Wasn't Pogba and martial the duo who saved his job.
The twat said the same things about Hazard and Debruyne before selling him.
Matic and have been far worse than Pogba but naah let's make him the scape goat.
Mourinho at full time: "Pogba a virus. You don't play. You don't respect players/fans" [Castles]
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The twat said the same things about Hazard and Debruyne before selling him.
Matic and have been far worse than Pogba but naah let's make him the scape goat.
I wont defend Pogba because there is nothing to defend or attack. Pogba has always been inconsistent and vulnerable to pressure. The only issue is with people that have spent years fantasizing about a player that doesn't exist and has never existed, Pogba will do dumb things when he feels the pressure. He has been like that for France for a very long time and I can assure you that he cares a lot.
Mourinho is clueless but who's leaking this information? It's unacceptable.
What does that have to do with Pogba's professionalism?
You can only look at the penalty incident with Sanchez at the start of the season that set the tone of the squad. All to take that stupid penalty of his, to satisfy his personal ego. The guy is a detriment to squad harmony.
This does not obsolve Jose of being a cnut for the record, both aren't mutually exclusive.
It's remarkable how bad our movement is and how deep our players are though. So many times yesterday when Pogba got the ball he had literally no good options to play; 8-9 players were behind him, there were no players in decent forward positions or making space for themselves, and no players were storming forward to provide an option. Don't get me wrong, he makes way too many silly and unnecessary mistakes, but not sure how much we can reasonably expect him (or anyone else) to do when the team is so defensive, static and terribly disjointed.
When I think about most of our former player who were proper Manchester United players; total commitment, total believe in the club and it's supporters, never knowing they were beaten and total pride in their performance, it makes my blood boil when I see talented players like Pogba displaying such a careless attitude.
One thing I cannot forgive any United player is thinking they are bigger than the club.
I have one message for him - turn up and play or take your bad attitude as far away from OT as possible.
These. I believe Pogba has saved Mous job already many times, with Martial. It is not Pogba thats the Virus, even though he could play better. The Virus is all over the place which culminates to the Manager. Mou Out.
Can’t speak for others but I look at his performance yesterday and yeah it was awful but there are reasons for this. The amount of times you could see him looking for a pass, gesturing for people to make a run and then having words with people asking them why they didn’t make the run forced him to hold on to the ball too long and get caught.
Now I’d prefer he didn’t get caught on the ball and when he realises people aren’t making the run just move it on somewhere safe but I’d want a player that backs himself to be able to hold the ball, there were also moments of his class yesterday when he held off two and beat a 3rd player. There were moments of absolute cross like when he was looking up the pitch to see a pass then tried to pull the ball back from a defender and missed it.
Personally we as a team and the way we play just don’t use or get the best out of him and he doesn’t give us his best often enough. In a better team under a better manager he’d thrive.
If anyone is a virus then it’s clearly Jose as he’s been slowly eating away atthe would of the club for 2 years now.
Couldn't agree more, there was a very good reason Fergie fecked him off in the first place. Why oh why we splashed that amount on him and actually got him back I don't know.
Just look at Juventus, hardly missed him have they, in fact they are probably better. Pogba must be the most highly over rated player in the world right now.
I didn't think much of him after a few months at OT, people were saying how great he is and he just needs to re settle.
Well I'd like him to settle on a flight out of Manchester to anywhere in the world never to come back to these shores, he's just a showboating twat who can't even showboat properly.
Rant over, deep breath.
Oh and sack Mourinho, he wanted him and has built our team and wonderful performing players and football around him. Roll on mid day, as its Sunday I'll have a glass something.
Pogba shouldn’t have “turned up” and tried when he saved his ass against Newcastle and turned the game by himself.
feck all you guys
unbelievably short memories. If anybody doesn’t give a shit it’s clearly Jose. If only he coached as well as he talked 
feck all you guys
unbelievably short memories. If anybody doesn’t give a shit it’s clearly Jose. If only he coached as well as he talked Fergie did not do that. He wanted him to stay. That narrative needs to die.
