NASA to today announce 'major discovery' from Mars exploration

I wonder if the ad-bot is trying to tell me I need to bulk up, given the fact we're discussing big strong bastards.



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But seriously, incredible discovery. When I was watching this on the news earlier it felt like one of those moments I might remember for the rest of my life. Depending on how this plays out in the future of course.
 
The scale of the universe can feck right off.
 
I really need to catch up on my astronomy. Used to love this stuff when I was 16 and living in the states but 21 years later I seemed to have forgotten it all, plus had no idea about this stuff probably when I was learning the basics.

Cheers buddy, will try reading up some more about this stuff
 
Is that poster for real? Feck me if it is.

Of course it's real, atleast in terms of what we know so far. Just consider these little bits :

1. The sun is almost 150,000,000,000 meters from Earth. The light from the sun takes abut 490 seconds to reach us, the observable universe is 91,000,000,000 light years in diameter. That's 91,000,000,000 x 31,556,926 x 300,000,000 meters.

2. Little Boy released 6.3×10^13 J upon detonation, and killed over 100,000 people in Hiroshima. The entire earth consumed 5x10^20 J of energy in 2010. The sun releases 3.8×10^26 J of energy in a second. That's almost as much as 5000000000000 Little Boys in one second. Average supernovae produce 1×10^44 J, hypernovae 1×10^46 J, the total energy potential within just the Milky Way Galaxy is 4×10^58 J, that's like a thousand million million million million million million, or a quattuordecillion Little Boys, just within our galaxy.

3. Our sun is a very basic star, and an average galaxy has over 100 billion stars, and the observable universe has an estimated 100 billion galaxies, that's a million billion billion sun like objects.

It's crazy that astronomy and space exploration doesn't get enough credit, and space agencies face budgeting concerns when there's sooo much more we have to learn before one of these wipes us out entirely :

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Of course it's real, atleast in terms of what we know so far. Just consider these little bits :

1. The sun is almost 150,000,000,000 meters from Earth. The light from the sun takes abut 490 seconds to reach us, the observable universe is 91,000,000,000 light years in diameter. That's 91,000,000,000 x 31,556,926 x 300,000,000 meters.

2. Little Boy released 6.3×10^13 J upon detonation, and killed over 100,000 people in Hiroshima. The entire earth consumed 5x10^20 J of energy in 2010. The sun releases 3.8×10^26 J of energy in a second. That's almost as much as 5000000000000 Little Boys in one second. Average supernovae produce 1×10^44 J, hypernovae 1×10^46 J, the total energy potential within just the Milky Way Galaxy is 4×10^58 J, that's like a thousand million million million million million million, or a quattuordecillion Little Boys, just within our galaxy.

3. Our sun is a very basic star, and an average galaxy has over 100 billion stars, and the observable universe has an estimated 100 billion galaxies, that's a million billion billion sun like objects.

It's crazy that astronomy and space exploration doesn't get enough credit, and space agencies face budgeting concerns when there's sooo much more we have to learn before one of these wipes us out entirely :

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I'm a financial analyst and my mind is hurting trying to the maths you've just thrown at me ( in terms of visualising the distances, power etc etc)

Honestly had no clue the sun was that small compared to things we've discovered when I stopped learning it 20 years ago

Brilliant stats though fellas
 
Indeed.
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Still waiting for Belteguese to go supernova. It would be grand if it happens in our life time (assuming that there aren't aliens who would get destroyed in process).

Randall probably thinks that Science is a conspiracy and there is no point in it.
 
I see those billions of dollars are still being well spent

Good ol NASA, the most pointless company on the planet

Wow, you're dead wrong on that one mate. People were saying CERN was a waste of money too and as a by-product it gave us this little thing called the internet. Scientific exploration is of the utmost importance.
 
It's crazy that astronomy and space exploration doesn't get enough credit, and space agencies face budgeting concerns when there's sooo much more we have to learn before one of these wipes us out entirely :

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And the only chance for humanity to actually survive is by expanding into other parts of the galaxy.

On another note, read a few weeks ago that one of these massive bellends is actually a few billions light years on size. Just imagine that. Thousands of times 'taller' than our galaxy.

NB: VY Canis Majoris isn't anymore the biggest star we've discovered.
 
How the feck did the universe come to existence? What was before the Big Bang ? And how did that what was before the Big Bang come to existence? And the things before that? Mind-boggling stuff.
 
Still waiting for Belteguese to go supernova. It would be grand if it happens in our life time (assuming that there aren't aliens who would get destroyed in process).

Randall probably thinks that Science is a conspiracy and there is no point in it.

To be fair, maybe it's already gone supernova, and we just don't know it yet. And yeah, there's a general attitude of being wary of, and outwardly reject astronomy or any 'science stuff'. Hopefully that'll change in the coming generations when human sustainability on earth might be at its brink. Perhaps this will be of interest to some :

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So there's a giant cloud hanging out in the Milky Way galaxy that smells a little bit like rum and tastes a little bit like raspberries. Here's why Sagittarius B2 may be the most delicious cloud in space.

Let's work our way up the ladder on this one. We'll start at the bottom step, where things are unimaginably tiny. A carboxyl group is a group of atoms that looks like this: (C(O)OH). A carboxylic acid is any acid that has a carboxyl group. Glue one single extra atom of hydrogen on that group and you have formic acid, the most simple carboxylic acid. In fact, this acid is so basic that ants' bodies can make it. If you have ever been stung or sprayed with ant venom, you have probably felt the sting of formic acid.

