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Shaw fancies him rotten.

I can't get over how much of a tank he is yet so quick. His shoulders are massive.
Calves too...

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Compared to Blind at least.
 
Why do you say that? Just wondering as he's been decent so far in pre season and may get more opportunities in the final two games.
I think a fair few on here see hima as just a promising young player for now, when in reality, he's far more proven and already quite a good player who is a starter for the national team. No reason why he won't be a starter here. In fact, even if he's still got a lot of developing to do, the qualities he possesses are exactly what our team lacks and doesn't have in anyone else, that's why I'd say if fit, he'll be starting the majority of our games. Even if it was only the Dutch league, the only other player in our squad to have ever had a more productive season then memphis last season was rooney. So for that, and him being physically a tank already, he'll be first choice.
 
I want to see what he can do on the wing, not this second striker nonsense.
 
He looks incredibly talented, but doesn't look like a #10 in the slightest.

I hope this is just an experiment, and he's shifted to the wing pronto.
This for me too.

He keeps coming in and dropping deep. Some of that might be down to space from an still sorting midfield, but it really cuts down on the threat he poses.
 
Plus Shaw and him have games naturally suited to one another. Depay cutting in and taking defenders on with trickery and Shaw bursting on the outside.

Either that or him and Rooney forge a partnership up front.
 
Plus Shaw and him have games naturally suited to one another. Depay cutting in and taking defenders on with trickery and Shaw bursting on the outside.

Either that or him and Rooney forge a partnership up front.

I've yet to see Shaw bursting on the outside (overlapping) with pace, timing and regularity! I hope your right though or he learns this atleast.
 
I've yet to see Shaw bursting on the outside (overlapping) with pace, timing and regularity! I hope your right though or he learns this atleast.

He did it quite a bit vs Chelsea. I think he has it in him, just didn't have a great season last year
 
Why do you say that? Just wondering as he's been decent so far in pre season and may get more opportunities in the final two games.
Firstly, I doubt we will be playing this formation as it suits nobody in our team. I’m sure van Gaal will go with some kind of 4-3-3. In that case there will only be place for him on the wings, and I doubt LvG will be tinkering with Young/Mata who both had good seasons and were very important for us in the second part of the season. Secondly, I doubt he will be putting so much pressure on the kid. He did brilliantly in dutch league but he will need some time to adjust to this league and more importantly van Gaal philosophy. I know you lot rate him very high but I suppose van Gaal will continue playing the same front 3 that worked last season, we already have a lot of new players in midfield and defence that I guess will be immediate starters.

Wait and see obviously, but I’m pretty sure I will be proven right

He's very likely to start the game against Spurs. LVG said he will most likely go with tomorrow's lineup for the new season and apparently during today's training session Shaw, Darmian, Jones, Blind; Schneiderlin, Carrick; Mata, Young, Depay and Rooney were training together.
I don't believe him then. You think he will go with Blind as CB and Carrick in midfield two? I doubt it.
 
Firstly, I doubt we will be playing this formation as it suits nobody in our team. I’m sure van Gaal will go with some kind of 4-3-3. In that case there will only be place for him on the wings, and I doubt LvG will be tinkering with Young/Mata who both had good seasons and were very important for us in the second part of the season. Secondly, I doubt he will be putting so much pressure on the kid. He did brilliantly in dutch league but he will need some time to adjust to this league and more importantly van Gaal philosophy. I know you lot rate him very high but I suppose van Gaal will continue playing the same front 3 that worked last season, we already have a lot of new players in midfield and defence that I guess will be immediate starters.

Wait and see obviously, but I’m pretty sure I will be proven right


I don't believe him then. You think he will go with Blind as CB and Carrick in midfield two? I doubt it.

TBH I thought that last season with the 3 5 2. I think if we play this formation again today, then he is probably considering it for the Spurs game.
 
Firstly, I doubt we will be playing this formation as it suits nobody in our team. I’m sure van Gaal will go with some kind of 4-3-3. In that case there will only be place for him on the wings, and I doubt LvG will be tinkering with Young/Mata who both had good seasons and were very important for us in the second part of the season. Secondly, I doubt he will be putting so much pressure on the kid. He did brilliantly in dutch league but he will need some time to adjust to this league and more importantly van Gaal philosophy. I know you lot rate him very high but I suppose van Gaal will continue playing the same front 3 that worked last season, we already have a lot of new players in midfield and defence that I guess will be immediate starters.

Wait and see obviously, but I’m pretty sure I will be proven right


I don't believe him then. You think he will go with Blind as CB and Carrick in midfield two? I doubt it.
Carrick worked well with Cleverley or Anderson next to him, I think it will have better success with Schneiderlin in there as well. van Gaal doesn't play these type of mind games. He says what he thinks and doesn't say anything when he doesn't want to say anything.
 
