Monday Night Football reveal the BEST Premier League forward of all time

Good use of Capitalisation. Captured my interest and made me open the thread. Good work.
 
These lists are always bollocks.

But any list that doesn't have Andy Cole on it is absolutely crap and a waste of time.
 
I thought it was a good watch. It’s always easy trashing someone’s list but narrowing this down to ten is extremely difficult and at least had some sort of ranking system.

Funny enough the worst of the metrics was the fan vote bit.
 
Henry is a great player but he is definitely not the greatest PL forward. Also he is one of the most boring analysts I have ever heard speak.
 
Henry is a great player but he is definitely not the greatest PL forward. Also he is one of the most boring analysts I have ever heard speak.
Honestly, I think it's wild that people think someone else other than Henry is the greatest.
 
Henry is a great player but he is definitely not the greatest PL forward. Also he is one of the most boring analysts I have ever heard speak.
Have to respectfully disagree with you on both counts.

I grew up with the Man Utd v Arsenal rivalry and watched Henry at his peak. Initially, in the first couple of years when we signed Van Nistelrooy, I used to argue for Ruud being as good as/better than him but, looking back it was only a contest between them in terms of goals scored/the golden boot. Overall, Henry was the superior player. Goals, assists, dribbling, passing, all-round completeness...I say it's hard to argue against him as best in the Premier League.

As a pundit, I think he has some wonderful insight and analysis. Always spots or informs viewers of something you may not have otherwised noticed. Example being his analysis of Amad's winner.
 
Luis Suarez arguably hit the highest peak of any PL forward in 13/14. One season isn't enough to make him the best ever though. For pure consistency and longevity it can only be one of Henry/Rooney/Shearer.
 
The way Henry spoke about Hazard is quite something. The man is mesmerized.
 
Have to respectfully disagree with you on both counts.

I grew up with the Man Utd v Arsenal rivalry and watched Henry at his peak. Initially, in the first couple of years when we signed Van Nistelrooy, I used to argue for Ruud being as good as/better than him but, looking back it was only a contest between them in terms of goals scored/the golden boot. Overall, Henry was the superior player. Goals, assists, dribbling, passing, all-round completeness...I say it's hard to argue against him as best in the Premier League.

As a pundit, I think he has some wonderful insight and analysis. Always spots or informs viewers of something you may not have otherwised noticed. Example being his analysis of Amad's winner.
Yeah that was great analysis. Rare that a pundit who used to be an attacker can analyse and articulate that level of nuance.
 
Henry was years ahead of his time when he came to the league. No other player came close to his combination of goalscoring threat, pace, dribbling ability and creativity. He was a world class winger and striker rolled into one and seemed undefendable at his peak. Before he came along even pure goalscorers almost never cracked 20 goals in a 38 game season. He regularly scored 25 while providing a lot of assists as well. He was probably the best player in the world for a few years at the start of the millennium and his 02/03 season is arguably the best season ever by a Premier League player. It's criminal that he didn't win the Ballon d'Or that year.

Ronaldo is the only other forward that you could say was the best player in the world while he was playing in the Premier League, and also the single Premier League player who actually has an argument in the GOAT debate. It's between the two of them. I think Henry was the better player of the two when looking at their best Premier League seasons only, but Ronaldo obviously surpassed Henry's top level later on at Real Madrid. If I'm going to be unbiased I think it has to be Henry.

For me "greatest" and "best" are two different things. Greatness factors in legacy and longevity to a larger extent. Shearer, Cantona and Rooney have more of an argument in that respect, but none of them got close to the peak level of Henry and Ronaldo. Salah and Suarez are arguably closest two those two if you consider a player's absolute best season only.
 
The way Henry spoke about Hazard is quite something. The man is mesmerized.

I already knew Henry loved Hazard, but I love listening to him wax lyrical about him. He’s right too. You’d pay a lot of money to watch prime Hazard play football.
 
Luis Suarez arguably hit the highest peak of any PL forward in 13/14. One season isn't enough to make him the best ever though. For pure consistency and longevity it can only be one of Henry/Rooney/Shearer.
They explained it's based on their best 3 seasons, otherwise I would have him up there.
 
Henry was years ahead of his time when he came to the league. No other player came close to his combination of goalscoring threat, pace, dribbling ability and creativity. He was a world class winger and striker rolled into one and seemed undefendable at his peak. Before he came along even pure goalscorers almost never cracked 20 goals in a 38 game season. He regularly scored 25 while providing a lot of assists as well. He was probably the best player in the world for a few years at the start of the millennium and his 02/03 season is arguably the best season ever by a Premier League player. It's criminal that he didn't win the Ballon d'Or that year.

Ronaldo is the only other forward that you could say was the best player in the world while he was playing in the Premier League, and also the single Premier League player who actually has an argument in the GOAT debate. It's between the two of them. I think Henry was the better player of the two when looking at their best Premier League seasons only, but Ronaldo obviously surpassed Henry's top level later on at Real Madrid. If I'm going to be unbiased I think it has to be Henry.

For me "greatest" and "best" are two different things. Greatness factors in legacy and longevity to a larger extent. Shearer, Cantona and Rooney have more of an argument in that respect, but none of them got close to the peak level of Henry and Ronaldo. Salah and Suarez are arguably closest two those two if you consider a player's absolute best season only.
Between Salah and Ronaldo I would say the opposite. If you look at best season Vs best, Ronaldo can win, but as like this video does, top 3 seasons, then I think Salah wins.
 
