Most Quiet Transfer Window

30 years old, but 6 millions since it's his last year of contract wouldn't be too bad.
it's up in those rumors right now
 
Probably will bring in a couple of youngsters, and then loan em out straight away. We are desperate for another striking option in my view, and have been since the summer. But bizarrely, LVG seems more than content with having less options up front. Anything happens to Martial or Rooney and we are screwed. I just can't fathom what he thinks he is gaining by leaving himself short of goal-scoring options, and by doing so, unnecessarily trusting to luck that our strikers won't get injured.
Think we've been crying out for a creative player for years . A striker would be nice but if we can't create chances for them it will be more of the same.The way Pereira performed last night he should be given the chance.Mata is just not doing it.
 
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He's out of contract in the summer isn't he, if he's going for them figures, then I'd imagine a fair few clubs will be interested.

He'd be the perfect style player for us at the moment, it would take the weight off Martial's shoulders. The only negative being he's 30.

Im not arsed if he's 30, he would be ideal for us. He's got a few goals in him, he is technically sound and clever and a powerful runner with the ball. Everything we need for more attacking power atm, and for that price it's not even much of a gamble in my view.
 
Think we've been crying out for a creative player for years . A striker would be nice but if we can't create chances for them it will be more of the same.The way Pereira performed last night he should be given the chance.Mata is just not doing it.

Aye, i can't disagree with that. But i could turn it round and say not much point creating chances if we don't have the strikers to put them away. :)
Tbh, we have regularly struggled to create chances generally this season, and ironically, when we have created chances we have regularly failed to put them away. Looks like we need more than one player really, but i'd settle for a striker right now personally.
 
I don't think we'll be signing anyone in this window.

We definitely won't. I knew beforehand we wouldn't either. Not sure though whether it's down to Van Gaal's pure ignorance (which wouldn't surprise me), Or the club not giving him anymore money (which I understand).
 
The squad we have is good enough for top 4.

With the return of Januzaj, and Perreira and Keane waiting on the wings, we have depth too in attack. Wilson can be recalled too in necessary.

I'm content with such a quiet window. Its up to our current players and management to step up.
 
It would look very stupid if we fail to make top 4, and I agree that would be a huge setback. I guess I just believe that the current team, as flawed as it is, should still be able to make it? I don't think the problems lie only in the striker position either fwiw, the issue is more in the entire style of play. We're 2 points behind Spurs with a better team than them, and don't even get me started on Leicester City. For LVG to fail to deliver at least fourth again would be really, really poor.
Is it actually better than Spurs' team, though?
I genuinely don't see how it is. It's very very even, quality wise - which is half of the problem.

When I read things like that (or "we're two players away from being great",) I feel people overrate the squad. I don't see how Tottenham's best eleven is any weaker than United's. And the squad isn't even that strong like it always was under Sir Alex.

It's little surprise that Tottenham and United are extremely close on points, because the level of quality is extremely similar. van Gaal's team are slightly underachieving currently, not hugely, in my opinion.
 
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Is it actually better than Spurs' team, though?
I genuinely don't see how it is. It's very very even, quality wise - which is half of the problem.

When I read things like that (or "we're two players away from being great",) I feel people overrate the squad. I don't see how Tottenham's best eleven is any weaker than United's. And the squad isn't even that strong like it always was under Sir Alex.

It's little surprise that Tottenham and United are extremely close on points, because the level of quality is extremely similar. van Gaal's team are slightly underachieving currently, not hugely, in my opinion.
I think it is, on paper. Just not in current form. De Gea's the best player in a combined XI, and I rate Schneiderlin higher than Dembele. Think we have a better defense as well, and Mata's quality is of a different calibre to Lamela. Rooney/Martial compares fine to Kane. Our players simply haven't performed as a team so far this season, and the injuries haven't helped. However, in the end, the only way to judge the players objectively is how they perform over several seasons, so if we continue to be this bad next year, I'd have to agree with you.
 
