[Wednesday at Stoke]

He's a scorer, not a creator.

Put a rampaging full back behind him who can make run and create, a creative mobile midfield and we'll see his potential. He's no good dribbling pass people to set up others.

This is utter trash, the answer to every non factor attacker seems to be that there needs to be pace and mobility around him so that he can pick passes. Well, that might be a legit defense when Ozil, Mata or Silva has a bad game because those kind of players play between the lines created by forwards but not this baller on a budget winger.

If a full back creates the space, I'd rather play Mata or Herrera on that wing who have a better eye for a dangerous pass or through ball when afforded time and space on the ball.

He is a winger, he is supposed to create width and either deliver dangerous crosses or create shots for himself on goal, even the bargain bin wingers at Stoke, Everton and Palace do that, Ashley fecking Young who plays as a full back has had more successful take ons than him on the same fecking team. Van Gaal sold Wilf Zaha and he's been doing a much better job at Palace.

Memphis is a shit-house attacker who overmatched the Dutch league full backs physically for a season and wakes up with the attitude of a Cristiano Ronaldo. What kind of winger even weighs 88kg? I mean Rio and Vidic at their peak weighed less than that and both played center backs for a living while being four inches taller than him.

 

[Hernandez - BFA]

Enjoy the wine and mince pie, Memphis Depay.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

This is utter trash, the answer to every non factor attacker seems to be that there needs to be pace and mobility around him so that he can pick passes. Well, that might be a legit defense when Ozil, Mata or Silva has a bad game because those kind of players play between the lines created by forwards but not this baller on a budget winger.

If a full back creates the space, I'd rather play Mata or Herrera on that wing who have a better eye for a dangerous pass or through ball when afforded time and space on the ball.

He is a winger, he is supposed to create width and either deliver dangerous crosses or create shots for himself on goal, even the bargain bin wingers at Stoke, Everton and Palace do that, Ashley fecking Young who plays as a full back has had more successful take ons than him on the same fecking team. Van Gaal sold Wilf Zaha and he's been doing a much better job at Palace.

Memphis is a shit-house attacker who overmatched the Dutch league full backs physically for a season and wakes up with the attitude of a Cristiano Ronaldo. What kind of winger even weighs 88kg? I mean Rio and Vidic at their peak weighed less than that and both played center backs for a living while being four inches taller than him.

Watch any highlights of his. The guy basically decided that he wants to play like Ronaldo. He's not going to create any space for his teammates, just eating them up.

It's not an excuse, just a fact.

 

[Offside]

He will come good.

 

[Skills]

His ability on the ball is so, so poor. There were a few moments where he was trying to link up with Martial, but it took him so long to get the ball out of his feet to create an angle for a pass that it repeatedly got blocked. Doesn't even have the awareness to look up to know the pass is off, to then just keep the ball.

 

[Kopral Jono]

Really? Where were all those other brave men charging the ball down with their neck outstretched from that shot then? He's playing poorly in a poor side, it frankly rather childish the way you react to it.

Doesn't change the fact that he's a coward for not putting his body on the line for the goal though, does it. He's playing poorly because he's shite, a fraud who needs to bugger off back to the Eredivisie sharpish where he belongs.

 

[khoazany]

Stoke away is generally a difficult game.I don't think the current Memphis is good enough to start these kind of games regardless of the manager and tactics.

 

[Sam]

What is he actually good at?

 

[Sam]

He's a scorer, not a creator.

Put a rampaging full back behind him who can make run and create, a creative mobile midfield and we'll see his potential. He's no good dribbling pass people to set up others.

Then he's not going to be a very good winger is he?

 

[Skills]

Then he's not going to be a very good winger is he?

There isn't much to suggest he's a scorer too. His finishing has been dreadful the few times he's been put through, and if you're really not offering much else you need to at least be ruthless in front of goal.

 

[ZDwyr]

What is he actually good at?

Predictably cutting inside to his right-foot.

