Gaming New Baghdad-set Assassin's Creed game will reportedly be called Mirage

It is embarrassing. It shows how much they struggle when they leave from their formula. Far Cry, Watch Dog, Tom Clancy games and Assassins Creed all have specific formulas and barely change. It's like they just got lost when trying to make a new one.

It's embarrassing how a supposedly AAA publisher could do this badly. The game will be laughed at whenever it comes out.
Actually its a lot more studios than I imagined. :lol:



This is going to be their biggest flop isn't it? Atleast Mirage seems like it has some improvements over Valhalla even if I don't think it's worth its price. But this game has no redeeming qualities and that naval combat belongs to a mobile game not a AAA game.
 
They're trying to tap into the Black Flag/Sea of Thieves fanbases without actually offering any of the good gameplay elements that either of those games offer. Just another full scale MTX experiment to see what they can get all the brainless saps to pay for next.
Harsh on @esmufc07
 
Nobody likes the Desmond stuff but still AC1 and 2 are the best games in the franchise by miles. Followed by Black Flag and Brotherhood.

There's no way that's true. Just go see the AC sub-reddit. They routinely run polls on this very thing. The "modern" day Desmond stuff is overwhelmingly loved. Desmond himself is much beloved. Pretty much anything involving Desmond from AC1, AC2, Brotherhood, Revelations and possibly AC3, is positively spoken of.

The issue is post-Desmond.

They transitioned into a modern story as you playing as an employee of Abstergo or other similar first person narratives where you didn't have a character. Then it transitioned into Layla Hassan for the RPG open world stuff, and by that time the modern day had lost its focus or momentum.
 
Actually its a lot more studios than I imagined. :lol:



This is going to be their biggest flop isn't it? Atleast Mirage seems like it has some improvements over Valhalla even if I don't think it's worth its price. But this game has no redeeming qualities and that naval combat belongs to a mobile game not a AAA game.


God its sure to be a flop. It's the video game equivalent of that Flash movie. Whatever hype there was for this was around the time Trump first became president and its changed so often since then, no one cares.

Looking at the Wikipedia page for the game, it mentions 7 delays over 5 years, 3 different types of games and over 100 million budget which is hard to imagine.

Though it was nominated for Beat Original Game in the Games Critics Awards and they've mentioned a TV show. :lol:
 
From the reviews I've read and seen, they went back to the pre-Origins formula without actually bothering to improve anything about the gameplay systems that people were already tired of back then. Scaling back is good, reverting to a tired formula is not.
 
From the reviews I've read and seen, they went back to the pre-Origins formula without actually bothering to improve anything about the gameplay systems that people were already tired of back then. Scaling back is good, reverting to a tired formula is not.
Yeah I watched part of a walkthrough and have zero interest in picking this up. I used to love AC. It just got very lazy to me. Same engine, same mechanics, same UI etc etc. Sure this seems to have more stealth elements again but it still looks like if you played Valhalla, Odyssey and Origins at least - that this is more of the same. Maybe Ive lived too long and they just assume they can fool a lot of brand new players (and sadly they re probably not wrong about that).
 
From the reviews I've read and seen, they went back to the pre-Origins formula without actually bothering to improve anything about the gameplay systems that people were already tired of back then. Scaling back is good, reverting to a tired formula is not.
You nailed it. It's a Valhalla DLC. They removed most of the open world contents and scaled it down to a 30-40 hour game without changing much. Re-using animations, no mo-cap for cutscenes and using AI so they look like how cutscenes in Valhalla looked. From what I've seen, people are saying that the story is meh as well.



This bit was cool though. I think this is new?
 
Yeah I watched part of a walkthrough and have zero interest in picking this up. I used to love AC. It just got very lazy to me. Same engine, same mechanics, same UI etc etc. Sure this seems to have more stealth elements again but it still looks like if you played Valhalla, Odyssey and Origins at least - that this is more of the same. Maybe Ive lived too long and they just assume they can fool a lot of brand new players (and sadly they re probably not wrong about that).
Agree with this. It's more of the same which probably some people will like. But they are charging full price for what is essentially supposed to be a DLC so it's less effort and a win for them. They have marketed the hell out of them "returning to their roots" though. Probably better value when it goes on discount. I do like how the game looks but it just doesn't captivate me enough to buy it at full price.
 
I've picked it up, probably start and finish it over the weekend. Not played much ps5 recently so thought this would be good to hop back in with
 
Have they dumped that weird science fiction angle yet? That VR memory thing seemed like such a weird, distracting and unnecessary feature. Or did people like that?
 
Yeah I could understand that view.

My impression at the time was nobody cared that much about the Desmond sections. But it all gets lumped together in nostalgia at how good and focused the stories were in AC1, 2 and Revelations/Brotherhood compared to the collectible driven slop they put out now.

I agree with this, it's an association with the older games that makes the Desmond stuff appealing. The actual sections themselves were tedious mechanically, but they were central to the story being told. And that story was very interesting. I loved the payoff at the end of AC 1 with the whole room covered in glyphs and names of locations that I thought future AC games might be set in.

The issue, as has been said by many before, is that they stopped making Assassins' Creed games and started making shite Witcher ripoffs.
 
This bit was cool though. I think this is new?

I actually hate that. The cool part with Assassins Creed was the parkour and having to plan your assassinations and/or be dynamic and flexible.

Now you just teleport...? Big no, it's utterly unnecessary.
 
