NCAA College Football 2016/17

adexkola

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New season kicked off this weekend.

I thought Wisconsin were going to shit the bed after going behind against LSU. However they came back for an impressive win. They are unranked as well, as compared to LSU ranked at #5.

Michigan will most likely win the Big Ten. As long as OSU hands them a beating I'm OK with that. Alabama will cruise into the SEC championship and playoffs. The Big 12 will miss out on the playoffs again.
 
Awesome game to begin Saturday in Dublin with GT just edging out BC.

I'd say Houston shocked Oklahoma, but Big Game Bob always seems to choke in the crucial games.

Wisconsin played a great game, and Miles always seems to do the least with the most.

Also a great game between UGA and UNC. Kirby Smart hits the ground running with the Bulldogs.

Now GO TIGERS. BEAT AUBURN!
 
Couldn't tackle, couldn't block, couldn't help themselves from knocking over a receiver or a QB when they didn't need to.

It's like OU started out with a whole new coaching staff.
 
Sorry sorry @adexkola. Didn't realise there was a college football thread and I've never seen it before.

Just lay in bed hungover watching earlier, turnovers and upsets galore. Fun.
 
Organic Potatoes said:
Couldn't tackle, couldn't block, couldn't help themselves from knocking over a receiver or a QB when they didn't need to.

It's like OU started out with a whole new coaching staff.
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To be honest, that would probably help you guys out.

Big Game Bob seems to always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in games like that.
 
Notre Dame vs Texas was an awesome game. This long weekend of college football has definitely lived up to the hype.
 
Ramshock said:
ND fan here, not impressed with Kelly and the QB situation. My wife is a Tennessee Vol, they were flat as shit on thursday night.
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My aunt is a Vol. She wasn't happy either.

Notre Dame is the 2nd team I follow behind Clemson. Tony Rice and I are from the same hometown. I feel the same as you. Wish they'd settle on one guy and go with it. I'm not a fan of platooning QBs at all (even if Texas won doing it)
 
Carolina Red said:
My aunt is a Vol. She wasn't happy either.

Notre Dame is the 2nd team I follow behind Clemson. Tony Rice and I are from the same hometown. I feel the same as you. Wish they'd settle on one guy and go with it. I'm not a fan of platooning QBs at all (even if Texas won doing it)
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I think if Kelly had settled on a QB ND would have won that match up but it looks like Texas are on their way back.

I wish I was going to that TN/VT game at Bristol. My in laws are going it should be epic.
 
Ramshock said:
I think if Kelly had settled on a QB ND would have won that match up but it looks like Texas are on their way back.

I wish I was going to that TN/VT game at Bristol. My in laws are going it should be epic.
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Texas can be very dominant again if they go with a spread rushing attack like they did last night.

I think that game might settle the debate for Kelly though at least. To me, Kizer is clearly the better QB despite Zaire being the better athlete.

I don't know if I like the idea of Bristol as a venue. I mean... Sure massive crowd, but they're SO FAR away from the field because of the track.
 
Carolina Red said:
Texas can be very dominant again if they go with a spread rushing attack like they did last night.

I think that game might settle the debate for Kelly though at least. To me, Kizer is clearly the better QB despite Zaire being the better athlete.

I don't know if I like the idea of Bristol as a venue. I mean... Sure massive crowd, but they're SO FAR away from the field because of the track.
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Yeah but I imagine its a one off deal.
 
So.. Bama has now hired Lane Kiffin AND Steve Sarkesian to go along with Nick Saban.

Just saw on ESPN that Sarkesian has been hired by them as an analyst. He won't have contact with players, but will watch film and provide input.
 
I can't wait for FSU vs Clemson.

Carolina Red said:
So.. Bama has now hired Lane Kiffin AND Steve Sarkesian to go along with Nick Saban.

Just saw on ESPN that Sarkesian has been hired by them as an analyst. He won't have contact with players, but will watch film and provide input.
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That must be awkward. Did Kiffin and Sarkesian interact at USC? I don't recall their tenures overlapping.
 
adexkola said:
New season kicked off this weekend.