 

[Charlie Foley]

In Gaelic Football terms, I feel like Mata and Memphis are, when on form, two excellent corner forwards in a team crying out for half forwards. The problem is right now they're desperately out of form and confidence.

I'm not sure how to explain that for the non Irish lads. Think of them as the wide points of the last 3 in a 4-3-3 rather than anywhere on the 3 of the 4-2-3-1. Which is (part of) what we need.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

Then he's not going to be a very good winger is he?

He's a wide striker. Noticed as much watching him at the WC. He's useless as a winger.

Think of him as a less skilled, more one dimensional Robben. If we allow him to hone his skill he can perfect the cut inside and shoot stuff, and maybe freekicks.

 

[Sam]

He's a wide striker. Noticed as much watching him at the WC. He's useless as a winger.

Think of him as a less skilled, more one dimensional Robben. If we allow him to hone his skill he can perfect the cut inside and shoot stuff, and maybe freekicks.

Robben can dribble fantastically well. Memphis...can't.

 

[AttackingFlair]

He needs to develop a brain.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

Robben can dribble fantastically well. Memphis...can't.

That's why I said 'even more one dimensional'

 

[RedStarUnited]

The thing is with him, every now and again he would do something magical that makes you think maybe there is something special there.

That goal he scored against PSV away is absolutely magical, seriously go back and watch it again. The two quick footed touches and finish were as perfect as they come.

 

[NotQuiteManc]

Yeah, he needs to commit a bit more. He seems half hearted in effort.

Same thoughts here. He seems not full on in his game at the moment. I am sure he still getting used to the league, etc. but he is still playing at an effort level where when he doesn't play well he still scores in the Eredevisie but not in EPL. Especially not against Stoke at Brittania.

 

[NotQuiteManc]

The thing is with him, every now and again he would do something magical that makes you think maybe there is something special there.

That goal he scored against PSV away is absolutely magical, seriously go back and watch it again. The two quick footed touches and finish were as perfect as they come.

He has something, still waiting to be unleashed I think. Just need to change the mindset, be stronger. Not just physically. He seems to be easily affected by any negativity happening on the pitch.

 

[Ish]

Same thoughts here. He seems not full on in his game at the moment. I am sure he still getting used to the league, etc. but he is still playing at an effort level where when he doesn't play well he still scores in the Eredevisie but not in EPL. Especially not against Stoke at Brittania.

Yeah man. You can excuse someone who's struggling with form, but their effort must be 110%.

 

[Borys]

I ask again, is it worth investing so much time in him when there are other young players with more potential around? Pereira, Januzaj, even Lingard who I don't rate that high.

The boy is nothing special, and surely isn't a winger.

 

[Sammyjunn]

Dont even want to read the comments, it's sad to see him play like this when I've followed him from when he was in the PSV academy. I know he's better than this, but he's been actually garbage. All fans who want him out already, fair enough to them because he has shown absolutely nothing here. It's a shame.

 

[Lentwood]

Should be at #10 for me

Can't wait for him too come good so all the people on here slamming one of our youngest players can come crawling out of the woodwork pretending that they knew it all along (see Ronaldo - ineffective showpony 2003/4)

 

[Godfather]

Problem I don't even see much talent there atm. Even when Nani had his frustrating moments. You saw an incredibly talented footballer there. Brilliant first touch. Brilliant dribbling ability. I don't see what Memphis is even good at atm. Can't pick out a pass, can't dribble. He is pretty strong that's about it though.

 

[Kostur]

Should be at #10 for me

Can't wait for him too come good so all the people on here slamming one of our youngest players can come crawling out of the woodwork pretending that they knew it all along (see Ronaldo - ineffective showpony 2003/4)

Nobody's slamming Martial to be fair.

And yea, he's probably looked the best when exempted of defensive duties but to get such privilege you have to actually absolutely destroy it up front, do magic, he doesn't do that so why would he get it.

