[Devil may care]

Some decent threaded balls but he needs more protection next to him against teams that break with pace.

 

[a_devil_inside]

I thought he looked the only player looking to play it forward all the time, at least he tried

 

[Adam-Utd]

He looked a little rusty at first but worked well into the game, and helped us control the match. Had zero forward runners to pick out so was limited to tame passes into feet, but overall we definitely needed him back.

 

[DanNistelrooy]

Terrible first half but one of our better players in the 2nd. Think it would have made more sense to ease him in from the bench

 

[ZDwyr]

He looked a little rusty at first but worked well into the game, and helped us control the match. Had zero forward runners to pick out so was limited to tame passes into feet, but overall we definitely needed him back.

Agree. He was a lot better after a shaky start. Surprised he played the full game after coming back from an injury though.

 

[Adisa]

Much better second half.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Agree. He was a lot better after a shaky start. Surprised he played the full game after coming back from an injury though.

Don't think we had many options, schneiderlin could have come in but he wouldn't have offered much in the forward passing stakes, it was quite a slow tempo all game so I think that helped keep his legs really.

 

[Mutter Merkel]

Very poor first half. A good second half.

 

[Barca84]

Needs us to be in control of games to have the necessary time and space to be effective. It's always been his problem because he simply does not have the ability to create time and space for himself and that's what has kept him a level below the best. He needs an absolute fecking age on the ball.

Can't have him here beyond this season and if we are injury free he shouldn't be starting.

 

[Minimalist]

Thought he was awful today. Plenty of forward passes to please some but nearly all of them pointless hospital passes. Offers feck all protection as well.

Looked completely fried by the end to boot.

He's done.

 

[U99ted]

Thought he did well when he came on.

 

[Devil may care]

I thought he added some urgency to our play, the problem is he really needs the 2 man protection in there these days, the double pivot leaves him much to exposed to any counters.

 

[acnumber9]

Thought he was awful today. Plenty of forward passes to please some but nearly all of them pointless hospital passes. Offers feck all protection as well.

Looked completely fried by the end to boot.

He's done.

He's having a stop start season but I'd have his quick passes into the forwards above Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin's backward passing any day.

 

[m1y2]

Thought he was awful today. Plenty of forward passes to please some but nearly all of them pointless hospital passes. Offers feck all protection as well.

Looked completely fried by the end to boot.

He's done.

its harsh on him, he was trying to be positive, thats a plus from me, but that should come from the whole team... but its carricks mobility which has been a problem last couple of years, 31 yo sweinsteigger who feels at times like 38 yo next is to him not helping at all...

anyways hard to blame individuals , we have seen that we can play really good stuff if we want but we are not doing it because of managers negative tactic.. hes the main problem...

 

[Annihilate Now!]

He was miles better then Bastian or Morgan

 

[Golden Nugget]

Thought he was awful today. Plenty of forward passes to please some but nearly all of them pointless hospital passes. Offers feck all protection as well.

Looked completely fried by the end to boot.

He's done.

That's rubbish. Not every ball came off yes, but some of them were down to mis-passing. Added urgency when United needed to, to please "some"? Well that includes me as I'm sick to death of this zombie passing. Look how many chances United had compared to West Ham in the first half

 

[Zoo]

At least he understands the problem..

 

[limerickcitykid]

Aye, who wants penetrative passes anyway.

 

[SkeppyRed]

Our best passer. Should play everyweek. Maybe give Swcheinsteiger a more advanced role.

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

His passing is good, but when harried, he turns to jelly and the opposition win the ball back with ease. Off the ball, players seem to walk through him and he's not mobile enough to recover.

His forward passing is among the best in the squad, along with Blind, but he looks so easy to win the ball from or take on.

 

[Amar__]

Thought he was awful today. Plenty of forward passes to please some but nearly all of them pointless hospital passes. Offers feck all protection as well.

Looked completely fried by the end to boot.

He's done.

If he looks done then I worry about Schneiderlin.

 

[Hed Zitin]

Forward passes into the front men. The other CM's need to wake up and observe that.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

We have no one in our midfield that can play those penetrative passes into the front men. Every time he did that, there was danger. I think this is why we need to play with two wingers who hug the touchline. It will stretch teams and allow Carrick to find more of those passes to the attacking midfielder and forward.

 

[Devil may care]

His passing is good, but when harried, he turns to jelly and the opposition win the ball back with ease. Off the ball, players seem to walk through him and he's not mobile enough to recover.

His forward passing is among the best in the squad, along with Blind, but he looks so easy to win the ball from or take on.

This is it, he's still our best passer but he really struggles out of possession these days, we need to get a CM that does what he does on the ball but is about 10 years younger.

 

[Devil may care]

We have no one in our midfield that can play those penetrative passes into the front men. Every time he did that, there was danger. I think this is why we need to play with two wingers who hug the touchline. It will stretch teams and allow Carrick to find more of those passes to the attacking midfielder and forward.

