I have to apologise for arguing with you on that one, please forgive me mate..
All's forgiven on that front
I had forgotten that Longstaff was ever a thing. In fairness, watching Fellaini lumber around midfield, anyone would have been an upgrade.
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All's forgiven on that front
I had forgotten that Longstaff was ever a thing. In fairness, watching Fellaini lumber around midfield, anyone would have been an upgrade.
It’s a numbers game. Buy enough, and a few will stick. The chances of this lad making it are less than 50/50, he probably won’t.
however, we have to take a few punts like these.
however, we have to take a few punts like these.
Muppet season early? Good. I agree. Destined to be legendary
I love signings like this. Rather sign 10 guys like Caicedo, Pellestri and Diabllo, and only 2 or 3 of them pan out, then one Jadon Sancho for 120 euros.
This term was probably the most witless self-deprecation cringe attempt I've seen. Nowhere near worthy of being called a Muppet. I miss Plechazunga.
Welcome to Manchester United, Moyes Caicedo.
Thanks brother, I usually focus on Brazil, Argentina, Colombia and Uruguay but didn’t start following Ecuador until last year, when IDV (Caicedo’s club) appointed Miguel Angel Ramirez as head coach. He was of interest to me because he spent quite a few years at Qatar’s Aspire Academy, which is one of the best sports institutions here in our neck of the woods. He was part of the very successful Spanish contingent of coaches at the Academy, one of which was Felix Sanchez who ended up winning the Asian Cup with the Qatar NT, playing very attractive football with domestic youngsters and destroying the bigger Asian national teams on the way (Saudi, Korea, Japan) and they also spanked us 4-0 in our own backyard. Ramirez actually worked with Sanchez for a few years before that as both were involved in coaching Qatar’s youth teams.
IDV is a very small club in Ecuador that does not even have a permanent home stadium and they are mostly focused on bringing through young players from their youth system. Ramirez got the job there (which is when I started watching them) and ended up winning the Sudamericana (Europa League in South America) last year which was quite a shock for many in SA. They then put up a good fight in this year’s Libertadores and slapped the champions Flamengo 5-0 in the groups (Moises scored and assisted). Dominated Nacional but got knocked out on pens. Coincidentally, Moises was injured during the 2 legs.
In general, he really made his breakthrough earlier this year and Ramirez started to trust him as he became a major part of the side and then the national team. I won’t say he’s 100% going to make it in Europe but you would struggle to find a more talented youngster on that continent at the moment (Gabriel Veron arguably the only one more talented, Pedro De La Vega/Zaracho/Almada are close but not better).
As I said earlier in the thread, great move because the risk is low and reward potentially very high.
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We're pooling them talents inside our Xmas sack.
Thanks for the info brother it's much appreciated.
Very very excited about this signing.
Will probably sound way too optimistic but feck it, I suspect he'll be starting league games before seasons end.
Just a growing feeling I have the more I read about him
This is more like it, good value with talent. Dreams of playing for United, perfect pogba replacement.
Excited. Would be great to get him in January with Diallo.
Excited. Would be great to get him in January with Diallo.
I'm excited that he's impressed in World Cup qualifiers, and not just some run-of-the-mill international friendlies which are afterthoughts after its over and done with.
Sell Pogba now. Sell him to Chinese league.
Will probably sound way too optimistic but feck it, I suspect he'll be starting league games before seasons end.
Just a growing feeling I have the more I read about him
He is a highly rated young international player! If we sell Pogba in January, he might start games earlier. If not he will still at least get cup games sooner rather than later.
Great to see all the positivity in tgos thread from most of the CAF. I just hope we aren't setting expectations so high that in a years time he receives Dan James level of stick. These young players need time to develop and learn their trade. Can we all give them them a bit of leeway...
Don't think we will see an awful lot of him this season.
Ole isn't going to play him ahead of any of the 5 or 6 mids we currently got. Not yet anyway. I suspect he will play with the 23's mostly before possibly getting his chance next season.
Looks an exciting prospect though for sure if it all goes through smoothly.