I think it is, on paper. Just not in current form. De Gea's the best player in a combined XI, and I rate Schneiderlin higher than Dembele. Think we have a better defense as well, and Mata's quality is of a different calibre to Lamela. Rooney/Martial compares fine to Kane. Our players simply haven't performed as a team so far this season, and the injuries haven't helped. However, in the end, the only way to judge the players objectively is how they perform over several seasons, so if we continue to be this bad next year, I'd have to agree with you.
I guess you can frame it in that way. However...

de Gea is better than Lloris, but he's a goalkeeper and has virtually no bearing on the flow of the game.
Dembele does things that none of the United midfielders can do. He's very different to Schneiderlin. But ultimately, Tottenham's regular midfield unit is just as good.

Mata (without being great) is probably better than Lamela, yes (though, that's probably on name more than anything tangible that he offers.)
But - Rooney, Martial, Mata versus Eriksen, Kane, Lamela? They're just as good as a three. Kane is also better than Martial currently, if we're being honest.

There's nothing between the defences.

Is there actually an out-field unit (defence, midfield, attack) where it's clear that United are superior?
 
I think it is, on paper. Just not in current form. De Gea's the best player in a combined XI, and I rate Schneiderlin higher than Dembele. Think we have a better defense as well, and Mata's quality is of a different calibre to Lamela. Rooney/Martial compares fine to Kane. Our players simply haven't performed as a team so far this season, and the injuries haven't helped. However, in the end, the only way to judge the players objectively is how they perform over several seasons, so if we continue to be this bad next year, I'd have to agree with you.

I can't see us being this bad under any other manager tbh. A change of leadership and direction is all we need in my view. Although it still hasn't been great, it is clear to see a generally more positive attitude has lifted the spirit within the players in the last 2 games. Despite LVG still seemingly having no clue how to get the best out of a squad he himself has assembled. :wenger:

However, I also believe we have more quality than Spurs generally, but they undoubtedly have far more confidence in their manager's philosophy than we do in ours. As a consequence, they play with a clear and definable plan of action, where everybody is working towards a specific goal, and they obviously take huge confidence and belief from that. Whilst in stark contrast, we still don't appear to have any real idea of what LVG is trying to do, or how we go about achieving it. So really, we have very little to take confidence in other than the quality of certain individuals within our squad.

I think it's fair to suggest that if Poch could do with our squad, what he has done with Spurs and give us something definitive to work towards, i seriously doubt making 4th would even be an issue, and we would surely already be setting our sights far higher.
 
I guess you can frame it in that way. However...

de Gea is better than Lloris, but he's a goalkeeper and has virtually no bearing on the flow of the game.
Dembele does things that none of the United midfielders can do. He's very different to Schneiderlin. But ultimately, Tottenham's regular midfield unit is just as good.

Mata (without being great) is probably better than Lamela, yes (though, that's probably on name more than anything tangible that he offers.)
But - Rooney, Martial, Mata versus Eriksen, Kane, Lamela? They're just as good as a three. Kane is also better than Martial currently, if we're being honest.

There's nothing between the defences.

Is there actually an out-field unit (defence, midfield, attack) where it's clear that United are superior?
This season? No. On paper/name basis, I think our midfield and defense are better. DDG, Smalling, and Shaw are better than what Spurs have got. I like Schmidfield plus Herrera, although its closer there. But again, it's very difficult to say how much fault lies with the quality of player versus the coaching. Whenever a team under-performs people revise their opinions of the players downwards. Look at the difference in rating of our squad between Sir Alex's final season and under Moyes. Most would have you believe the players became crap overnight.

If another coach replaces LVG and we're still around Spurs' level then that would convince me. For now, I think this team is capable of much better.
 
I guess you can frame it in that way. However...

de Gea is better than Lloris, but he's a goalkeeper and has virtually no bearing on the flow of the game.
Dembele does things that none of the United midfielders can do. He's very different to Schneiderlin. But ultimately, Tottenham's regular midfield unit is just as good.

Mata (without being great) is probably better than Lamela, yes (though, that's probably on name more than anything tangible that he offers.)
But - Rooney, Martial, Mata versus Eriksen, Kane, Lamela? They're just as good as a three. Kane is also better than Martial currently, if we're being honest.

There's nothing between the defences.

Is there actually an out-field unit (defence, midfield, attack) where it's clear that United are superior?

You are comparing players who are playing with confidence and composure within an effective team unit, to players who are playing with little confidence, little composure and still have no easily discernible strategy to believe in.

