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2018-19 Performances


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Credit where credit is due. He was massive today in the attacking buildup providing an extra passing option all the time and some tidy interplay with the others in the centre.

This still won't absolve him of his poor performances this season.

Loved that backheel to Dalot
 
Very good today. Hopefully the Arsenal performance and this one is the start of a good run for him. Played with a higher tempo today.
 
Two top performance in a row without Pogba. Goes to show when he is not surrounded by a lazy primadonna he can be very effective.
Hardly a surprise that a midfielder looks better when they have an actual partner. It's pretty hard to play in midfield by yourself which it basically is with Pogba there. But of course, no it's all Matic's fault and now when he plays good because he actually has some help like he's meant to have he'll still be called shit by idiots.
 
Hardly a surprise that a midfielder looks better when they have an actual partner. It's pretty hard to play in midfield by yourself which it basically is with Pogba there. But of course, no it's all Matic's fault and now when he plays good because he actually has some help like he's meant to have he'll still be called shit by idiots.

Please, he’s played in a midfield three with Fellaini or Herrera in there as well plenty of times and looked worse than all of them. He was good today, but don’t insult the intelligence of other people by saying he was good all the time and it’s really Pogba’s fault ffs
 
Decent again but as with everybody Fulham gave us as much time as liked on the ball and rarely looked to break against us. Suited him perfectly.
 
Now he has Herrera doing all the running, tackling, intercepting and passing, hes looking a lot better. Funny that.
 
Two top performance in a row without Pogba. Goes to show when he is not surrounded by a lazy primadonna he can be very effective.
And Pogba would probably do the same if he were in there playing with Herrera, for the exact same reason. Matic and Pogba are both large, slow-to-react and slow to get going, and they don't really suit quick pressing. Having one or the other in there is fine as long as we've got enough other players in there pushing up and doing the charging around (Herrera obviously the most important), but both together will never work if we're trying to play that way.
 
And Pogba would probably do the same if he were in there playing with Herrera, for the exact same reason. Matic and Pogba are both large, slow-to-react and slow to get going, and they don't really suit quick pressing. Having one or the other in there is fine as long as we've got enough other players in there pushing up and doing the charging around (Herrera obviously the most important), but both together will never work if we're trying to play that way.

I agree with this. I would play Herrera-Pogba when we are likely to dominate a game. Herrera-Matic-Pogba when we are in for a tough game.
 
Now he has Herrera doing all the running, tackling, intercepting and passing, hes looking a lot better. Funny that.
Just what I said to my friend after the Arsenal game. He can trot about on his half pace while mad dog Herrera huffs and puffs all over.
 
Finally a good performance again, two in a row.. It's as if having a defensive-aware midfield player helps Matic by a damn lot. Not that we don't know already.

Now he has Herrera doing all the running, tackling, intercepting and passing, hes looking a lot better. Funny that.
Even funnier next when Mou will decide to drop Herrera for no good reason, wonder which next game. Won't be the first time.
 
Please, he’s played in a midfield three with Fellaini or Herrera in there as well plenty of times and looked worse than all of them. He was good today, but don’t insult the intelligence of other people by saying he was good all the time and it’s really Pogba’s fault ffs
Did I fecking say he was good all along? Wait no I didn't. Learn to read ffs. I said it's easier to play when you have actual midfield partners. Which it fecking is because Pogba offers feck all to a midfield battle. Fellaini is shit and there is no balance at all in a 3 with them so it's irrelevant. Matic has been poor and no surprise he looks better without Pogba strolling around doing nothing.
 
Two top performance in a row without Pogba. Goes to show when he is not surrounded by a lazy primadonna he can be very effective.

Didn't see the second half(first wasn't top performance by any means), and he was average against Arsenal as it gets. From from some top performances. If his performances were top, what do you say about Herrera's last two performances?
 
It's Herrera's presence, not Pogbas absence, making us look good in the midfield.
 
Just what I said to my friend after the Arsenal game. He can trot about on his half pace while mad dog Herrera huffs and puffs all over.
There was a moment around the 82nd minute where my stream dropped in quality and I saw Herrera slowly ambling around near the halfway line on the right side of the pitch while we were attacking up the left. Figured that even he doesn't have boundless energy and after such a huge workload it was understandable that he was taking it slow for a moment to catch his breath.

Well, I thought it was Herrera as it looked like the number 21 on the back. Then the stream came good again and I realised it was Matic in the number 31, while Herrera was fully involved charging around up the left where we were attacking. :lol:
 
There was a moment around the 82nd minute where my stream dropped in quality and I saw Herrera slowly ambling around near the halfway line on the right side of the pitch while we were attacking up the left. Figured that even he doesn't have boundless energy and after such a huge workload it was understandable that he was taking it slow for a moment to catch his breath.

Well, I thought it was Herrera as it looked like the number 21 on the back. Then the stream came good again and I realised it was Matic in the number 31, while Herrera was fully involved charging around up the left where we were attacking. :lol:
I know exactly what incident you are speaking of. Matic for me one of our biggest culprits this season he looks absolutely shot in terms of workrate. Sadly he also never picks up passes for our runners . But with a energetic workhorse he looks much better.
 