I thought Wisconsin were going to shit the bed after going behind against LSU. However they came back for an impressive win. They are unranked as well, as compared to LSU ranked at #5.

Michigan will most likely win the Big Ten. As long as OSU hands them a beating I'm OK with that. Alabama will cruise into the SEC championship and playoffs. The Big 12 will miss out on the playoffs again.
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You think Michigan will win the Big 10? I think Ohio State will win it but it could go either way (I'm a Michigan fan). Some other Big 10 teams could have something to say too. Wisconsin with their great win over LSU was impressive. You can't count MSU out these days either.
 
Kind of curious about it. I go to U of Oregon, so obviously root for Ducks but how do people in US support College football? Is it based on hometown or University they go to or the university that is near their place?
Edit: I am an immigrant and hence the question.
 
dustfingers said:
Kind of curious about it. I go to U of Oregon, so obviously root for Ducks but how do people in US support College football? Is it based on hometown or University they go to or the university that is near their place?
Edit: I am an immigrant and hence the question.
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College football (and basketball) is really big in the States as I'm guessing you're finding out. There are many who prefer to follow College football versus the NFL. A lot of people support teams in their own State and not necessarily because they attended that college. In Michigan where I live the two biggest are U of M and Michigan State. There's a fairly even divide of support for either team I would say. Of course the students of the colleges form a large part of the support base too.
 
Nik70 said:
College football (and basketball) is really big in the States as I'm guessing you're finding out. There are many who prefer to follow College football versus the NFL. A lot of people support teams in their own State and not necessarily because they attended that college. In Michigan where I live the two biggest are U of M and Michigan State. There's a fairly even divide of support for either team I would say. Of course the students of the colleges form a large part of the support base too.
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Cheers.
I have lived in States for a while now and kind of figured this out (that college sports are important). A lot of people from as far out as eastern oregon come and tail gate for Ducks game when they are playing which has always been weird for me. Perhaps this is due to the NFL and NBA not having teams from almost all the states. Basketball is not that big over here but that is perhaps because we are not that great in basketball but football, its always Ducks.
 
dustfingers said:
Cheers.
I have lived in States for a while now and kind of figured this out (that college sports are important). A lot of people from as far out as eastern oregon come and tail gate for Ducks game when they are playing which has always been weird for me. Perhaps this is due to the NFL and NBA not having teams from almost all the states. Basketball is not that big over here but that is perhaps because we are not that great in basketball but football, its always Ducks.
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Yep I was amazed when I first came to the States that the University of Michigan could get a 110 000+ crowd every home game. Unbelievable. There is almost no exposure to College sports outside the USA so it's probably surprising to a lot of non US residents.
 
Nik70 said:
You think Michigan will win the Big 10? I think Ohio State will win it but it could go either way (I'm a Michigan fan). Some other Big 10 teams could have something to say too. Wisconsin with their great win over LSU was impressive. You can't count MSU out these days either.
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Yeah, we (OSU) lost a lot of players to the NFL last year. I like our recruiting during the offseason but I get the impression that Michigan has the best talent right now. Having Harbaugh is an immense advantage.
 
adexkola said:
Yeah, we (OSU) lost a lot of players to the NFL last year. I like our recruiting during the offseason but I get the impression that Michigan has the best talent right now. Having Harbaugh is an immense advantage.
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Yeah Harbaugh has been awesome. Urban Meyer is no slouch though.
 
dustfingers said:
Cheers.
I have lived in States for a while now and kind of figured this out (that college sports are important). A lot of people from as far out as eastern oregon come and tail gate for Ducks game when they are playing which has always been weird for me. Perhaps this is due to the NFL and NBA not having teams from almost all the states. Basketball is not that big over here but that is perhaps because we are not that great in basketball but football, its always Ducks.
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Yeah a lot of alumni travel to see their alma mater play as well, especially for the traditional rivalry games. NBA live tickets are a lot more expensive, especially if you're going to every game, so it really caters to a different group. NFL people seem to mostly just watch on TV.
 