I think Mourinho has a point, Pogba's attitude and on-pitch demeanour can be awful at times.
That said, it's hard to take any criticism from Mourinho seriously when he is a manager who has failed at this club, is on borrowed time and has a track record of needlessly criticising players. I don't see why Pogba would care what he says.
Also, it's not like Pogba was ever a "mad dog" type player. It would be like buying Ozil and then complaining about his attitude on the pitch.
Would quite happily see both leave.
That said, it's hard to take any criticism from Mourinho seriously when he is a manager who has failed at this club, is on borrowed time and has a track record of needlessly criticising players. I don't see why Pogba would care what he says.
Also, it's not like Pogba was ever a "mad dog" type player. It would be like buying Ozil and then complaining about his attitude on the pitch.
Would quite happily see both leave.
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Fergie saw the issues with Pogba and let him go he is a talented player but an ego maniac only cares about himself and his own publicity a horrendous team player .
Fergie dislikes him then and would have hated him now .
He’s a bad influence on all around him if any other team would be stupid enough to offer our money back on him and risk his influence on there team I would happily drive him to the airport
Fergie saw the issues with Pogba and let him go he is a talented player but an ego maniac only cares about himself and his own publicity a horrendous team player .
Fergie dislikes him then and would have hated him now .
He’s a bad influence on all around him if any other team would be stupid enough to offer our money back on him and risk his influence on there team I would happily drive him to the airport
The irony of Mourinho calling anyone else a virus.
Mourinho just wants to be sacked
I was totally against bringing back Pogba, said so in the threads that preceded his 90 million pound return. There was just a bad smell about re-signing someone our greatest ever manager had reason to let go, and it was symptomatic of the directionless thrashing about post-Fergie that continues today. Pogba is obviously not a front man carrying the team, he's just a top talent who wants to do brilliant things on the pitch. But he doesn't do that many and when he fecks up it costs us. A real frustration. He needs a superb captain figure alongside him to liberate him from responsibility. Mourinho might have some twisted tendentious reasons for singling him out but I understand his disappointment.
Pogba was shite yesterday, but if this is true it is just a further embarrassment to add to the list from Jose. The manager needs to go.
Pogba shouldn’t have “turned up” and tried when he saved his ass against Newcastle and turned the game by himself.
feck all you guys
He is bloody negative when he talks and if he is the same with the players that spread for sure.
Mourinho is a cunning one. Now this comes out and instead of just focusing on his shite performance as a manager, the focus brings along Pogba who although rightly deserves criticism for yesterday's performance, is now making fans turn on him even though he's been one of United's best players this season.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Oh lovely should mean some more of Matic, McTominay and Fellaini .whatever man I don't give a shite anymore .
If Pogba's a virus for anything, it is for Mourinho's bullshit tactics and approach to football which is ruining our club. Let's hope the virus wins.
Pogba shouldn’t have “turned up” and tried when he saved his ass against Newcastle and turned the game by himself.
feck all you guys
Yep, after one bad performance in God knows how many weeks, he’s shite again. Mourinho is clearly the one that needs to be fecked far away from this club, it shouldn’t even be a debate. Letting Pogba go would only cement our place as a mid table club. He’s one of our only players that can control a football for a start.
A journalist who couldn't write IS.
So we should just be grateful he tried once 10 games ago? Doing the job that he's paid millions a year for is 'saving the manager's ass'?Pogba shouldn’t have “turned up” and tried when he saved his ass against Newcastle and turned the game by himself.
feck all you guys
Pogba this season is like di Maria in his only season. Capable of moments of brilliance but generally lacklustre and frustrating to watch.
This will be a blessing in disguise, Mourinho only played three in the middle because of Pogba, he now can revert back to type with 4-2-3-1, with two of Matic,Herrera and Fred in midfield, with Martial on the left, Linguard or Mata thru the middle and Rashford on the right, and Fellani the super sub.
You either didn't watch the game or you're so blinkered in your assessment that you're trying to distort reality to fit your view.
