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A coward IMO. Might be harsh, but he never shows fight. He's awful in possession.

I'd ship him off after the 1st season. Tired of the club holding on to dead-weight players.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
A coward IMO. Might be harsh, but he never shows fight. He's awful in possession.

I'd ship him off after the 1st season. Tired of the club holding on to dead-weight players.
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Insane post. He's one of the best defensive mids in the Prem, who do you replace him with? Did he play well today? No he didn't, but no one did, so it's pretty hard to standout in a sea of shit - makes your job 100% harder.

Just watch, he will thrive under Mourinho once our clueless loser of a manager is gone.
 
pseudo_canadian said:
Hard to have much of an impact as a defensive mid when the entire team around you is utter garbage.

When the whole team lets each other down, everyone immediately looks utter gash.
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True but it doesn't excuse his performances, I want him to be lifting others around him and dragging us through the tough games, Maybe I'm being harsh considering its his first season but so far he hasn't showed much at all apart from bottling it when we need him most.
 
I said he was shit last week and got slaughtered on here by some clowns who thought it was cool to gang up on me...they seem to have gone into hiding though but they only came out after he had that one half-decent performance !

He's shit along with Fellaini. He needs to go. He brings nothing to the team at all.
 
pseudo_canadian said:
Insane post. He's one of the best defensive mids in the Prem, who do you replace him with? Did he play well today? No he didn't, but no one did, so it's pretty hard to standout in a sea of shit - makes your job 100% harder.

Just watch, he will thrive under Mourinho once our clueless loser of a manager is gone.
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He's been poor the entire season. If you want to pin that on LVG, fair enough.

We'll see how he does under Mourinho. If he plays much better, I'll admit I was wrong.
 
I could probably post this in most threads , I honestly dont think we will see the best of him until LVG goes.

He looked decent with Herrera and its annoying how we arent going with that for the rest of the season. They compliment each other and should be starting together.
 
Sylar said:
I could probably post this in most threads , I honestly dont think we will see the best of him until LVG goes.

He looked decent with Herrera and its annoying how we arent going with that for the rest of the season. They compliment each other and should be starting together.
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he is just one of the shittest managers I have ever seen to manage our team, okay I have seen three, and Moyes doesn't seem much worse after all.. how can people possibly judge players under this utter clown who doesnt have a clue what he does. He already proved himself in the premier league and I have no doubt that under competent manager he will thrive. People are just lazy when evlaluating players... We surelz have more quality than Leicester city and they are winning the league with danny drinkwater and Danny simpson starting..

Hopefully people will think about it a little bit and dont blame players every game we lose because of manager
 
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What is he good at? (Serious question)
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Nothing. He can around a bit but that's about it. Everything else about his game is mid table standard at best. His only hope is Mourinho taking a fancy to him and he's always a loved a water carrier but as a player he's painfully limited.
 
Akash said:
Nothing. He can around a bit but that's about it. Everything else about his game is mid table standard at best. His only hope is Mourinho taking a fancy to him and he's always a loved a water carrier but as a player he's painfully limited.
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A bit unfair he's superb at getting the ball back and his distribution should improve once he knows his role better. I'd like to see him toughened up in the air though as he doesn't win enough headers.
 
Lawman said:
A bit unfair he's superb at getting the ball back and his distribution should improve once he knows his role better. I'd like to see him toughened up in the air though as he doesn't win enough headers.
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He's ok. Any balls he might win is negated by the fact he's a bit clueless in general and lets people run past him repeatedly. When he's not doing that he's shitting himself on the ball or holding on the ball for 5 minutes before passing it backwards. He doesn't do anything whatsoever. A complete waste of space.
 
The worst performance from a CM, which is meant to be the lynch pin in a possession system. I really don't know what he was doing. He was taking up the DM position on the pitch; fair enough, probably told to do that, but not a single Liverpool player was occupying that space, they all pulled out to the channels. Have the fecking intelligence to talk to your team mates and realise, you're doing feck all. When people did run through the middle, they just went past him with ease. His passing was bloody awful and completely shit the bed when any pressure was applied to him when he had the ball. Pretty sure I watched him turn round in a circle 2-3 times when there were at least 2 forward pass options on. Really fecking disappointed with this signing.
 