Those type of wingers are dated and offer no goal threat, the fullbacks need to take up that wider slack in modern football.

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

His thread quiet again. He was class as usual. He showed urgency and wanted to attack every time he got the ball.

Yes he left us exposed a few times but he was trying to score. We were at Old Trafford.

he is better than BFS and still our best midfielder. Id like to see him with Herrera and Morgan.

 

[Insanity]

His thread quiet again. He was class as usual. He showed urgency and wanted to attack every time he got the ball.

Yes he left us exposed a few times but he was trying to score. We were at Old Trafford.

he is better than BFS and still our best midfielder. Id like to see him with Herrera and Morgan.

That he is.

I thought the idea behind getting Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin was to rotate Carrick with Schweini and then play Herrera & Schneiderlin on either side of them in a 433, with those guys taking up the box to box roles. Still would prefer that midfield combination instead of the way we set up currently in a 4231.

 

[Varun]

His thread quiet again. He was class as usual. He showed urgency and wanted to attack every time he got the ball.

Yes he left us exposed a few times but he was trying to score. We were at Old Trafford.

he is better than BFS and still our best midfielder. Id like to see him with Herrera and Morgan.

Still our best CM when it comes to passing, be it the tempo or range of it. BFS's mobility makes him more suited to play the midfielder who supports the attack though.

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

Still our best CM when it comes to passing, be it the tempo or range of it. BFS's mobility makes him more suited to play the midfielder who supports the attack though.

I agree and id like to see BFS deployed further forward when Herrera isnt playing.

 

[RedMachine03]

 

[kps88]

That was great. Going to listen to the Neville and Fletcher ones later too.

 

[Beachryan]

This is awesome. Funny to hear him speak about 'Arry and how important it is to let young players make mistakes, instead of punishing them and discouraging them from trying things. Can't imagine who he means.

 

[ravelston]

I've been among Carrick's biggest supporters since he came to OT. I've always valued him highly - until this year. The deterioration in his play has been dramatic. A lot of it is probably system related, but in the context of that system he's been positionally poor. Add that to a lack of speed (he's only just faster that Mata - which makes him glacial) and passing that is way below his previous level and he's almost unrecognisable as the Carrick we know and (in my case) love. It's become a problem that he and Mata are slowing our transition game to the point that the opposition have plenty of time to reorganise when they lose possession.

 

[RU Devil]

His thread quiet again. He was class as usual. He showed urgency and wanted to attack every time he got the ball.

Yes he left us exposed a few times but he was trying to score. We were at Old Trafford.

he is better than BFS and still our best midfielder. Id like to see him with Herrera and Morgan.

Yeah, shocking the difference when he is in. No one can ping in the passes into the middle like he can, it seems. BFS is more likely to try penetrating via pass & move or even trying to dribble through, but he doesn't have the pace anymore to be as effective as previously, while Schneiderlin seems to favor the diagonal to the corners (which he is effective at), but then the move tends to die there as we're less able (or less willing) to get a good cross in. TBH, if it was Rooney or Mata who was the target of some of those passes, we'd probably have been able to nick a goal, but it was Fellaini. Granted, he did well, but he turns like a battleship and we needed a cutter.

Wish Ander was available tomorrow, but we're likely to see Carrick & BFS, maybe teamed with Fellaini, but I wish we'd put Mata in the #10 hole, while using Memphis & Lingard on the wings.

 

[Devil may care]

Those that said he was on the bench to replace Schweini when he ran out of steam were spot on, but I think he should have been on at half time.

 

[drdoityourself]

He was marking Naldo for the winner, that's the problem with him, he isn't aggressive enough. There was no attempt to hold him back, no force. Their most dangerous player on set pieces had a free run to the ball. 5 mins to go and we need a winner he's strolling around waiting for our fullback to take a throw in, no urgency.
His forward passing, when he's interested in playing them are a real strength, but his presence in midfield isn't aggressive enough and for me he just doesn't exude that winning spirit a senior player and a midfielder at United should have.

 

[Minimalist]

He's such a weak, petal of a player and always has been. His marking for the third is just Carrick all over.

I'm sorry but stuff like that really pisses me off. I don't really buy into the 'chest beating' stuff that some others desire but when defending I do expect players to put themselves properly to the task and do everything they can to defend properly.

It's not good enough. He was doing it in 2010 (pathetic closing down of Robben) and he's still a spineless git when it comes to defending.

 

[DFreshKing]

LVG's fault Carrick can't mark at corners. Imagine if that was Fellaini - he still got more abuse for the game than Carrick even though he won a vital header for a goal whereas wonderbread wanders of his man 5 minutes from the end on a corner.

Terrible from a senior pro.

 

[Tyrion]

Anyone else think he's played really well? Actually looked to pass it forward which improved things.

 

[Minimalist]

Anyone else think he's played really well? Actually looked to pass it forward which improved things.

Yup, he's looked vastly improved.

He's getting time though so he should look more comfortable. Fellaini taking some attention and Bournemouth aren't pressing him.