MUTV viewers top 18 million

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There was a small article in the Sunday Express today about MUTV having audience figures of 18 million worldwide.

According to this article (I read it in my local sport centre so I am paraphrasing), MUTV has about 100,000 subscribers in the UK. Another 2 million viewers in Malaysia and Indonesia and 4 million across Japan and Scandanavia. The article didn't explain where the other 12 million are so I would assume across the remaining countries.

The articles also said that MUTV is one of the main reason Glazer wants Man United.
 
It was just a small article. Sadly, neither the journalist or his editor felt that this was a juicy-enough article to full expand on.

If the '18 million' viewers are anywhere correct and the only way anyone can view them is through membership then indeed, that's a hell of lot of readies.
 
Rubbish, there is no way there are 18million subscribers to MUTV

180,000 more like. Maybe 1.8million.
 
very Ruud said:
And cos of that he wants to spend >£800m on buying us.

Can it really be worth it?
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Not really.

He's 76. He'll be long gone by the time he sees any sort of profit.

But he wont get hold of the club anyway.
 
Number7 said:
Not really.

He's 76. He'll be long gone by the time he sees any sort of profit.

But he wont get hold of the club anyway.
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I think its Bollox that he only wants to buy us cos of MUTV...
 
Number7 said:
Rubbish, there is no way there are 18million subscribers to MUTV

180,000 more like. Maybe 1.8million.
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Well, you could be right - about it being rubbish. But you've just plucked figures out of the air yourself.

The 100,000 subscribers they said MUTV has in UK seem realistic. After all subcription to MUTV isn't that expensive.

I can understand subscriptions being higher in Far Eastern countries as TV is the only way they can get to see their favourite football club. The subscription would be higher so, there could be more than a grain of truth to the story.

The other thing you have to bear in mind is that charges to MUTV worldwide will vary dependant on the value of regional currency. Eg, In Middle-Eastern countries it will be dearer, while in India it will be relatively cheaper eg a couple hundred rupees a month which would work out as about £1 per month.

I wonder if any Redcafe or SU member has access to MUTV annual report and could bear these figures out.
 
Number7 said:
TBH I thought MUTV was only available in this country.
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I have it, not the "full" version though. A channel here are showing shows from both MUTV and Chelsea TV.
 
Richter said:
I have it, not the "full" version though. A channel here are showing shows from both MUTV and Chelsea TV.
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So you have Viasat...

Canal Digital has the full version...
 
Actually, anyone who owns share in Manchester United should receive a copy of their annual report/review. The fact and figures would be in there - number of subcribers and what the club make out of it.

If anyone out there has a copy it would be appreciated if you could dig them out.
 
very Ruud said:
So you have Viasat...

Canal Digital has the full version...
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I have both Viasat and Canal Digital. Canal Digital didn't want MUTV anymore so Viasat took over :(
 
Richter said:
I have both Viasat and Canal Digital. Canal Digital didn't want MUTV anymore so Viasat took over :(
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:eek: Is that true... :mad:


So its impossible to get the full version now?
 
It will have 18 million viewers, alot of countries get it for free, only in UK and some others where you have to pay for it....
 
Stobzilla said:
It must be bringing in quite a lot of revenue then.
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Around a year ago there was an article about why we don't have one and it said that both Man utd's and Chelsea's channels were losing money hence why we didn't have one so I doubt it is making much money.
 
I suppose the 18,000,000 stat is believable when you look at it in the context of a few percent of the Chinese poulation being United supporters. As pointed out, I'ts highly unlikely that they all pay a subscription.
 
weRutd&werule said:
if we had 18m viewers no way would barney and redford ever get aired
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I hate this show, no idea what it was all about really.

Richter said:
I have it, not the "full" version though. A channel here are showing shows from both MUTV and Chelsea TV.
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Mine's not the full version either. 2 channals in a package and you get Liverpool and *chelsea in one channal (fecking waste of tv space!), Arsenal tv block and *Mutv in the other channal.

*Main club of the channal. Something like 3/4 of them mutv, the rest SPL or the other club games. Though i pay only ~2+quid for all of them per month.
 
i was under the impression that mutv was still making a loss. i know that we only own 33% of it, with BSkyB and Granada being the other two equal partners. Last viewing figures i read was 70,000 subscribers. In addition to this, viewership can be counted in many different ways. Sometimes its the number of individual households (ie 10,000 household subscriptions = 10,000 viewers, other methods include counting once for every time a household turns mutv on which would mean 10,000 subscribers turning mutv on 100 times a year which would equal 1,000,000 viewers). Very much doubt Glazers main focus is Mutv, although I do think it has potential to make profit for the club, especially if, as in Italy clubs are eventually allowed to sell their own tv rights.
 