Nik70 said:
Yep I was amazed when I first came to the States that the University of Michigan could get a 110 000+ crowd every home game. Unbelievable. There is almost no exposure to College sports outside the USA so it's probably surprising to a lot of non US residents.
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That crowd size is absolutely unbelievable. Is that the Ann Arbor one? It would be interesting to know what started this cultural trend of college football so much more than just college kids game but something folks from that state support wildly. Where I came from only national games would gather such size of crowd.

Akshay said:
Yeah a lot of alumni travel to see their alma mater play as well, especially for the traditional rivalry games. NBA live tickets are a lot more expensive, especially if you're going to every game, so it really caters to a different group. NFL people seem to mostly just watch on TV.
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It's amazing fun to go to NFL games, someway felt much more better than soccer games that happen here. Having been to Portland trail blazers, Portland timbers, Seattle Seahawks games over past year, atmosphere of Oregon Ducks is something unbelievable though. It is just so loud and crazy. Seahawks were amazing to see as well. They were so so better than any college football team which is to be expected but still was a nice experience seeing a good team play.
Back on topic, which team are you rooting for?
 
dustfingers said:
That crowd size is absolutely unbelievable. Is that the Ann Arbor one? It would be interesting to know what started this cultural trend of college football so much more than just college kids game but something folks from that state support wildly. Where I came from only national games would gather such size of crowd.

It's amazing fun to go to NFL games, someway felt much more better than soccer games that happen here. Having been to Portland trail blazers, Portland timbers, Seattle Seahawks games over past year, atmosphere of Oregon Ducks is something unbelievable though. It is just so loud and crazy. Seahawks were amazing to see as well. They were so so better than any college football team which is to be expected but still was a nice experience seeing a good team play.
Back on topic, which team are you rooting for?
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I'll be rooting for my California Golden Bears even though I expect we will be mediocre to awful as usual :lol:. Sadly our demise has coincided with the rise of Stanford so we tend to lose the Big Game too. Ah well.
 
dustfingers said:
That crowd size is absolutely unbelievable. Is that the Ann Arbor one? It would be interesting to know what started this cultural trend of college football so much more than just college kids game but something folks from that state support wildly. Where I came from only national games would gather such size of crowd.
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Yes Ann Arbor - the 'Big House'. That's where United played Real Madrid in pre-season a couple of years ago.
 
dustfingers said:
That crowd size is absolutely unbelievable. Is that the Ann Arbor one? It would be interesting to know what started this cultural trend of college football so much more than just college kids game but something folks from that state support wildly. Where I came from only national games would gather such size of crowd.
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It's crazy to compare the stadium sizes for college football teams to professional and national team soccer stadiums in Europe.

Old Trafford wouldn't even make the top 20 college football stadiums.
 
Akshay said:
I'll be rooting for my California Golden Bears even though I expect we will be mediocre to awful as usual :lol:. Sadly our demise has coincided with the rise of Stanford so we tend to lose the Big Game too. Ah well.
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Yeah Stanford are pretty strong these days.

Nik70 said:
Yes Ann Arbor - the 'Big House'. That's where United played Real Madrid in pre-season a couple of years ago.
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How good are Michigan this year, National Champion competitive good?

Carolina Red said:
It's crazy to compare the stadium sizes for college football teams to professional and national team soccer stadiums in Europe.

Old Trafford wouldn't even make the top 20 college football stadiums.
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Of course it wouldn't. I am not comparing them.
 
dustfingers said:
Of course it wouldn't. I am not comparing them.
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I think you misunderstood me there. I'm not saying you did. I'm saying that should you compare the two it gives you a sense of "wow, that's crazy" when you see how the biggest stadiums in Europe are made to look small by college stadiums here.
 