The list;

1 - Thierry Henry

2 - Mo Salah

3 - Cristiano Ronaldo

4 - Eric Cantona

5 - Didier Drogba

6 - Wayne Rooney

7 - Alan Shearer

8 - Eden Hazard

9 - Dennis Bergkamp

10 - Gareth Bale
 
My thoughts;

1) You can’t leave out Aguero surely
2) Drogba at 5 is wrong
3) Bale also feels wrong
4) Van Persie is another big miss, especially when you see the other names
 
Trash list. Any top ten pl forwards list without Andy Cole can be immediately dismissed.
Eh?

Henry, Salah, Shearer, Drogba, Rooney, Ronaldo, Aguero, Suarez, Kane, Van Persie.

Really easy list of ten forwards clearly better than Cole.

Didn't even have to dip into the likes of Owen, Fowler, Yorke, Tevez, Bergkamp, Nistelroy, Cantona, Torres, Hasselbaink and Zola to complete the set, but that's ten more who were better than Andy Cole.
 
The list;

1 - Thierry Henry

2 - Mo Salah

3 - Cristiano Ronaldo

4 - Eric Cantona

5 - Didier Drogba

6 - Wayne Rooney

7 - Alan Shearer

8 - Eden Hazard

9 - Dennis Bergkamp

10 - Gareth Bale
I haven’t watched it yet but I assume that this is their list? How can Drogba be higher than Rooney & Shearer… even overall but especially in the league where he was famously inconsistent season after season (unlike cup competitions). Even Agüero should be ahead of him on merit. And I like Drogba a lot!
 
Eh?

Henry, Salah, Shearer, Drogba, Rooney, Ronaldo, Aguero, Suarez, Kane, Van Persie.

Really easy list of ten forwards clearly better than Cole.

Didn't even have to dip into the likes of Owen, Fowler, Yorke, Tevez, Bergkamp, Nistelroy, Cantona, Torres, Hasselbaink and Zola to complete the set, but that's ten more who were better than Andy Cole.
Clearly better in what? Owen and fowler better than Andy Cole only in a dippers universe. Hasselbaink and Zola ? Are you on crack?
 
I haven’t watched it yet but I assume that this is their list? How can Drogba be higher than Rooney & Shearer… even overall but especially in the league where he was famously inconsistent season after season (unlike cup competitions). Even Agüero should be ahead of him on merit. And I like Drogba a lot!

The criteria they set was they picked the best 3 year period for each player rather than factoring longevity, which probably skews the list quite a bit. Their thinking was, the United and City players whose teams dominated their respective eras would all be in the top 10. They assigned a value to each achievement like title win, POTY winner, cup winner etc and then tallied up everyone’s total points.

I also believe they made an error as they gave Drogba 2 league titles for the period they chose for him, 2009-2012, when Chelsea only won the league once.
 
Eh?

Henry, Salah, Shearer, Drogba, Rooney, Ronaldo, Aguero, Suarez, Kane, Van Persie.

Really easy list of ten forwards clearly better than Cole.

Didn't even have to dip into the likes of Owen, Fowler, Yorke, Tevez, Bergkamp, Nistelroy, Cantona, Torres, Hasselbaink and Zola to complete the set, but that's ten more who were better than Andy Cole.
I would have Cole ahead of RVP. Torres, Yorke, fowler, Owen & hasselbaink, they where all good players but Cole out did them all.

Bergkamp, Zola & Cantona where much more than how many goals/assists they made, they where different gravy as footballers than most listed here.

So yes I agree Cole doesn't make top 10 but you're very much under rating how good Cole was.
 
The criteria they set was they picked the best 3 year period for each player rather than factoring longevity, which probably skews the list quite a bit. Their thinking was, the United and City players whose teams dominated their respective eras would all be in the top 10. They assigned a value to each achievement like title win, POTY winner, cup winner etc and then tallied up everyone’s total points.

I also believe they made an error as they gave Drogba 2 league titles for the period they chose for him, 2009-2012, when Chelsea only won the league once.
I hate how sky and the like make up some formula and some arbitrary points system and try and tell us what to think.

My last post was me disagreeing with another poster with my opinion, but I'm not going to post a YouTube video saying I am right. It's my opinion and I put my opinion that the poster I quoted underrated Cole.

But sky try to put across a fact when it's another opinion piece
 
My thoughts;

1) You can’t leave out Aguero surely
2) Drogba at 5 is wrong
3) Bale also feels wrong
4) Van Persie is another big miss, especially when you see the other names
I don't think VP gets close, drogba is a bit high. If I remember correctly they said he was very impactful in the big games.

It's all based off their best 3 seasons.
 
Between Salah and Ronaldo I would say the opposite. If you look at best season Vs best, Ronaldo can win, but as like this video does, top 3 seasons, then I think Salah wins.
It's close, but it's Ronaldo for me over three consecutive years as well. In his last three seasons he won the league three years on the bounce, plus a Champions League, and his goal output was near identical to Salah's while being a more complete all-round attacking threat.
 
It's close, but it's Ronaldo for me over three consecutive years as well. In his last three seasons he won the league three years on the bounce, plus a Champions League, and his goal output was near identical to Salah's while being a more complete all-round attacking threat.
I think Salah is way more all-round.
 
The list;

1 - Thierry Henry

2 - Mo Salah

3 - Cristiano Ronaldo

4 - Eric Cantona

5 - Didier Drogba

6 - Wayne Rooney

7 - Alan Shearer

8 - Eden Hazard

9 - Dennis Bergkamp

10 - Gareth Bale
Bergkamp and Bale stick out like a sore thumb there I think. How is Aguero not on this list? Kane as well although he doesn’t have the team accomplishments.

Drogba being higher than Rooney is a joke.