He is just not a very good DM. The Scouse were able to do what they wanted through the middle. He gave them was too much space
 
Good example of why one should never listen to rave reviews from summer transfer gurus who have 'watched' player x for several seasons, proceed to make it their summer pet project to hype him up and panic on a daily basis if he is not signed yet.

I swear the amount of shit being spouted by them, you could carry those muppets over a shoulder and shoot them like a diarrhea waterbazooka: "Best central midfielder in the PL", "Are we really bottling the chance to make the most obvious signing in years?", "Finally a proper central midfielder", "People talk about his defensive qualities but look at these match compolations, spreads it around so effortlessly, guy is super complete", "the real thing", "I swear if Arsenal snap him up because of us being cheapskates and refusing to pay the extra few millions Southampton want...".

What an utter joke.
 
Don't understand the moaning tbh, he had an impossible task yesterday IMO. Not to mention our midfield was obviously told to do a job which in reality was a fecking awful tactical mistake by the manager.

He hasn't been great, but when he is allowed to play his normal game as a box to box midfielder he shows what he can do. Don't know why people are surprised he has poor games when he tell him to go and play as a deep lying playmaker which is is not.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
What is he good at? (Serious question)
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Occupying space to cut passes out and winning the ball back. Its impossible for a single defensive midfielder to cover the whole midfield themselves. You either need two of them on each side, or you need a CM who can pitch in and drop into the space when the DM is closing the ball down. Its no surprise when Herrera and/or Schweinstieger play Schneiderlin is like a different player because they help him out. Fellaini just runs in circles and leaves gaps Schneiderlin can't cover.
 
He was good in the first half of the season, very solid and consistent. The odd ropey game but was very solid in breaking up play and playing the simple pass. A no-nonsense DM. December hit and the whole team turned to shit, but Schneiderlin especially has been pretty awful since he came back into the side at the turn of the year.

We have no standout performers right now. Even Martial's form has gone down the toilet, and the ever reliable Smalling isn't performing to the levels we know he is capable of. De Gea is keeping us in games, but only he can do so much. Morgan has been poor, but so has everyone. The players need to shape up, but it all falls on the manager and he is clearly failing to motivate this team. Everyone looks completely shot. I can't even remember any side Moyes put out looking this beleaguered and drained.

I still have faith on Schneiderlin, and a lot of the players, but as a unit, we are fecking awful and it's hard to judge where individuals are at.
 
He isn't a holding midfielder. He's a defensive box to box runner.

Wanyama was the #6 at Southampton.
 
Bwuk said:
He isn't a holding midfielder. He's a defensive box to box runner.

Wanyama was the #6 at Southampton.
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It's staggering how people don't seem to grasp that. When we signed him I thought it was to bring more running and stability to a 433 with either Carrick or Bastian Holding.
 
Neither Schneiderlin or Wanyama were specifically a #6 at Southampton. Both were the base of the forward pointing midfield 3. Both did a very similar job. They rotated during the game who would sit and who could run between midfield and attack. Watch any Southampton game last season which they both played in, which was most of them. They were a very good pair.
 
Ballache said:
It's staggering how people don't seem to grasp that. When we signed him I thought it was to bring more running and stability to a 433 with either Carrick or Bastian Holding.
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I was actually upset when people were posting teams with Schneiderlin holding the fort, the guy is a sort of Marchisio, he has never been a DM. The only time I saw him play that role really well was against Spain but you can't really use that game because he had Pogba and Matuidi next to him.
 
I wonder if he has the personality and character to do well at a club like United.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
Neither Schneiderlin or Wanyama were specifically a #6 at Southampton. Both were the base of the forward pointing midfield 3. Both did a very similar job. They rotated during the game who would sit and who could run between midfield and attack. Watch any Southampton game last season which they both played in, which was most of them. They were a very good pair.
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Exactly. He's better going forward getting in peoples faces and trying to the win the ball back, rather than trying to read and intercept the ball.

It boggles my mind when we pair him with Carrick for example and ask Carrick to be the one to push on.

