New cheaper XB360s on the way?

[Jimble]

But it obviously would come down.

And it will come down again over the next 6 or 12 months. Sony want to win the BlueRay vs HD DVD war as well so they will take losses to do so because the payoff in games and BlueRay films will be so massive if they win.

Laserdisc FTW

 

[WeasteDevil]

Laserdisc FTW

What does Laserdisc have to do with anything?

 

[Jimble]

What does Laserdisc have to do with anything?

the forgotten format

 

[WeasteDevil]

If you couldn't guess that the price of a console would drop significantly from the launch price over the first year or two then I despair.

I will probably hang off getting one until after Christmas when I hope there is another price cut. I don't like the lack of backwards compatibility mind.

The old units should still be around. Look at the new Europe prices. 40Gb new model £299/€399 RRP console only to 60Gb old model £359/€480 RRP with two games included. I reckon you could pick up the 60Gb for around £300 come the end of November.

 

[WeasteDevil]

the forgotten format

It was actually very good but a little out of the gap for its time.

 

[WeasteDevil]

Can you explain that to us thickos who don't speak your language ?

cheers.

Nanometers are the space between each component on a piece of silicon. The closer you can put them together, the less silicon you use, the power is less, and the heat dissipation is less. The former means you don't use as much raw material, and the middle that you can reduce the power supply, and the latter you can reduce the cooling required. It cuts manufacturing costs on the main components by up to 40%. The original PS3 and XB360 were 90nm on their two/three main chips. The new PS3 should be 65nm. The Falcon XB360 was supposed to also be but does not yet seem to be so, it could be a smaller shrink, maybe to 80nm.

 

[WeasteDevil]

As a side note, an 80nm should not require a redesign. 65nm almost certainly always requires the entire chip to be redesigned.

 

[gaffs]

But it obviously would come down.

And it will come down again over the next 6 or 12 months. Sony want to win the BlueRay vs HD DVD war as well so they will take losses to do so because the payoff in games and BlueRay films will be so massive if they win.

Yeah, I know it was going to drop. But not after 6 months and not after being told it wouldn’t by Sony. Perhaps a little naive on my part to believe a suit. Telling people that the price wont drop is a great way for Sony to get people to buy now, rather than holding out for a price drop.

 

[Sam]

because they need to make some room in the warehouse for their next project, and it is full to the rafters with unwanted ps3's?

That put a really great image in my head of all these Japanese Sony workers scratching their heads, while looking at the PS3'S in the warehouse, wondering what to do with them.

Nanometers are the space between each component on a piece of silicon. The closer you can put them together, the less silicon you use, the power is less, and the heat dissipation is less. The former means you don't use as much raw material, and the middle that you can reduce the power supply, and the latter you can reduce the cooling required. It cuts manufacturing costs on the main components by up to 40%. The original PS3 and XB360 were 90nm on their two/three main chips. The new PS3 should be 65nm. The Falcon XB360 was supposed to also be but does not yet seem to be so, it could be a smaller shrink, maybe to 80nm.

Cheers

 

[WeasteDevil]

Looks to me as if they are keeping the prices on hold for now. Interesting.