He should never have been benched for Valencia on the right wing for the last 2 years period. The fact he was top of the premier league assist charts apart from Silva shows his worth to the team.
Nani | Contract & Transfer talk
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Nani will not feature in Van Gaal's plans. He takes risks and loses ball. What else would LVG need to bench a player?
Allegedly something to do with his family.
'It was a goal like any other,' he told reporters. 'I received the ball, saw the goal, shot and I was lucky.'
'I thought about myself and everything that I have gone through,' added Nani, who was born in Cape Verde and had a tough upbringing in Lisbon after his family emigrated to Portugal. 'It's personal stuff, that nobody knows about.'
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Always good to see a footballer enjoying his football again. It's a job after all and not everyone enjoy it. Ask David Bentley.
I don't think he has a future here, unfortunately. Ironically, he would be the closest thing to the Robben who carried LvG's Dutch side in the World Cup that we're likely to find though. He lacks the consistency, but he's an outrageous dribbler, much like Robben. Especially the ability to pass a man from a stand still is something that we're sorely lacking.
Most of the players in our team who are capable of passing a man require pace on the ball in order to do so. The skill and body control required to do the feints / step-overs / other trickery to get past a man at a stand still is a far rarer ability, and one which Nani has always brought to the team.
Most of the players in our team who are capable of passing a man require pace on the ball in order to do so. The skill and body control required to do the feints / step-overs / other trickery to get past a man at a stand still is a far rarer ability, and one which Nani has always brought to the team.
Is he still as fast as he once was? He was electric at his very best.
I'm guessing you haven't been watching our number 7 this season?
And there was me thinking the tears were because one of the other players told him he would be back at United after that goal.
I'd love for him to come back as he's been one of my favourite United players over the past few years but I'm not sure how he'd fit into the 'philosophy'. Plus I think he's at his best when he's playing regularly, if he was in and out of the team (which is quite possible) I could see him struggling to make an impact. He'd still be a brilliant option to have though.
I'd love for him to come back as he's been one of my favourite United players over the past few years but I'm not sure how he'd fit into the 'philosophy'. Plus I think he's at his best when he's playing regularly, if he was in and out of the team (which is quite possible) I could see him struggling to make an impact. He'd still be a brilliant option to have though.
You mean record -breaking marquee signing ?
Do you believe Di Maria plays on merit?
Considering he creates most of our chances even when he plays poorly yes.
On the consistency thing, the moment someone gives me an example of one of our attacking players who has been consistent in the last 5 years is the moment I'll accept that stupid stigma.
P.S consistently shit doesn't count.
P.S consistently shit doesn't count.
Everyone should remember the type of atmosphere he was playing in last season, being booed off the pitch when coming off and on by his own fans when players with a third of his ability got away with murder, I dont blame him if he wants to go somewhere he is loved
Happy he's doing well.
Bingo. You can just picture it. Nani has just tried his third long range shot at goal, the crowd get on his back again for it and then LvG subs him off for wasting possession and you don't see him again for a while.
He's the only one attempting to create chances and thats not a coincidence. If it wasn't part of team tactics he'd be benched
Not so sure, and benched for who? Hes not been at his best but I don't see who would come off the bench and be better.
Regardless of whether or not hes playing at his best, he has been a threat in most matches which is more than can be said for some.
EDIT: When he was injured and not playing we clearly lacked pace and anyone else creating much chances.
My point is that for some reason everyone else is expected to pass the ball sideways and keep it. You can see it from the way Rooney, Mata and Ander who have all shown they are good at playing people through with key passes, have almost completely stopped ever trying them. But when Di Maria gets on the ball he cant be more eager to try something risky like a deep ball into the box that we rarely win.
It very much looks as though Di Maria is given license to do whatever he wants, while the rest of the team will get dropped if they dont try to keep the ball as much as possible.
I don't think it's simply his consistency, it's the fact that his form is so wild.
If we were to give markings out of 10, an average 5 games for Nani would probably look like; 8, 6, 9, 4, 5. Just an example to get the point across, and with Di Maria looking like a similar kind of player it'd be surprising to see risk averse van Gaal play both.
Yeah I have noticed that a little, its a problem, and until that stops we won't see the best from the team or Di Maria for that matter. Dropping him isn't that answer. The manager restricting the other players (if that is what is happening) is what needs to change. You can't put all the creative pressue on one player, his and the teams performances will regress.
What like Rooney?
Fair enough. Although I could never see us leaving out a player that has costed us nearly 60M, unless we sell him.
If Rooney is played as a striker or a #10 he will almost certainly guarantee you a goal or an assist per game, so there's that security net. Besides, if Rooney is as wild in his form as you purport, then there's definitely no way Nani will be implemented with two of van Gaal's current starters being sporadic in form.
Yeah I wasnt suggesting dropping him, I just meant that its a bit of an uneven contest about him creating the most even when we play poorly because our midfielders seem to be having creativity coached out of them.
And I meant that if Di Maria isn't being given license by the management to do whatever he wants, and really he's supposed to be keeping the ball like everyone else, then the manger would obviously drop him. But he isnt being left out so Di Maria must be doing what the manager wants for the most part. He just has a special role
Noticed that as well, shocking play. He could easily have got a challenge in or put Nani off but slowed down, pretty much stepping back to watch him shoot
Again with that space prem crap logic. I mean that was a wonder goal, regardless of space, marking or whatever you call it. As if you don´t see this kind of wonder goals even in top leagues. It was an indefensable shot and although the defender could have done better (since they were losing Gil Vicente was much more attack oriented) it's the kind of goals it's hard to talk about anything else but the spectacular execution. No one expected that. If you want to talk about a shocking play, what about Arsenal's defending in Nani's arguably best goal ever? Wasn´t it in the Prem best league ever tm?
I mean shocking, you don't get that kind of space in the Prem
I mean shocking, you don't get that kind of space in the Prem
If Nani had applied himself he would be in the top 10 players bracket imo. I dont think he can come back nor should. He would be better off somewhere in the sun.
He wont want two then will he?
I'm not confusing. The goal i was talking about was dribble slalom against Arsenal with Nani in what concerns shocking defending. The second goal is against Spurs and shows the same ammount of space given to Nani in a top league. Obviously the Premier League is 1000x superior league compared to the portuguese league but my point here is about the brilliance of Nani's goal regardless of space or defending.
ok it is a bit confusing because of the video
i agree with what you are saying. he has shown repeatedly that he can produce at any level if the trust is posed in him
That's not the point, he takes risk and loses the just like Nani does
i know what the point is.
Di Maria play's despite losing the ball and taking the risks.
It seems other players are not allowed to do that. Herrera for that instance was claimed the be frozen out for the exact reason.
Rooney was too tbh
In 4-3-3 with an extra strong CM added to the midfield he could be great for us again, bringing Nani back and adding Depay to Di Maria and Januzaj would give us 4 options for the 2 wide forward roles.
I think the harsh treatment from the crowd comes from the fact he dives and fakes injuries. Add that to being selfish at times and losing the ball in bad areas.
But I have always thought you take the good with the bad. Nani is unstoppable when in the mood.
But I have always thought you take the good with the bad. Nani is unstoppable when in the mood.
I may be wrong, and quite often am, but didn't he get booed for taking his time going off when we were chasing the game? Not for being Nani.
Rather he sent him on loan to secure Rojo.
This. I'm happy he's found his form in Portugal.
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