Thanks... it was a manic rush through 2 cities in 3 days, and I got 9 hours sleep total, but it went well.
Aside from having to deal with questions like "What was that song?" from various people who haven't listened to a record since the 1920s...
Most Overrated Bands / Artists
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
Thanks... it was a manic rush through 2 cities in 3 days, and I got 9 hours sleep total, but it went well.
Aside from having to deal with questions like "What was that song?" from various people who haven't listened to a record since the 1920s...
Anyone else slightly annoyed by the fact that While My Guitar Gently Weeps has a split infinitive?
I've been listening to the version of "While My Guitar" on the Love album that Plech recommended. It is incredible, a mix of George's acoustic demo with strings, beautiful.
Arctic Monkeys first album is brilliant, and I've seen them live and they were class. Second album isn't as good.
Arctic Monkeys first album is brilliant, and I've seen them live and they were class. Second album isn't as good.
The Beatles, by the very nature of their band name, seemingly had little care for grammar or spelling. Careless.
I think I prefer the second album to be honest, which suprises me because I wasn't keen at first and didn't think they could top the first one at all, but I found it got better with every listen just as In Rainbows did as well.
I imagine a fair amount of eating got done in those three days?
It doesn't. "To gently weep" would be a split infinitive
But there's nothing wrong with split infinitives anyway! They're totally natural to the language. In fact, it's a misnomer anyway, no real splitting is being done...
It's a pun cnutface!
Yes, 2 wedding banquets, 1 catered lunch at which a roast pig was consumed, 1 "small" family dinner with 25 people, and 2 vegetarian Indian breakfasts.
Most of it by other people. I don't really know what my wedding banquets tasted like, and I only had a bite of roast pig because my mother-in-law insisted it would be bad luck if the groom didn't taste it.
Hang on - so it doesn't matter if there's a noun / pronoun in front of the infinitive?
Well it's personal preference, but I felt some of the songs were a bit "easy".There are some very good songs on there, and I'd say it's an acceptable follow-up, but it doesn't suggest to me that they've got anywhere to go for the next album.
Seems a bit harsh... did you spend the whole time going round the tables?
Are you talking about the title of the song? There's no infinitive in it, "weeps" is indicative
Harsh, but we'll see.
The third album is usually the hardest and most definitive in a bands career, can make or break you, but I think they may have enough about them to go forward, but who knows, as I said we'll see soon enough,
Is it? Can you give any examples? I've always thought first and second albums are most important, to establish themselves while they're fresh and hungry, and then experiment later in their careers.
I don't doubt that they'll continue to make decent rock songs, but I don't think you'll see anything drastically different from their first album.
Yes, pretty much. I toasted 480 people out of 600 before the guests started leaving. Quality.
At the other banquet, I toasted all 120 guests so that was fine, until individual people came up expecting personalised toasts.
Oh.
I've been defeated by the concept again. It's getting quite annoying.
Well an example would be Ok Computer. It transported Radiohead into a whole different stratosphere and was a significant departure from The Bends too. It changed them from just a good band into a band that had something to say and who would make musical history. That's how important a third album can be.
Another example would be Oasis' third album, this one saw their critical acclaim plummet and made sure there place in musical history would be limited.
I always look to a bands third album (if they get that far that is)
The Holy Bible - Manic Street Preachers' third album, another defining one.
I have to say I'm not convinced.
Oasis' place in musical history is defined by their first two albums. As average as they became, they still made enough of an impression with DM and WTSMG to get a loyal fan-base and critical acclaim. I don't think it was a case of their third album being the hardest to make, just that Noel was shown to be a bit limited. I think the same will happen with the Monkeys.
You think it will, I think there is a chance it could go the other way, as I said we''ll see.
Oh and I HOPE you are fecking wrong, because take them out of the equation and there ain't much else left out there in the newish music scene. Not in that genre anyway.
Yeah to be fair I think the Monkeys are the only current band I really listen to. !!! are quite good too.
I'm with Rednome on this one.