Ole isn't going to play him ahead of any of the 5 or 6 mids we currently got. Not yet anyway. I suspect he will play with the 23's mostly before possibly getting his chance next season.
Looks an exciting prospect though for sure if it all goes through smoothly.
Next Under 23's game is gonna have 2 billion viewers worldwide.
If he goes in to the U21s, that’ll be a ridiculous team with Pellestri, Hannibal and Diallo too!
We're taking on the Dortmund model now. That's great - it just means we've dropped our ego that United academy players are cream of the crop. We had a good run in the early 90s but haven't produced world-class talent since then. Time to go the Dortmund way.
Sorry how many of these youngsters have worked?
You are always a ray of sunshine
So what do you consider Pogba, Greenwood, and Rashford?
You are the best when it comes to giving proper answers. Truly appreciate that
Very informative. Really appreciate it. Coming from a person who has hardly seen one Copa Libertadores in last 10 year; Do you think he can stand the fast pace of English football. Because South Americans usually like time on the ball.
I completely agree although with Dan James the bar becomes quite low
If first team players show the lack of potential Daniel James has they should be criticized. If you want to remain a big club that's how it should be. At the very least the quality should be evident even if peformances are not yet up to scratch.
Erm...are we allowed to say well done Woodie? This is some top notch business here, for the price of one of Longstaff's boots! If he hits the ground running (and Diallo too), that's so much money saved, and no need for Camavinga, Zakaria, Sancho et al. Woodie can focus on getting us Grealish with you-know-who's money. We'll be the best team in the land next season!
I actually think time on the ball won’t be an issue - some of the South American leagues/continental tournaments are brutal when it comes to that. I mean Pogba is probably among the worst at that and he’s French!
If he has any issues it will likely be to do with settling in and decision-making, but I’m confident he’ll do well on the latter point as it’s one of the main reasons he’s so highly-rated: rarely do you get young talents showing good decision-making consistently at a young age.
I cant remember being so excited about a player from only watching his youtube compilations, kid seems a gem.
If we get him, and dump Pogba in the summer, then next year that's Fred, McT, Caicedo, Matic and Garner(?) (and vdB) for two spots. I guess Matic could go in the summer as well.
That's nice to hear. All his highlights videos seemed to show that. Combative, congested.
It seems the overwhelming majority are thinking of him as a DM, but he not only seems to get forward an awful lot, he's really good at it. Do you have any thoughts on his position/role?
That's nice to hear. All his highlights videos seemed to show that. Combative, congested.
It seems the overwhelming majority are thinking of him as a DM, but he not only seems to get forward an awful lot, he's really good at it. Do you have any thoughts on his position/role?
I actually feel he can give us a lot of options if he is really what we think he is. He can play a role like Fred to partner another tall player. He can also play alongside Fred and VDB to for a three-men midfield, just imagine how it works. Anyone can go forward with license and even penetrate into box. They can also easily help the left or right. Yes, 433 or 4312. In case of 433, we can give Bruno a rest. He badly needs it.
Okay, I know how this forum is with things like this so I’ll start with this caveat: I’m not saying he has the same potential/quality as the players in the following post, I’m simply drawing similarities between their styles of play.
He really is an all-rounder; the way I would put it is he’s in the Pogba/Camavinga mould - he’s very good at most aspects of midfield play but probably is slightly more defensively-inclined than the other two. I’d be reluctant to define a specific role for him at the moment because that would be limiting him given what he’s already shown at a young age but what I will say is he definitely isn’t just a Kante.
I reckon he'll take a season to bed in like Fred did. Big jump from where he's been playing to Premier League level. That being said he looks a good prospect.
Well there's a difference between featuring for Peñarol and dominating Uruguay and Colombia's national team midfields.
He can be a rotating option in a few months my guess.
Hopefully the Utd journos like Ducker will also pick up on this one soon
Is he good?
Well Vickery who knows his onions when it comes to South American football recently described him as a magnificent prospect/wonderful central midfielder who is the real deal so make your own mind up
I've read somewhere he wanted reassurances he's going into the first team or thereabouts, not the youth setup. Encouraging, all the small signals about him are very positive.
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