Why is Vince even on the list though
NBA 2019-2020
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How is Russ even amongst those?
West, Jordan, Bird, Russell, O'Neal
MJ-O'Neal-Bird-Durant -Stockton
It's a trash list but put this five against anything
Stockton
Jordan
LeBron
Durant
Duncan
Stockton
Jordan
LeBron
Durant
Duncan
James - Durant - Chamberlain - Jordan - Stockton
8x All-Star and delivered the GOAT Slam Dunk Contest performance?
Seems like some people just don't even bother to read the tweet - it clearly states all-time All-Star squad, not in general.
Other than his dunk contest, his performance in the All Stars arent even that important.
Man you really must be self conscious Bud cause no one even mentioned your name.
Nice to see ya!
That’s a really solid team as well! I just could not have not put a prime Shaq on my team. For me personally he has to be the starting center in any all time lineup or if available in this kind of points set up
But James, KD, and Jordan!! Uuuf!
Duncan, MJ, Sir Charles, Erving, Stockton
GOAT is back 
I hope the contests are better than last year, they were dreadful last season.
Stockton, MJ, KD, TD, Hakeem
Chadwick Bossman ???
Am I the only one who thinks this is weird? For a franchise as storied as the Celtics, seems a bit over the top to retire Garnett's jersey. He was there for only six years and one ring.
What's even more crazy is that his number isn't retired for the Wolves when he leads them in pretty much every category that matters. I know he doesn't get along with their owner but that's just ridiculous.
I agree. As influential as KG was, retiring his number for 6 seasons of service is insane.
Diallo's dunk was great. Over Shaq, in the superman suit, with the Vince Carter finish. The rest sucked. DSJ and Collins were awful.
The Clippers losing again and us beating the Nuggets on Wednesday has given us a nice buffer for the #1 seed, would be disappointing to not finish first at this point.
I also really hope that the Grizzlies overtake Dallas and/or OKC - a 1st round series between them and the Clippers has the potential to be really good.
I also really hope that the Grizzlies overtake Dallas and/or OKC - a 1st round series between them and the Clippers has the potential to be really good.
KG deserves this kind of respect tbh.
That is not comprehensible for me. Are they desperate?
From the Wolves, absolutely. The C's are probably the second most illustrious franchise in NBA history, it's just weird to retire a jersey from someone who I doubt is even considered as a Celtics legend by most fans. Why Garnett and not Allen for example?
Actually, wanted to say that it would be equally weird for the Heat to retire Bosh' jersey but seems that they did
And they even retired Shaq's jersey as well. I think jersey retirements should be reserved for team legends, not for all-time great players who played for the team for a (small) part of his career. O'Neil will forever be mentioned in the same breath as the Lakers, not the Heat. Even if James wins one or two rings with the Lakers, I wouldn' want to see his number retired. It should be at Cleveland, and not even Miami imo but they'll certainly do so if they retired Bosh' jersey as well.I think they retire jerseys of HoF who win a ring or more, and KG is really loved by their fans, I too believe it should be wolves but I'm happy for KG at the same time.From the Wolves, absolutely. The C's are probably the second most illustrious franchise in NBA history, it's just weird to retire a jersey from someone who I doubt is even considered as a Celtics legend by most fans. Why Garnett and not Allen for example?
Actually, wanted to say that it would be equally weird for the Heat to retire Bosh' jersey but seems that they did
The Celtics pretty much retire anyone important to their championship wins.
They're still salty about Allen otherwise they'll have retired his as well.
The Heats are a young franchise that Bosh and Shaq are probably the best players at their position in their history....From the Wolves, absolutely. The C's are probably the second most illustrious franchise in NBA history, it's just weird to retire a jersey from someone who I doubt is even considered as a Celtics legend by most fans. Why Garnett and not Allen for example?
Actually, wanted to say that it would be equally weird for the Heat to retire Bosh' jersey but seems that they did
I consider Mourning a bigger Heat legend than both of them though.
I get that they're a relatively young franchise but what difference does that make? Just saw that the Grizzlies (started in '95) have retired the jerseys of Tony Allen and Z-Bo, I mean come on
Retired jerseys should be players you can tell your grandchildren about for hours, not "he made some All-Defensive teams for a few years in a row while he was here". That's just my take on retiring jerseys though, obviously.Ok, we seriously have very differing views since you don't think being a crucial part of a team that won championships is good enough to get their jersey retired for a team that has basically feck all history other than those few players.I consider Mourning a bigger Heat legend than both of them though.
I get that they're a relatively young franchise but what difference does that make? Just saw that the Grizzlies (started in '95) have retired the jerseys of Tony Allen and Z-Bo, I mean come on
Who can effectively guard Zion Williamson? He is going to wreck the NBA for as long as he is healthy.
*One championship, thanks to D-Wade. Who is the kind of player that deserves to have his jersey retired by the Heat.
What I'm saying is, it's not something to be ashamed of that you don't have that much history if you're a "new" franchise. Don't try to create a history by retiring jerseys of average players. If you look at the Lakers jerseys which are retired, they're players who'll forever be associated with the Lakers and most of them actually shaped the franchise into what it is now. I could be wrong, but I'm willing to bet a lot that people won't say that about Z-Bo and Tony Allen if they talk about the Grizzlies in a few decades. To go back to the Lakers - Gasol and Fisher were instrumental in our last two championships but I wouldn't want to see their jerseys retired.
I guess it boils down to the question whether you wanna reserve that special right for the greatest players, or also give it to very good players who were great for a shorter period of time, and I lean towards the former because I think it's an absolute honour to see a franchise retire your jersey. Same could be said about the HOF debate in the NBA and NFL.
I consider Mourning a bigger Heat legend than both of them though.
I get that they're a relatively young franchise but what difference does that make? Just saw that the Grizzlies (started in '95) have retired the jerseys of Tony Allen and Z-Bo, I mean come on
Oi.
So generally I'm not a fan of retiring jerseys for anyone. Not even Kobe or Jordan. Imagine us retiring the 7 jersey after Best instead of seeing successive legends wear it.
If you're not a Grizzlies fan you just won't understand why Z-Bo and TA mean so much to the city.
There are 101 numbers you can wear in basketball. It's fine to retire them whenever you like to be fair.
I don't no, so fair enough if there were non-basketball reasons to do so, no problems with that. But strictly from a basketball POV, just not for me.
Non-basketball reasons should also be taken into account though by the way, most definitely.
I agree with this. I think retiring jerseys is more of an American sports tradition though. But it should really be reserved for the best of the best of the best (Jordan, Grezy, etc.).
And I'm getting the sense you're not actually an Arsenal fan...
This. It's why Nick Collison had his jersey retired by OKC. The contribution goes beyond wins.
Don't know one NBA fan who didn't respect Nick. Did he join while y'all were still in Seattle?
Buddy winning that 3 point contest with the last shot, beating Booker's 26. Great stuff from both.
Was actually a really good 3 point contest.
Howard and Gordon should be good.
Think Gordan will win it but I hope Howard does.