RioNkeanofan said:
nah i´m in iceland and i get the full version.
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You have MUTV in Iceland? It's a conspiracy against Swedish United fans :mad:
 
nav113 said:
I suppose the 18,000,000 stat is believable when you look at it in the context of a few percent of the Chinese poulation being United supporters. As pointed out, I'ts highly unlikely that they all pay a subscription.
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Maybe if we could get MUTV out here, but it's not available in Hong Kong and I very much doubt it is available on the mainland yet as broadcast of anything but state produced TV is rare outside of gweilo hotel chains which are exempted from the tighter regulations. The idea that the Asian market may hold the missing 17 Million plus viewers is flawed when you consider that almost all of the footie mad Asian countries block buy the rights to show the English and European competitions with ESPN and Starsports package covering most competitions in the vast majority of Asian countries and local cable channels making up the shortfall.

There's only 4 or 5 matches a season I've not been able to watch live for the last few years, usually the early rounds of the cups if we draw a lower division team, or there is a better match on offer, and one or two Prem matches against the likes of Norwich. Even then you can usually catch them on tape delay within a few hours so MUTV would have to offer a lot more than reserve games and interviews to draw in significant subscribers out here. I would probably get it for the reserve games if it were available, but given the sulking if Becks, Ronaldo, Keane etc don't turn up for some meaningless friendly here or in the states I doubt many would subscribe for the chance to watch Eagles and Bellion.

If they do buy the broadcast rights when Sky's deal comes up for renewal then it would be a different story and that is one of the major reasons Glazer is interested in us. I would worry if we were to go down this route though as I fear the excellent coverage we receive at present may suffer while the loss of revenue for smaller clubs would seriously damage the league.
 
Shane Bluck said:
I agree, and if there is, i want a bit more for me money!
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:lol: indeed. The quality of MUTV is shockingly poor. Forget Barney and Redford, that cockney gimp in the studio is the most awkward presenter since Richard Whitely, the summariser on the youth games is an embarrassment, the whole thing is amateur night. How often is the schedule totally different from what's listed? How many times will Paddy, not to mention Allen from gravesend and Ahmed from Bradford, say "Get back to 4-4-2, Keane and Scholes in the middle, Giggs and Ronaldo on the wings, Rooney up front with Ruud" before someone explains the situation to them or gives them a lethal fecking injection?

It's only Bower who's any good, and even he's not exactly blinding.
 
Plechazunga said:
:lol: indeed. The quality of MUTV is shockingly poor. Forget Barney and Redford, that cockney gimp in the studio is the most awkward presenter since Richard Whitely, the summariser on the youth games is an embarrassment, the whole thing is amateur night. How often is the schedule totally different from what's listed? How many times will Paddy, not to mention Allen from gravesend and Ahmed from Bradford, say "Get back to 4-4-2, Keane and Scholes in the middle, Giggs and Ronaldo on the wings, Rooney up front with Ruud" before someone explains the situation to them or gives them a lethal fecking injection?

It's only Bower who's any good, and even he's not exactly blinding.
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Crerands the only reason I get the bloody thing, that and the youth team coverage.

The same Crerand who, I might have mentioned, I met yesterday.
 
'ach, deer me referee, that was a foul'

*upon seeing replay* '...well it looked it, Steve'

Priceless, though how he puts up with Dave from Kent stuttering on about how we should buy Gerrard, Gattuso and play them upfront with Elvis and Princess Diana is quite admirable, for an often pissed up Scotsman.
 
It was good for reserves/youth team/Paddy.

Also, they once aired the Barca game from 94/95. That was nice.
 
VanNistelrater said:
'ach, deer me referee, that was a foul'

*upon seeing replay* '...well it looked it, Steve'.
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I love how he gets it so biasedly wrong, then has to do a bit of back peddling on the replay! :lol: :lol:



VanNistelrater said:
Priceless, though how he puts up with Dave from Kent stuttering on about how we should buy Gerrard, Gattuso and play them upfront with Elvis and Princess Diana is quite admirable, for an often pissed up Scotsman.
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Yep, there are some proper fecking jokers on the phone in, I am almost expecting a call from yianni from Oz, to discuss stripes on fecking shorts!
 
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