TBH I thought that last season with the 3 5 2. I think if we play this formation again today, then he is probably considering it for the Spurs game.
Midfield two against Barca, seems familiar.

Carrick worked well with Cleverley or Anderson next to him, I think it will have better success with Schneiderlin in there as well. van Gaal doesn't play these type of mind games. He says what he thinks and doesn't say anything when he doesn't want to say anything.
Firstly that was a few years ago, secondly I doubt Anderson worked well with anybody, thirdly we didn’t have enough midfielders to play 3 in the middle. We do now and I’m sure we will.
 
midfield two against barca is suicide.

it is pre season though. i just don't see why he's acting like 433 doesn't exist.
 
He did it quite a bit vs Chelsea. I think he has it in him, just didn't have a great season last year

I thought one of the turning points in our form last year as we were dreadful at times. Was Blind moving to left back as much as Carrick playing centre mid. Blinds timing of his over laps were excellent (although I see Shaw being this position long term).
 
I've yet to see Shaw bursting on the outside (overlapping) with pace, timing and regularity! I hope your right though or he learns this atleast.
He'll improve over time in small things such as timing, and synchronising with the winger. The kid is rapid which will obviously help. Depay himself will most likely have a lot to improve on as well.
 
I wonder who's faster; Memphis or Shaw? I know at first glance it looks an easy decision, but I've seen Shaw fly past players in games.
 
Firstly, I doubt we will be playing this formation as it suits nobody in our team. I’m sure van Gaal will go with some kind of 4-3-3. In that case there will only be place for him on the wings, and I doubt LvG will be tinkering with Young/Mata who both had good seasons and were very important for us in the second part of the season. Secondly, I doubt he will be putting so much pressure on the kid. He did brilliantly in dutch league but he will need some time to adjust to this league and more importantly van Gaal philosophy. I know you lot rate him very high but I suppose van Gaal will continue playing the same front 3 that worked last season, we already have a lot of new players in midfield and defence that I guess will be immediate starters.

Wait and see obviously, but I’m pretty sure I will be proven right


I don't believe him then. You think he will go with Blind as CB and Carrick in midfield two? I doubt it.
Workmen players like Young were very good for us because their industry helped us disguise weaknesses we had in midfield and defence but having spent loads in solidifying our midfield you would surely expect the manager to go with highly productive players in offensive positions. Last season we created and scored a few goals below the standard we expect from a club of our ambitions, that has to be addressed. And addressing it entails playing creative and prolific players and also giving those players the license to thrill. In this respect Depay wins over Young all day, everyday.
Supported by a midfield duo of Schweinsteiger/Carrick and Schneiderlin, a front four like this
-----------Rooney----------
Depay----Di Maria----Mata
will have everything and the ability to interchange will bring in the unpredictability we need.
 
So... Depay as a #10. What do we think? He's barely had any experience at the top level and yet it looks as though LvG is entrusting him with the most important position in the team.
 
Workmen players like Young were very good for us because their industry helped us disguise weaknesses we had in midfield and defence but having spent loads in solidifying our midfield you would surely expect the manager to go with highly productive players in offensive positions. Last season we created and scored a few goals below the standard we expect from a club of our ambitions, that has to be addressed. And addressing it entails playing creative and prolific players and also giving those players the license to thrill. In this respect Depay wins over Young all day, everyday.
Supported by a midfield duo of Schweinsteiger/Carrick and Schneiderlin, a front four like this
-----------Rooney----------
Depay----Di Maria----Mata
will have everything and the ability to interchange will bring in the unpredictability we need.
Di Maria could swap with mata but that's a quality front 4 on paper,
 
I've yet to see Shaw bursting on the outside (overlapping) with pace, timing and regularity! I hope your right though or he learns this atleast.

Eh?

He does that pretty much every single game.
 
Eh?

He does that pretty much every single game.

Not sure what games your watching Sam. The games I'm at it's frustrating watching the timing of his runs and his reluctance to burst forward. It's like he's worried about either going forward or not getting back.
 
Not sure what games your watching Sam. The games I'm at it's frustrating watching the timing of his runs and his reluctance to burst forward. It's like he's worried about either going forward or not getting back.

When we were playing the 3-5-2 he definitely looked a bit reluctant, like he wasn't 100% sure when he should be making his forward runs, but thats not surprising since he's never played in that system. By the end of the season though, once we were back to a regular back 4, he was bombing on all the time down that flank. He was especially good at it against Chelsea and Everton away.
 
We finally have a player that makes decisive runs behind the defence without the ball. Shame Mata hasn't caught up to it yet. He could've played him through twice. He's definately ready for a starting place here.
 
Probably makes sense to move him onto the wings in the 2nd half.
 
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