Did I fecking say he was good all along? Wait no I didn't. Learn to read ffs. I said it's easier to play when you have actual midfield partners. Which it fecking is because Pogba offers feck all to a midfield battle. Fellaini is shit and there is no balance at all in a 3 with them so it's irrelevant. Matic has been poor and no surprise he looks better without Pogba strolling around doing nothing.
For the sake of argument, you could turn this around and argue that Pogba is made to look worse because he has to play with someone as slow as Matic too. He's not exactly Vidal in energy. We've known Pogba is not exactly some mobile midfielder. He chips in with the occasional tackle, and he can be the 2nd man behind the main passer. But he's not your primary source for this and seeing as he's been in a midfield 3, I'm not sure why that's a demand. It's his partners who should be providing that and Matic doesn't do that.

When Mou had Mata, he froze Mata out because of workrate right? What's the difference with Pogba when he's in that 3rd midfielder role? And when he's in a 2 man midfield, why play Matic knowing Matic doesn't compliment him? Same with Fellaini who is also slow? Herrera should always be his partner at the very least due to his energy.

I know we like to pretend we've accommodated Pogba, but I've never seen it. I know Juve did.
 
Did I fecking say he was good all along? Wait no I didn't. Learn to read ffs. I said it's easier to play when you have actual midfield partners. Which it fecking is because Pogba offers feck all to a midfield battle. Fellaini is shit and there is no balance at all in a 3 with them so it's irrelevant. Matic has been poor and no surprise he looks better without Pogba strolling around doing nothing.
People have short memories and are easily brainwashed.
 
Played pretty good, as he did last game. We need him if he is going to play regardless, so its good that he is picking up some form now.
 
Did I fecking say he was good all along? Wait no I didn't. Learn to read ffs. I said it's easier to play when you have actual midfield partners. Which it fecking is because Pogba offers feck all to a midfield battle. Fellaini is shit and there is no balance at all in a 3 with them so it's irrelevant. Matic has been poor and no surprise he looks better without Pogba strolling around doing nothing.

then Pogba should play instead of him because at least Pogba was much better than him in the past 12 months.
 
I have absolutely no idea why he plays the full 90 mins when we have a 3 goal advantage against one of the worst teams in the league, give him a rest.
 
Two top performance in a row without Pogba. Goes to show when he is not surrounded by a lazy primadonna he can be very effective.
Top? Herrera is doing his job for him in the DM more like.
 
He’s far too slow. Liverpool’s midfield will just out run him.

If given time like today he can pick a pass. But his legs have gone.
 
Top? Herrera is doing his job for him in the DM more like.

Yep. Matic made 2 tackles and 0 interceptions today. Herrera? 5 tackles and 10 interceptions. One of these players is a world class defensive midfielder, the other is best buddies with our manager.
 
Yep. Matic made 2 tackles and 0 interceptions today. Herrera? 5 tackles and 10 interceptions. One of these players is a world class defensive midfielder, the other is best buddies with our manager.
Just because he's not escorting players to our goal it's seen as top performance . Look how they've lowered the bar for him . I guess it's more an indictment of Matic season if anything
 
I'm BAFFLED people are seeing his last two performances as anything more than acceptable.

Same happened last season. He was praised to the moon for basic shit.

The guy is crap.
 
He was picking up second balls that Herrara masterfully forced out of the opposition all day today. Anyone on this forum could have played his role today and looked decent. I will give him credit for his passing range at times today, pretty impressive.
 
Just because he's not escorting players to our goal it's seen as top performance . Look how they've lowered the bar for him . I guess it's more an indictment of Matic season if anything

Entirely agree with you. Even the he nearly messed things up. Lukaku and Matic should not be the first choice for a club like us.
 
It's both.
You guys really believe Pogba is the cause of our midfield woes?

Never mind we came up against a piss poor Fulham side today. Arsenal was a messy game in which I wish we subbed on Pogba before we ruined our flow with bringing on Fellaini.
 
You guys really believe Pogba is the cause of our midfield woes?

Never mind we came up against a piss poor Fulham side today. Arsenal was a messy game in which I wish we subbed on Pogba before we ruined our flow with bringing on Fellaini.

He's been the difference maker in games when he's bothered. When he's not bothered he's worse than a passenger, like he was against Southampton. His top level is immense, his bottom level is unacceptable.
 
He's been the difference maker in games when he's bothered. When he's not bothered he's worse than a passenger, like he was against Southampton. His top level is immense, his bottom level is unacceptable.
This is fair.
 
It's both.
Agreed. It is definitely both, it interconnects on both ends. It ties into the rhythm and flow of our offence as well as protection for the midfield and defence.

Superb today, trust him much more with the pressing unit of Herrera/Lingard/Mata/Rashford in front of him.
 
He's been the difference maker in games when he's bothered. When he's not bothered he's worse than a passenger, like he was against Southampton. His top level is immense, his bottom level is unacceptable.

The same can be said about Matic. Only skip the first part about being the difference maker
 
The same can be said about Matic. Only skip the first part about being the difference maker

I don't ever see him not try. Sure, he can have really sloppy games, but his attitude is never in question.
 
It's ridiculous how low the bar for Matic is if today was considered "superb"

Herrera was phenomenal in midfield today. Made Matic's job easy.
 
It's ridiculous how low the bar for Matic is if today was considered "superb"

Herrera was phenomenal in midfield today. Made Matic's job easy.

At least he didn't escort any Fulham players to our goal. He did have a couple of good long range passes today. But him and Lukaku was involved in the penalty that was given. He should know that Lukaku under pressure was going to lose it with a Fulham player on him.
 
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