Akshay said:
Yeah a lot of alumni travel to see their alma mater play as well, especially for the traditional rivalry games. NBA live tickets are a lot more expensive, especially if you're going to every game, so it really caters to a different group. NFL people seem to mostly just watch on TV.
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Watched this news report on alumni who come back to every home game of their University, some flying in on their private planes. I think it was outside South Bend or maybe near University of Nebraska, they showed this small airfield with dozens of private planes/jets parked along the tarmac. The guy who ran the place said it was like this every home game. Friday night/Saturday morning all the planes coming with limos or hired cars waiting to pick the occupants up and whisk them away to the game. A few guys actually have fancy RV's they store at the airfield and use them to drive to the stadium and tailgate. They have some local person they have hired to make sure they are gassed up, stocked with food and drink. They fly in Friday night, drive to the stadium, stay the night in the RV go to the game Saturday. Stay the night at the stadium again, fly out Sunday morning.
 
Carolina Red said:
I think you misunderstood me there. I'm not saying you did. I'm saying that should you compare the two it gives you a sense of "wow, that's crazy" when you see how the biggest stadiums in Europe are made to look small by college stadiums here.
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Out of curiosity, is that due to stadium size alone or also because of different seating arrangements? For example at Cal's Memorial Stadium the student section is just rows of benches and mostly everyone stands. The capacity has also reduced by about 20,000 over the years due to introduction of more and more 'proper seating'.

JustAFan said:
Watched this news report on alumni who come back to every home game of their University, some flying in on their private planes. I think it was outside South Bend or maybe near University of Nebraska, they showed this small airfield with dozens of private planes/jets parked along the tarmac. The guy who ran the place said it was like this every home game. Friday night/Saturday morning all the planes coming with limos or hired cars waiting to pick the occupants up and whisk them away to the game. A few guys actually have fancy RV's they store at the airfield and use them to drive to the stadium and tailgate. They have some local person they have hired to make sure they are gassed up, stocked with food and drink. They fly in Friday night, drive to the stadium, stay the night in the RV go to the game Saturday. Stay the night at the stadium again, fly out Sunday morning.
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That's pretty awesome! Lot of commitment and passion in college football.
 
Akshay said:
Out of curiosity, is that due to stadium size alone or also because of different seating arrangements? For example at Cal's Memorial Stadium the student section is just rows of benches and mostly everyone stands. The capacity has also reduced by about 20,000 over the years due to introduction of more and more 'proper seating'.
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It's not due to seating arrangements. Hell, we can put more more people in the seats for a pre-season scrimmage between the 2-deep on the depth chart than most London derby's.

The best analogy I can make is the NFL is like the CL and college football is like some South American derby. If I had to choose between an NFL or a college football game, it'd be college 9/10 times.
 
Akshay said:
Out of curiosity, is that due to stadium size alone or also because of different seating arrangements? For example at Cal's Memorial Stadium the student section is just rows of benches and mostly everyone stands. The capacity has also reduced by about 20,000 over the years due to introduction of more and more 'proper seating'.
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I'd say it is a mix of both. Almost all college football stadiums I've been to have the bench seating for 90% of their seats with proper seats only available for high priced seating in special areas. But still, the major stadiums around the country are something to behold just from a physical size standpoint. When they were built they didn't really have to worry about fitting into the footprint of a city like many European football club stadiums did.

Edit: to add to what @JustAFan was saying about tailgating... On home game Saturday's, Clemson, SC becomes the "3rd largest city in SC" due to all the people who come there to see the game and to tailgate.
 
dustfingers said:
How good are Michigan this year, National Champion competitive good?
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Harbaugh has done a great job in such a short time but I don't think they're that good yet. Maybe in a couple of years once all his recruits have established themselves in the team. Personally I think Ohio State are still a better team (as much as it pains me to say it).
 
Nik70 said:
Harbaugh has done a great job in such a short time but I don't think they're that good yet. Maybe in a couple of years once all his recruits have established themselves in the team. Personally I think Ohio State are still a better team (as much as it pains me to say it).
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tOSU is more talented, but maybe the maize and blue will get that 2nd year bump we've seen before with new coaches. Happened several times before in the past ~15 or so years it seems, starting with (of course) OU in 2000.
 
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