Have they dumped that weird science fiction angle yet? That VR memory thing seemed like such a weird, distracting and unnecessary feature. Or did people like that?
I always thought they should have just gone for it and done one that deals with that future stuff by now. At least that would be fresh. Rather than the little hints that go nowhere in the past games. Just here goes the future game whatever we were getting at all these years with the little pieces.

It could be a fresh series really break out of the historical mold.
 
I actually hate that. The cool part with Assassins Creed was the parkour and having to plan your assassinations and/or be dynamic and flexible.

Now you just teleport...? Big no, it's utterly unnecessary.
Probably end game stuff after you unlock all your skills. Just looks cool but if they actually justified the teleport using the story(something similar to how the Ghost stance was in Ghost of Tsushima) then I don't mind. But if they added it just for the heck of it then yea totally unnecessary.
 
I always thought they should have just gone for it and done one that deals with that future stuff by now. At least that would be fresh. Rather than the little hints that go nowhere in the past games. Just here goes the future game whatever we were getting at all these years with the little pieces.

It could be a fresh series really break out of the historical mold.

Agreed.

Or have it that the player's brain gets so fecked that they can't distinguish what is reality and what is modern life so it keeps warping between modern day and historical. So you could be chasing down an alley way in medieval times only to turn the corner to the same spot in the city but its 2135. Then gradually allow the player to control the time change so they can switch between historical and modern with a flick of a button.
 
It could be but they'd just end up remaking Watchdogs.
True. But, that would be the challenge right. What have you been getting at with the future snippets the past what decade? Go for it.

But, I understand the want to just play it a bit safe. This was a Valhalla DLC they made modifications in order to call it a separate game. You don't need to go out on as much of a creative limb with the money a AAA studio puts into these things.

As far as this game, down the line on a sale maybe, but after playing the last what 5 AC entries looking at my library this is a no for now.
 
Have they dumped that weird science fiction angle yet? That VR memory thing seemed like such a weird, distracting and unnecessary feature. Or did people like that?
I always hated that about AC even back when it was a series that usually garnered groans. Felt like such a jarring break in the immersion.
 
Nothing much to report, it’s about what you’d expect I’m enjoying it so far but I tend to like AC games anyway.


I’ll be going for the platinum no doubt.
 
Teleportation on top of x-ray vision. It's like someone at Ubi said, feck it, we'll just activate all cheats at once.
 
Teleportation on top of x-ray vision. It's like someone at Ubi said, feck it, we'll just activate all cheats at once.
I don't actually mind that sort of stuff when they're proper end/post-game abilities (no idea if that's the case here though). Let the player go wild with absurdly overpowered builds, sure, why not.
 
I don't actually mind that sort of stuff when they're proper end/post-game abilities (no idea if that's the case here though). Let the player go wild with absurdly overpowered builds, sure, why not.
I want my assassin to have tactical nuke instead of hidden blade, while we're at it.
 
As long as it's a stealth nuke!
:lol: That's the thing. When you're in stealth, you're just using whistle, and every opponent taking the bait, and when you're done, the pile of bodies is half population of the city.

Now add to that teleportation and x-ray vision... Not even in Watch Dogs you could teleport, while using ridiculous amount of high tech.

Recent AC is stuff of Crysis and Alien vs Predator, when it supposed to be in remote realm of historical period. Ubi should just go full into the futuristic era with overpower excess.
 
:lol: That's the thing. When you're in stealth, you're just using whistle, and every opponent taking the bait, and when you're done, the pile of bodies is half population of the city.

Now add to that teleportation and x-ray vision... Not even in Watch Dogs you could teleport, while using ridiculous amount of high tech.

Recent AC is stuff of Crysis and Alien vs Predator, when it supposed to be in remote realm of historical period. Ubi should just go full into the futuristic era with overpower excess.
I fought a minotaur and cyclopses and traveled to Atlantis in Odyssey, I think it's fair to say any illusion of realism is long gone. :lol:
 
I fought a minotaur and cyclopses and traveled to Atlantis in Odyssey, I think it's fair to say any illusion of realism is long gone. :lol:
This is exactly why newer entries in the series are without any direction and consequences, and the only challenge is amount of clutter stuff to collect around the world.

You can now kill cyclopses, minotaurs, while in AC II which had original dev team working on it, you fought historical Borgia family and Ezio got stabbed while assasinating one of their family members. Borgias fight back, and kill your family members and it takes time to even master more basic stuff. Assassins were not Avengers ffs.

Not even minotaur and cyclops could teleport. It's almost cheating. In next game you'll probably be able to assassinate Godzilla. Best game in the world.
 
I’m not a big fan of Assasins Creed and haven’t played the games since the Ezio series. Although this one looks pretty interesting so will wait and see later down the line if it is worth picking it up when it comes down in price.
 
Is roshans voice annoying anyone else?

Sounds like she smokes 50 a day and gurgles with acid.
 
Is roshans voice annoying anyone else?

Sounds like she smokes 50 a day and gurgles with acid.
Her voice can be an acquired taste but she's actually a pretty celebrated actress: Shohreh Aghdashloo. Chrisjen Avasarala from The Expanse, among (many) other things.
 
Does it matter at all what order I play these in these days?
I have Origins, Odyssey, Valhalla, in what order do people recommend?
 
Enjoying it so far, it is what it is pretty much. Nothing ground breaking, nothing awful, just a steady as you go assassin's creed game.

Not a fan of the wanted type thing they have, seem to get caught everytime you stab someone ffs.