He’s exceptional. Looks even better than he did for Brighton, and he was great for them.He's been the best central midfielder in the PL this season and I don't think it's particularly close. Absolutely unbelievable how good he is and he only just turned 23.
The summer you signed him we had a discussion about his passing ability, has he since proven to have that passing ability to dictate tempo from deep?He's been the best central midfielder in the PL this season and I don't think it's particularly close. Absolutely unbelievable how good he is and he only just turned 23.
I think so. Palmer being the 10 instead of Gallagher has helped him massively as Palmer's off-ball movement is orders of magnitude better and he helps create passing angles by dragging defenders out of position.The summer you signed him we had a discussion about his passing ability, has he since proven to have that passing ability to dictate tempo from deep?
Lucky!I think so. Palmer being the 10 instead of Gallagher has helped him massively as Palmer's off-ball movement is orders of magnitude better and he helps create passing angles by dragging defenders out of position.
Caicedo is also extremely comfortable receiving on the half turn and is a wonderful one-touch player when receiving under pressure. Honestly feels like there are no holes to his game whatsoever - having Lavia to sit a bit deeper while Caicedo pushes up to press feels like an ideal partnership.
What will happen then to Enzo?I think so. Palmer being the 10 instead of Gallagher has helped him massively as Palmer's off-ball movement is orders of magnitude better and he helps create passing angles by dragging defenders out of position.
Caicedo is also extremely comfortable receiving on the half turn and is a wonderful one-touch player when receiving under pressure. Honestly feels like there are no holes to his game whatsoever - having Lavia to sit a bit deeper while Caicedo pushes up to press feels like an ideal partnership.
Yep Gravenberch deserves many plaudits as well, especially given he's moved from being an 8 to a 6. That said, he does get to play in front of a far far far better central spine than Caicedo - at times it feels like Caicedo is the only thing holding Chelsea together as a (semi-)cohesive unit.He’s exceptional. Looks even better than he did for Brighton, and he was great for them.
Best in PL alongside Gravenberch for me so far.
Real Madrid have a disastrous season and decide he's the natural Kroos replacement?What will happen then to Enzo?
Who cares how much he cost? He was beyond a shadow of a doubt the best player on the pitch today.Good player but people are going way over the top. Lets not forget he cost 100m's....
Never said he wasn't and that's a low bar anyway. Actually how much a player cost is very relevant.....I guess you have the same view about how much Anthony costs?Who cares how much he cost? He was beyond a shadow of a doubt the best player on the pitch today.
Hmm? Surely you can see the difference between an expensive player being productive on the pitch and an expensive player not being brought on because he's a complete liability? It's a very odd parallel to draw in the Caicedo thread.Never said he wasn't and that's a low bar anyway. Actually how much a player cost is very relevant.....I guess you have the same view about how much Anthony costs?
I rather have him for 100M than spending 140M on Antony+MountGood player but people are going way over the top. Lets not forget he cost 100m's....
Never said he wasn't and that's a low bar anyway. Actually how much a player cost is very relevant.....I guess you have the same view about how much Anthony costs?
When you look at players that have gone for similar figures, which players genuinely appear worth that fee?Never said he wasn't and that's a low bar anyway. Actually how much a player cost is very relevant.....I guess you have the same view about how much Anthony costs?
Not sure I even agree with this at this point mate!But Antony is an average player even if he cost £20m. The players are who they are regardless of whether they were a waste of money or not. Would you be satisfied with Antony at United with the exact same performances but he cost £20m? I suppose you wouldn’t be apoplectic about his fee but you’d still be very disappointed with the quality of player you have.
Caicedo was an overpay. There’s no much we can do about the fee. We can discuss the player and his quality though, for that the fee is utterly irrelevant, unless the only point you’re interested in making is that he isn’t worth £115m.
Not sure I even agree with this at this point mate!
Considering how vital he is to our midfield actually functioning at this point I feel he's pretty much priceless. Very stark contrast in how we played in the two Newcastle matches this past week and for me that was mostly down to his absence.I think it’s hard for any player to live up to a £115m price tag. It’s nothing against Caicedo but I’d feel that way if we had spent it on Vini or Mbappe too. He’s playing at a such a good level consistently now that his fee is hardly mentioned anymore, which is brilliant but unfortunately whether I feel the fee was justified or not is rather unfairly tied to team achievements.
Considering how vital he is to our midfield actually functioning at this point I feel he's pretty much priceless. Very stark contrast in how we played in the two Newcastle matches this past week and for me that was mostly down to his absence.
Yeah but it was too chaotic; we didn't have the usual level of control on the match.I don’t actually think we were particularly bad in the cup vs Newcastle outside of a mad 10 minute spell where we couldn’t deal with their energy and high press. Both goals conceded were stupid errors. We were pretty comfortable outside that brief crazy spell. We played well enough and created enough to get something from the game.
If we had gotten him 4 years ago, this place would have gone overboard about how shite he is.How much could we have gotten him for if we had football people who could be bothered reading and making calls?
He was my no.1 as well. And Lavia was a close second. And that was before there were any links at all. When we got both I nearly had a muppet stroke. The season before he signed I thought he was the 2nd best DM in the league after Rodri (watched a ton of Brighton that season).He is so, so good. He was my dream signing, and honestly I was a little bit relieved he was poor for Chelsea initially. Inevitably, he proved me wrong and what a signing he is turning out to be. Don't really care much for the fee. We paid a bit more for Antony and Zirkzee, and look at them. Some players are just worth paying a lot of money for.
Was great in the Copa America and has brought that form back to Chelsea this season. Top DM