Yes, Spurs performances have been better collectively and individually, but that doesn't mean they have better players generally, or even as good. If this Utd team could enjoy playing under similar circumstances to what Spurs have, i doubt we would even be having this debate. Far more quality throughout our squad in my view, and despite our problems, we are still right up there with a Spurs team who have played consistently well all season.

Ask yourself if we had played more like Spurs, and they had played more like we have. Where do you think spurs would currently be in the league? I am fairly confident we would be placed higher than Spurs are currently, and they would be lower than we currently are. Spurs are fulfilling -if not exceeding- the sum of their parts through good management. We are certainly nowhere near even remotely fulfilling the sum of our parts, due mainly to poor management.
 
Wonder how skysports Jim and Natalie are going to hype the most boring window ever

the deadline day nonsense they always try cooking up really irritates me but it'll be funny seeing them struggle this window
 
The squad we have is good enough for top 4.

With the return of Januzaj, and Perreira and Keane waiting on the wings, we have depth too in attack. Wilson can be recalled too in necessary.

I'm content with such a quiet window. Its up to our current players and management to step up.

Tend to agree with this, we actually have alot of attackers, especially if LvG is determined to play two out of Schneiderlin, Schweinstegier, and Carrick whenever they are fit. The defence is the area we could maybe do with something, but Rojo will be back soon, and I'm sure Jones will dip in and out too, so again we are hardly desperate there.

We really need to treat Januzaj as a new signing and give him a chance on the right like LvG has done with Lingard, on paper this just looks so good:

----------------------Rooney-------------------
Martial-------------Herrera-----------Januzaj
---------Schneiderlin----Schweinstegier------

And then we still have Carrick, Mata, Pereira, Fellaini, Memphis, Young, and Keane, as back up.

Unless someone is going then we're best just staying as we are until the summer now imo, give the new manager (hopefully) more money to spend then.
 
The last week will explode into life, I reckon.

Southampton are waiting for the game against us on the 23rd before selling Mane. Once that happens, it'll have a knock on effect for everyone else as money starts to flood the market.
 
The last week will explode into life, I reckon.

Southampton are waiting for the game against us on the 23rd before selling Mane. Once that happens, it'll have a knock on effect for everyone else as money starts to flood the market.

I hope you are right but I don't see them selling Mane until the summer.
 
What the hell is going on? 31st of January and there aren't even any rumours flying around, let alone preparation of bids from Woody.
I know we shouldn't just buy for the sake of buying but this is so damn boring (and frustrating when you consider the state of the team).
 
It's been so abysmal it's hilarious in a way because I bet Sky Sports News are absolutely seething. I have no doubts they'll try to make any transfer deal that happens on deadline day exciting though.
 
What the hell is going on? 31st of January and there aren't even any rumours flying around, let alone preparation of bids from Woody.
I know we shouldn't just buy for the sake of buying but this is so damn boring (and frustrating when you consider the state of the team).
It is strange, the market is very slow though. It's as if a number of clubs have a mutual understanding not to sell/buy

I agree with not buying for the sake of it, but you'd think the fans could do with a reason to care. There are so many that are focusing on other interests at the moment because it's so boring. We need a signing to give us a second wind. Ed and LvG really don't seem to care though.
 
Looking forward to Deadline Day ,seeing Jim White that guy with two phones and that bald guy with his transfer accumulator trying to keep it alive with those silly yellow ties.
 
Remy looks to be on his way to Leicester, £11.5m is the figure i saw. Chelsea have developed a Spurs-like ability when selling in the past few years.
 
Just a sign we're not spending until the next manager comes in, in my opinion.
 
When you know Jonjo Shelvey has been biggest transfer of the window you know it's been a bad one.
 
It's funny, it's probably the richest the Premier League clubs have ever been, but this was the resulting transfer window. Jim White should resign.
 
Most players dont want to move before the euros, for united, i think we want a new manager first and then he can buy his players. Chelsea probably the same, city also have to get a new manager. Liverpool are a bit cheap, that only leaves arsenal who usually dont buy in january. I think we will see a very huge net spend in the summer. Everyone is rich, everyone can afford many players they couldnt. I think players that have good euros will be earning good euros soon.
 
Keep it quiet. Nothing interesting on the market.
 
Theres a lot of Cavani stories floating around. Anyone think theres anything in it?
 
As someone said, "the Winter window is for players clubs don't want, the Summer one is for players clubs do want".