The Arctic's are just gonna get better and better I reckon
The Arctic's are just gonna get better and better I reckon
Oh and anyway, you are really over analysing the line "the difficult third album", it is actually a widely used term in the music industry, not sure who first came up with it though.
you poor buggerForget about them... the whole concept of the split infinitive is nonsense, invented by 19th-century linguists who wanted English to be more like Latin or French, where the infinitive is a single word
Here's Otto Jesperson, a contemporary of theirs but infinitely their superior - Denmark's greatest genius of all time bar Schmikes:
Another recent innovation is the use of to as what might be called a pro-infinitive instead of the clumsy to do so" 'Will you play?' 'Yes, I intend to'. 'I am going to.' This is one among several indications that the linguistic instinct now takes to to belong to the preceding verb [i.e. 'intend', 'going'] rather than to the infinitive, a fact which, together with other circumstances, serves to explain the phenomenon usually mistermed 'the split infinitive.' This name is bad because we have many infinitives without to, as 'I made him go'. To therefore is no more an essential part of an infinitive than the definite article is an essential part of a nominative [i.e. a noun as subject of the sentence], and no-one would think of calling 'the good man' a split nominative.
Although examples of an adverb between to and the infinitive occur as early as the fourteenth century, they do not become very frequent till the latter half of the nineteenth century. In some cases they decidedly contribute to the clearness of the sentence by showing at once what word is qualified by the adverb. Thackeray's and Seeley's sentences 'she only wanted a pipe in her mouth considerably to resemble the late Field marshal' and 'the poverty of the nation did not allow them successfully to compete with the other nations' are not very happily built up., for the reader at first glance is inclined to connect the adverb with what precedes. The sentences would have been clearer if the authors had ventured to place to before the adverb, as Burns does in 'Who dar'd to nobly stem tyrannic pride', and Carlyle in 'new Emissaries trained, and new tactics, to, if possible, entrap him, and hoodwink and handcuff him'.
I think the difficult third album concept is because:
First album: A collection of songs written and perfected over several years before the album was made, people are more willing to overlook flaws than later in the career.
Second album: Often similar to the first album but with better production values now that the record company is willing to let the band stay in the studio longer and get them a decent producer. The better production means people often overlook the fact the band has just re-made their first album.
Third album: Give us something new...
feckin ell, I only just noticed that. Probably something to do with Baz
That pretty much gets across what I wanted to say, but was too stoned to put into words. Just as I see it, the third album will be the one I judge harshest if that makes sense.
I thought it was 'the difficult second album'?
Or was that just the Stone Roses?
Or was that just the Stone Roses?
No I'm not, I'm actually just asking you to show me what you mean to say.
Besides, I've heard "difficult second album" more.
The fact is an album is only difficult if you've run out of things to say, which I think the Monkeys will.
I just listened to 'Love Spreads'. What a song.
Shame the rest of the album was such shite
Shame the rest of the album was such shite
Mike's got it spot on in his post above.
I will stick my head out and say that The sex pistols is one of the most overrated bands ever.
As a point of interest, who did Led Zeppelin steal music from, or what?
Evening franco, howz tricks and what's up with your new tagline?
I've got the Editors at the Apollo tonight. I really can't be arsed going if truth be told, but that's how I felt about the Verve, and they were great
Any band called The Editors should be denied access to all state resources, including air
What's next, the fecking Art Directors?
What's next, the fecking Art Directors?
I've got their album on my PC but only listened once, didn't grab me really, should give it another go maybe.
The singles are good, but a lot of the album tracks are absolute cack
That was probably my problem with it, I'm a real album person, if there are more than two or three fillers then I usually say goodbye.
Slabber once emailed me a few of their songs
They were awful
They were awful
The Editors are awful.
Their lead singer also seems to perpetually be doing a bad impression of Ian Curtis when he sings, which is just embarrassing.
Their lead singer also seems to perpetually be doing a bad impression of Ian Curtis when he sings, which is just embarrassing.