He didn't lose the ball because he was being creative in his passing. His passing stats were fine, if safe. No through balls, no key passes, but around half forward. Alright.
He lost the ball a lot because he was playing like a fecking clown when he got the ball. He took 17 touches when he could have moved the ball on in one or two. He was disposed more times than anyone has been in the Premier League this season because he was preening around in the middle of the pitch doing fecking nothing other than pointless tricks and flicks.
If it's deluded to think that's not good enough from a United midfielder then fecking sign me up.
They both need to go and, by the looks of it, both very much want to go. Good riddance to the pair of them - I hope they end up at the same club, they deserve eachother.
Pogba has been our best player and the best player on the field in almost all our wins and he has been our best player in almost all our losses too. You can be frustrated by all his flaws and weaknesses but don't be ridiculous, it only weakens your credibility.
Pogba will worm his way out in the summer whether Mourinho is here or not.
Has he though?
Our wins are against Leicester, Burnley, Watford, Newcastle, Everton, Bournemouth - I'd say our best players have been Shaw, Lukaku, didn't watch the Watford game, Pogba, Martial and Martial, respectively.
Pogba was our best player vs Young Boys and the worst against Juventus.
One of my favourite things when Jose fecks off is that Castles will go back to hating us again.
Can’t stand that bland, bald cnut.
Can’t stand that bland, bald cnut.
This cannot be ignored. The confidence and joy has been sucked out of those players one by one Pogba seems to have kept going for as long as he could but threw in the towel yesterday. Did you hear what Fred said? He's already frustrated with his game time and it cost him his place in the last Brazilian squad . More problems are coming if we keep this clown in charge.
What does this team look like in two years time if Jose is still manager?
He won’t be here in 6 months time let alone 2 years so it’s a bit of a pointless question.
It's easy sorted, get rid of Mourinho and see if another manager/coach could get anything out of Pogba. Only caught the last 25 minutes so can't say about rest of the game but my god, I slept last night. Pogba doesn't seem to want to play for JM, but then again, neither does anyone else, aside from Fellaini that is.
If those quotes are to be believed, and I'd take it with a grain of salt, then I think that's really it for Mourinho. Pogba was going through the motions last night, a few others were too and we needed more from him. Problem for the manager is that players like Pogba are the ones he's going to be relying on to get him out of this tough run of form, which could be where the anger stems from, he's already had to rely on him and Martial a few times this season to get us out of a bad situation.
Fellaini and Matic might play for Mourinho but relatively speaking they're shite, whether he likes it or not they're not the ones who're going to be getting us through patches like this. I'd take Mourinho's criticism more seriously if I thought he wasn't just scapegoating, he wants "mad dogs" then plays the most immobile team possible, it's baffling. He's scapegoating his best player, he probably expects more from him which is fair, but if he's going to call out players then he needs to call them all out ideally.
Shaw, Young, Matic, McTominay and Fellaini were nowhere near good enough yesterday, Lukaku I'll cut some slack because he was actually trying. It's just two sets of rules for Mourinho and the players he likes/dislikes, he should criticise them all equally not singling out people. We've seen it before with Hazard at Chelsea and De Bruyne before he left Chelsea.
Fellaini and Matic might play for Mourinho but relatively speaking they're shite, whether he likes it or not they're not the ones who're going to be getting us through patches like this. I'd take Mourinho's criticism more seriously if I thought he wasn't just scapegoating, he wants "mad dogs" then plays the most immobile team possible, it's baffling. He's scapegoating his best player, he probably expects more from him which is fair, but if he's going to call out players then he needs to call them all out ideally.
Shaw, Young, Matic, McTominay and Fellaini were nowhere near good enough yesterday, Lukaku I'll cut some slack because he was actually trying. It's just two sets of rules for Mourinho and the players he likes/dislikes, he should criticise them all equally not singling out people. We've seen it before with Hazard at Chelsea and De Bruyne before he left Chelsea.
There is no way that could happen surely. I really can’t see any way he is still our manager by the start of next season.
The whole team is lacklustre and frustrating to watch.....wrong to blame Pogba!!!!!
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