cina.

Cheers.
 
You probably want to throw in a graphics card there too. Not all motherboards come with onboard graphics and when they do they are crap ones.

Unless your not bothered about that of course
 
You also need to consider the wiring and a power supply too. I'm not entirely sure building a PC would be your best option. For lower range models (ie not high spec) it's generally cheaper to just buy a PC
 
You also need to consider the wiring and a power supply too. I'm not entirely sure building a PC would be your best option. For lower range models (ie not high spec) it's generally cheaper to just buy a PC

They're really not cheaper at all.

Look at this build someone posted on another forum:

attachment.php

PSU needs to be a bit better on that, but €471 = £415, add a nice HD monitor to that like this (unless you've got a HD tv you'd prefer to use:
hardwareversand.de - Artikel-Information - Samsung SyncMaster P2270H (HDMI, 70.000:1)

and that's around £530 total, for that you've a quad CPU to multi task on, decent storage and a GPU more than capable of playing most games on high settings in HD. You won't get a pre-built with specs like that.