I’m joking bud, I’m well aware of the issues that stopped us in that deal. I was just making fun of that repeat question when the answer is in this very thread
Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea
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"My dream is to play for Manchester United," Caicedo said last year, speaking to The Athletic. "Antonio Valencia is an example to follow.
"With his strength and dedication, he was able to get to that level. That motivates me to keep working hard and do the right things."
"With his strength and dedication, he was able to get to that level. That motivates me to keep working hard and do the right things."
Ah okay. We could have had Enzo last summer for buttons too.
I could be wrong, but I thought we didn’t sign him because of third party ownership. It’s why rat bastard and mascherano went to west ham because the big clubs didn’t want to risk it despite their talent.
Dont mind if chelsea or arsenal sign him in this window. Hopefully that means less competition from one of them in the summer for enzo/rice/fdj/bellingham etc
Given his price I think Onana at Everton represents better value. He has great potential
Apparently there were up to three different parts claiming they own him, or at least part of him, as well as multiple agents. At the end we decided he wasn't worth the fuss. Brighton managed to sign him because they had sign a player from Independiente del Valle before.
Mismanagement as per under the whole hierarchy of that era but fans will claim it was too difficult for us to do something Brighton managed to do.
Which player are we talking about here?
Not speaking about the specific case.
However there is no right or wrong decision.
Clubs who suspend players with pay are not doing so from a moral high ground. They are doing so because they've determined that the benefit of using the player is not worth the public outcry and negative attention.
There are many examples in US sports of lesser profile players getting cut as soon as an arrest is publicized, while world class players are kept until much later in the process.
With regards to Arsenal, they've made the determination that giving into public opinion (which is fickle and has moved on, because that's what the public does) is not worth results on the pitch.
There is no moral high ground in deciding to suspend someone not yet found guilty of a criminal offense. And while every person is free to think what they want about what his fate should be, a private organization is free to do what they want with an employee under contract who is still innocent in the eyes of the law.
No one, if you say a name Niall will get arrested for libel
Completely agree, Arsenal have handled it very, very poorly imo.
What you call when people get together at someone's house, blast music and drink a lot.
I really don't mind losing this one to Arsenal. 90m is crazy money for a player who's profile is not that difficult to find. Enzo is the profile Chelsea needs in our midfield not Caicedo. We can just extend Kante or activate Zakaria's option if need be.
I know fella
Oh. Key player then
"My dream is to play for Barcelona" Caicedo said last year (probably).
“Back in my home country we love Barcelona so much we also have a club named Barcelona. It’s every boys dream”.
Two posts in a row about how a player doesn't want to join United. Give it a rest.
He's a good player but people seem to be overhyping him a bit too much over here.
If we pull this off it would be massive. It would fill the gaping hole that is exposed with no Xhaka or Partey, its probably the only position we are not well covered in.
Would also add another high-quality youngster to a team already bristled with top young talent.
Would also add another high-quality youngster to a team already bristled with top young talent.
It wasn't Antonio Valencia who tipped us off about Caicedo. Valencia made comments once United's interest became known in South America, and Ecuador in particular regarding Caicedo. And he was then asked about the player and all he said was something along the lines of, he'd like to see a fellow Ecuadorian representing United and hoped the move came to fruition. That then turned into a headline that Valencia has recommended Caicedo to United.
We couldn't sign him because it was said that their was multiple agents involved in the deal. And Matt Judge who was the head of transfer negotiations at the time didn't proceed with the deal. But if your head of South American scouting is sold on the player and that is reciprocated by the head of global scouting, then you should pull out the stops and back your scouts.
Brighton did end up signing him and it was said that due to Brighton having had previous dealings with the club and agents in question, they managed to sign the player. And it's not a surprise that Brighton managed to sign the player because they cast their net far and wide and South America is a particular target for them. So a club who targets South American players, is always going to have a advantage due to the experience they will garner in the region. And South America in particular is a continent that is historically a hot-bed for some of the best talent in the world.
I was listening to a podcast where the discussion was centred around Real Madrid and their recruitment of young South American players. And it was said that Real Madrid have a advantage in that region because their head of scouting grew up in South America and over the years has built up relationships with agents, players and the family of those players in South America
And that scout is someone that goes by the name of Juni Calafat. And he's worked his way up at Real Madrid from the youth development side since 2013, and is currently their head of recruitment.
It was reported in April 2022, that John Murtough had replaced the out-going heads of scouting with a Argentine head scout by the name of Jose Mayorga. There isn't alot of information about Mayorga, but what we do know is that he's got a long history of being a scout in South America. And it'll be interesting to see what Mayorga will conjure up now that he's in a position of authority at the top of the scouting pyramid.
We couldn't sign him because it was said that their was multiple agents involved in the deal. And Matt Judge who was the head of transfer negotiations at the time didn't proceed with the deal. But if your head of South American scouting is sold on the player and that is reciprocated by the head of global scouting, then you should pull out the stops and back your scouts.
Brighton did end up signing him and it was said that due to Brighton having had previous dealings with the club and agents in question, they managed to sign the player. And it's not a surprise that Brighton managed to sign the player because they cast their net far and wide and South America is a particular target for them. So a club who targets South American players, is always going to have a advantage due to the experience they will garner in the region. And South America in particular is a continent that is historically a hot-bed for some of the best talent in the world.
I was listening to a podcast where the discussion was centred around Real Madrid and their recruitment of young South American players. And it was said that Real Madrid have a advantage in that region because their head of scouting grew up in South America and over the years has built up relationships with agents, players and the family of those players in South America
And that scout is someone that goes by the name of Juni Calafat. And he's worked his way up at Real Madrid from the youth development side since 2013, and is currently their head of recruitment.
It was reported in April 2022, that John Murtough had replaced the out-going heads of scouting with a Argentine head scout by the name of Jose Mayorga. There isn't alot of information about Mayorga, but what we do know is that he's got a long history of being a scout in South America. And it'll be interesting to see what Mayorga will conjure up now that he's in a position of authority at the top of the scouting pyramid.
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With the Eriksen injury, can we spend some money please?
Good post thanks for that
it should be threadmarked before the next 100 posters come in and ask why didn’t we sign him
As much as we dislike Woodward, Matt Judge was equally incompetent and damaging to the club.
Definitely sounds like he is leaving.
There's not really a way back for him now, even if he didn't leave I don't think De Zerbi would pick him. I do wonder why it's so important for Caicedo to leave now and not just wait a few months. I suppose he could just want to qualify for a potential winners' medal with Arsenal.
Queue Chelsea signing him along with Enzo..
This has everything for a chelsea signing.
Arsenal and Chelsea getting their spending in before the new FFP kicks in
Not sure about this journos credibility.
It's on Twitter so it must be true. That's the logic used on here at least.
It's really strange to allow a player to leave with no chance to get players in instead.
It might very well be but I'm just not going to believe it unless someone tells me this guy is tier 1 or something.
Not like we should care because an incompetent feck named Matt Judge decided it was too much work to get this guy in for 5m whereas smaller clubs like Brighton with all their "experience" were able to. Makes me wanna puke.
He said 'Here we go' what more do you want.
From the same guy who brought us this scoop:
It's literally just some dude who has thought "Well, Romano seems to be making good money making shit up on twitter, why not me?" right down to using the stupid fecking catchphrase.
Exactly the same credibility as a random caf poster.
We should bid for him.
Should have took him before Brighton
he’s a good player but he’s not 70m good.
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