 

[Borys]

Should be at #10 for me

Can't wait for him too come good so all the people on here slamming one of our youngest players can come crawling out of the woodwork pretending that they knew it all along (see Ronaldo - ineffective showpony 2003/4)

Why? He doesn't seem to be anything close to #10 or a winger to me.

 

[Adisa]

I think a conference defender can mark him. His dribbling is that poor.

 

[Lentwood]

Why? He doesn't seem to be anything close to #10 or a winger to me.

Because he isn't skilful in that same way that a tricky winger is, he is fast, powerful and direct. He is too big to be twisting defenders inside out. I also think he has a decent football brain and an eye for a pass

We need a #10 who has the directness to go past people and I think Depay could be that player

 

[FC Ronaldo]

Shudder.

 

[Ixion]

It was a terrible header. The wind was against him and the ball was bouncing high and spinning backwards. Insane thing to attempt.

 

[littlepeasoup]

Problem I don't even see much talent there atm. Even when Nani had his frustrating moments. You saw an incredibly talented footballer there. Brilliant first touch. Brilliant dribbling ability. I don't see what Memphis is even good at atm. Can't pick out a pass, can't dribble. He is pretty strong that's about it though.

He looks strong and he's physically built, but the amount of times he's been muscled off the ball has been pretty staggering.

 

[Speak]

He looks strong and he's physically built, but the amount of times he's been muscled off the ball has been pretty staggering.

He's arm-wrestle srong, but not football strong. he's the useless kind of strong for football.
In other words: like Carroll, he'd beat Messi or Silva in an arm-wrestle. But ask them to dribble with a football and turn etc. and they're not even near Messi or Silva, in terms of being hard to knock off the ball or to the ground.

 

[clarkydaz]

It was a terrible header. The wind was against him and the ball was bouncing high and spinning backwards. Insane thing to attempt.

you could forgive him for the wind, you can see the ball shift in the air. its how laid back he is seconds before it, as last man that's infuriating

 

[VorZakone]

His defensive contribution for the Dutch team has also been disastrous for them and he was heavily criticised for it. By no means are we expecting him to be Maldini but it needs to be better.

 

[LazyRed-Ninja]

To be fair, i expected him to have more impact. The game at home against Brugge for me was the game i thought he would push on and make his mark into the team. Unfortunately with a lot of young talents you have to be patient because they will experience the ups and downs and at the end their mentality will be the deciding factor. Still think he will come good at Old Trafford.

 

[Ibi Dreams]

5 goals and 4 assists so far this season isn't really bad at all for him, considering he's 21 and in a new country with a team that is struggling. I reckon there's a good chance he doubles those figures this season, and that would be a good contribution. I don't know if it's just that people's expectations are too high, but some are saying he's as bad as Bebe or Obertan - that's ridiculous.

 

[Nighteyes]

5 goals and 4 assists so far this season isn't really bad at all for him, considering he's 21 and in a new country with a team that is struggling. I reckon there's a good chance he doubles those figures this season, and that would be a good contribution. I don't know if it's just that people's expectations are too high, but some are saying he's as bad as Bebe or Obertan - that's ridiculous.

Considering more than half of that total was against a terrible, injury hit Brugge side and Ipswich Town, it's actually quite poor.

 

[Stringer]

5 goals and 4 assists so far this season isn't really bad at all for him, considering he's 21 and in a new country with a team that is struggling. I reckon there's a good chance he doubles those figures this season, and that would be a good contribution. I don't know if it's just that people's expectations are too high, but some are saying he's as bad as Bebe or Obertan - that's ridiculous.

Stats are a very limited way of looking at a player's contribution. Anyone who actually watches the matches will see how poor he has been. The Bebe and Obertan comparisons are a bit much but, to be honest, he's closer to them than he is to Nani.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Really feel for him, some disgusting comments on his Instagram. Sad thing is, half of it is coming from Fenerbahçe fans after that comment Depay made about Van Persie.

Spoiler: More Abuse

Spoiler: And even more...

 

[Sammyjunn]

Needs to get benched permanently and work hard to regain his place.

Some of the abuse is horrible.