Let's take another step up the ladder and add booze. Mix ethanol with formic acid and you have ethyl formate, which is an ester. Esters are the most famous of the aroma compounds and are responsible for most of the floral, fruit, and wine smells. A good proportion of esters are simply combinations of carboxylic acids and alcohols. To non-chemists who nevertheless paid attention in chemistry class, esters are known as the "smell molecules."

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Ethyl formate has a role to play in both fruit and wine. Drinkers know it as the "scent of rum," but it comes wafting out of a lot of alcohols from cognac to whisky. Berry pickers will also know ethyl formate if they get their mouth around it; it's one of the chemicals that gives raspberries their distinctive flavor. So smell it and it smells vaguely of rum; taste it and it tastes vaguely of raspberries.

When we examine ethyl formate on an even larger scale, we get the weird twist — way out in space, a cloud of gas is laden with ethyl formate, which means it smells like rum and tastes like berries.

Or perhaps we have this all the wrong away around. Perhaps we should have started large instead of small, because Sagittarius B2, the dust cloud 400 light-years away from the center of the galaxy, predates both the raspberry and rum. So maybe we should say that rum smells of cosmic dust cloud, and raspberries taste of it.

http://io9.com/this-space-cloud-smells-like-rum-and-tastes-like-raspbe-1695890013


And the only chance for humanity to actually survive is by expanding into other parts of the galaxy.

On another note, read a few weeks ago that one of these massive bellends is actually a few billions light years on size. Just imagine that. Thousands of times 'taller' than our galaxy.

NB: VY Canis Majoris isn't anymore the biggest star we've discovered.

Yep, it's scary. There's a theory that suggests periodic gamma ray bursts cause mass extinctions on earth, another one suggests that plasma from intersetllar clouds scorches earth every time the heliosphere wobbles.

PS : Yep, last I heard it was UY Scuti? Hard to know though, the accuracy leaves much to be desired.
 
when you realize and accept we are not real, the size of things are not so shocking or scary anymore.

quantum mechanics have demonstrated we are nothing more than an illusion, so personally i'm much more interested in finding out whats outside our simulation, instead of whats inside of it.
 
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when you realize and accept we are not real (Cogito ergo sum), the size of things are not so shocking or scary anymore.

quantum mechanics have demonstrated we are nothing more than an illusion, so personally i'm much more interested in finding out whats outside our simulation, instead of whats inside of it.

Quoting Descartes and/in Latin doesn't actually prove what you go onto say which at best can only be described as.... maybe, sort of, what, no.
 
Quoting Descartes and/in Latin doesn't actually prove what you go onto say which at best can only be described as.... maybe, sort of, what, no.

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i quoted the wrong ***********, lol

Quantum experiments prove what i'm talking about.
 
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Randall Flagg :lol:

We wouldn't have the fecking wheel if people like him had their way, much less everything else we take for granted.

And George, quantum mechanics does nothing of the sort. Have you been listening to Depak Chopra or something? (sorry, that's terribly insulting, but he is one of the most famous proponents of that sort of thinking)
 
Quantum experiments prove what i'm talking about.

No, it doesn't prove anything. Human understanding of quantum mechanics isn't sufficiently advanced enough to interpret, and especially prove it conclusively. Mere observation, holographic principle, and hypothesis ≠ theory. That's some Thomas McFarlane level sensationalist, philosophical mumbo jumbo.
 
when you realize and accept we are not real (Cogito ergo sum), the size of things are not so shocking or scary anymore.

I'm reasonably certain that Descarts' 'I think therefore I am' was a statement made against the philosophical quandary of solipsism. He was arguing that we do exist by virtue of having thought (Cogito ergo sum).
 
when you realize and accept we are not real (Cogito ergo sum), the size of things are not so shocking or scary anymore.

quantum mechanics have demonstrated we are nothing more than an illusion, so personally i'm much more interested in finding out whats outside our simulation, instead of whats inside of it.

Well put.

We can't undrstand infinity because we think of something infinitely big instead if infinitely small.
 
Randall Flagg :lol:

We wouldn't have the fecking wheel if people like him had their way, much less everything else we take for granted.

And George, quantum mechanics does nothing of the sort. Have you been listening to Depak Chopra or something? (sorry, that's terribly insulting, but he is one of the most famous proponents of that sort of thinking)

Not familiar with Depak Chopra (heard the name before...) but if you take 50 minutes to watch this video while being open minded, you will be much closer to understanding where I'm coming from.

its not a new age era video or about religious stuff... purely science
 
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Not familiar with Depak Chopra (heard the name before...) but if you take 50 minutes to watch this video while being open minded, you will be much closer to understanding where I'm coming from.

its not a new age era video or about religious stuff... purely science


He's not worth familiarising yourself with, really. The man's a mumbo-jumbo merchant of the worst sort. He's educated in medicine, mainly endocrinology, but sees it fit to argue with theoretical physicists who have gripes with his usage of quantum notation, despite being well out of his element.

I'll check your video when I get the time :)
 
when you realize and accept we are not real (Cogito ergo sum), the size of things are not so shocking or scary anymore.

quantum mechanics have demonstrated we are nothing more than an illusion, so personally i'm much more interested in finding out whats outside our simulation, instead of whats inside of it.
If we were living in a simulation, what makes you think we even have the ability to see outside it?
 
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