Schneiderlin will be fine and prove to be a very good player under a better manager than LvG. If Jose was in charge he'd absolutely love Schneiderlin in his 433.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
Neither Schneiderlin or Wanyama were specifically a #6 at Southampton. Both were the base of the forward pointing midfield 3. Both did a very similar job. They rotated during the game who would sit and who could run between midfield and attack. Watch any Southampton game last season which they both played in, which was most of them. They were a very good pair.
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It's no different to this role at United. The simple difference here he also has the added responsibility of being creative, which is something you'd expect from a United midfielder.
Even Makhelele used to make key passes in games by just releasing the ball early.
We can just continue blaming LVG or just expect him as a professional football to do his home work by perfecting his shortcomings, things like working on his reaction on the ball and releasing the ball quicker.
Btw if people think Mourinho expects his CMs to be sliding into tackles, you've never watched his teams. The only area in his game that makes him stand out.
 
KikiDaKats said:
It's no different to this role at United. The simple difference here he also has the added responsibility of being creative, which is something you'd expect from a United midfielder.
Even Makhelele used to make key passes in games by just releasing the ball early.
We can just continue blaming LVG or just expect him as a professional football to do his home work by perfecting his shortcomings, things like working on his reaction on the ball and releasing the ball quicker.
Btw if people think Mourinho expects his CMs to be sliding into tackles, you've never watched his teams. The only area in his game that makes him stand out.
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Not even nearly true
 
When Coutinho missed last night he'd already turned his back and started heading for the centre circle. I've seen a couple of instances of lazy defending like that from him and have been surprised.
 
Southampton is about his level. The fact that he's supposed to be a box to box CM is downright frightening.
 
Good player which we'll see in a French shirt this summer. Can't people see this team is toxic and the fact that there's a mass of players that are underperformaning is not coincidental.
 
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You're the one spouting shite, the burden of proof lies on you.
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Really? Is this what your loving s been reduced to. No wonder y'all end up getting disappointed when player performance don't match up.
Like I said I expect him to work on the areas that don't stand out in his game, to see him develop into the player people like you already believe he is.
 
I can see the argument that he might perform better under a different manager, but I don't think that excuses Schneiderlin at all.

Other players who have struggled under LVG, you watch and see trying hard, making sure they don't let team mates down by not bothering with the basics, and generally doing everything they can despite lacking confidence.

I could understand the sympathy if Schneiderllin was one of these players, but he's a million miles from it. He doesn't pick up his man...I thought he just had a habbit of losing his man but if you watch, he just doesn't bother piking up opposition players to begin with. He doesn't try to impose himself on a game. He shows no bravery or resistance in difficult games. We've conceded goals where he's lost the ball and literally just given up and stood there while the eventual goalscorer has run past him. That's not acceptable at all regardless of the manager.

He plays with the attitude of a Yaya Toure or a Ronaldo, despite being closer abiity wise to someone like Phil Neville. Don't think LVG has been wrong at all to use him sparingly. Most of his performances attitude/concentration wise have been worthy of being dropped. Most of our other players as poor as some of them have been, you can't really say that about.
 
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pseudo_canadian said:
Insane post. He's one of the best defensive mids in the Prem, who do you replace him with? Did he play well today? No he didn't, but no one did, so it's pretty hard to standout in a sea of shit - makes your job 100% harder.

Just watch, he will thrive under Mourinho once our clueless loser of a manager is gone.
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What's this based on?I never got that impression when he was at Southampton...a few pundits took a liking to him, but I was never sure why. They were the same ones who loved Lallana. I'm all for the idea he might turn it around as if he does he IS the type of player we need, but I don't think he's proven anything at all yet.

You can't really say "who do you replace him with" about someone who has yet to bring anything to the table that you would want to replace.
 
Playing two #6 is not helping any of our midfielders. He isn't a #6 but if you look at the way Herrera has been totally gimped, under Van Gaal the same will happen to Schneiderlin. If you want him to be effective you need him stabilized and winning the ball in the opponents half and keeping it ticking. He's shown he can do it from deep in front of the back four but you can tell our players are playing as if one bad stuff up during the film session will be highlighted and they'll be publicly flogged for it. You can't cop shite of Van Gaal if you don't turn the ball over doing dangerous things.

I full expect both Schneiderlin and Herrera to be completely different players under a new manager. Off topic to Morgan but what he has done to Herrera's game is nothing short of scandalous, I really hope it doesn't happen to Schneiderlin.
 
He's been a shadow of the player he was at Southampton. Very rarely does he drive a pass forward that actaully finds his target and his combativeness has been lacking. He's been bullied in most games I've seen him play in. The only one in recent memory where that wasn't true was against Arsenal, who have a lightweight midfield. He needs to bump up his level next season, he's been the most disappointing signing.
 
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