Madrid have the luxury of not missing out on Europe even if they have an absolute crap year by their standard .
We can’t faff about with the striker position next season, 58 league goals isn’t sustainable for a top 4 side:
Mehdi Taremi
- Thread starter jamesjimmybyrondean
- Start date
We can’t faff about with the striker position next season, 58 league goals isn’t sustainable for a top 4 side:
To answer the question of what do our scouts do?
We can't afford any of the spoken-about names. Names which aren't guaranteed to be a success either. The only sure thing out there is Kane, and we're not getting him. So what options do we really have?
Ollie Watkins have 2 years left on his contract, we can see if £50/60m can get it done. Callum Wilson has one year left and Newcastle already bought Isak as the long term option. I would even take Toney, ban and all, if we have no other option to turn to. Unspectacular midtable PL strikers who have consistently scored 10+ league goals over the years is still better than gambling £80m on 2 unproven players. We can even be ruthless and shift whoever we sign this year on a loss next summer if we find someone better.
Villa would demand £20/30m more than your ballpark figures, United tax and their own ambition. Just look at what Chelsea did to us on the Mount deal for reference. Toney is a good shout but as soon as we show interest the prices touted will be stratospheric and eye-watering.
Getting a veteran striker and a young promising one is the right move. Gives us depth, insurance and a possible upside. A player like Hoijlund is like maybe 12 to 24 months away from exploding and it would be a wise move to get him whilst he is still within reach. Like I always say, having Rashford around will be an excellent foil should he need a settling period but I am on board with bringing Taremi.
Sounds like description of Ten Hag's favourite type striker. Physically strong finisher (hello, mr Haller), tactically aware, decent passing with vision etc...
Not sure about his mobility, but if his attitude is of team player, at some point he could be an option to have in mind. In case of financial complications, club will have to start checking alternatives.
I have no issue with gambling on a top prospect like Hojlund or Ferguson, but We dont need to double down on it by bringing in a ‘veteran striker’ who is untested in the league. Take the Madrid example, spent €60m on Jovic, failed miserably, now they got a top prospect in Endrick and cover him by a veteran striker from Espanyol who just scored 17 league goals, that’s the proper way to go about it. Taremi might be decent, he might be great, even, but that’s a risk we shouldn’t have to take especially with our current goalscoring issue and the increased competition next season.
We probably need to bring in more than one striker. Wouldn’t mind a cheap veteran as the second.
We need to bring in more than one striker, but my point is the veteran needs to have some sort of goalscoring pedigree in this league as a fallback option. Ighalo was a cheap veteran, Weghorst was a cheap veteran, see how those worked out.
For 20 million seems too sensible a transfer for us
I don't think that's their plan for next season. Endrick won't join them till 2024 and he will need at least a couple of more years till he's ready. Joselu alone isn't gonna close the gap with Barce or help them not get embarrassed again in the CL.
I don't think Taremi is at the 'warm body who we can register to fill out the squad' stage of his career quite yet like those two, he still seems fairly useful. Though I agree, unproven at higher levels.
I'm just wondering why the likes of Everton or West Ham aren't all over this
Doesn’t have to be THIS league at all
I get your point but please remember Ighalo was way better than WW.
I don't think we have the money for 2 strikers
And looks like Porto is trying to force a deal because of their financials
And looks like Porto is trying to force a deal because of their financials
I don’t blame him for OGS’s management of his minutes, but he ended up a pretty expensive loan signing (on wage) that disappeared from the team after the initial few months. Disappointing all in all.
And it’s hard to be worse than WW, probably the worst player with 20+ apps for us in the last couple of decades.
Strikers playing in this league can still fail, but at least you have more chance of them working out in the short term. Bringing in a veteran means you want to see returns asap.
Issue is you have absolutely zero chance of paying a decent fee
What’s Zlatan/Cavani up to these days? 
Ighalo was absolutely terrible whenever he played after the Covid lockdown. Obviously he didn't play much after that, but presumably the reason he wasn't playing was because of how bad he was at that stage. He seemed slow, unfit and couldn't get his first touch right.
I will always remember him fondly because of his pre-lockdown form where he was a good option for us, but after that he struggled badly.
Yet we decided to extend his loan.
It was bad management period, 0 PL goal and 1 goal after lock down, 3 appearances the next season until loan termination. Ended up a very pointless loan that cost us about €20m in fees and wages.
And what’s the cost of missing out on CL would be if we miss out by gambling on unproven options?
If Arsenal who are on FFP watchlist can spend £200m and possibly more, we can match that with player sales. That should score the strikers we need even at a premium.
Yes, you're right. We should buy Kane and Osimhen instead and be guaranteed 30 goals from each.
I can confidently guarantee you that neither will be worse than what Weghorst and Ighalo gave us.
These stop gap solutions, especially from inferior leagues, is one of the root causes of our problems. It is not like we are buying a goal scorer from the Spanish League.
No, please, move on.
No, please, move on.
I'd rather buy a EPL proven stop gap like Rodrigo Moreno
Taremi has good interlink ability i think because his assist stats seem good. I think after Kane taremi maybe most useful for our IFs.
Just another Islam Slimani.
It's just that Mount is a known quantity to pretty much everyone around here. You know Mount would rank among the lowest if you had polled with a list of midfielders we need.
Wanted this guy back in January before we got Weghorst. Goal machine.
I didn't even think of him. He could be an amazing fit for now. Though, he doesn't exactly replace the biggest concern we have with Martial... But as a player profile, he is one of the few (affordable?) options in case Kane cannot be bought and you still want a striker who can play along as well. Plus, he scored quite a lot before his injury last season. Other than that it seems like it's still only Felix who would have a similar profile, and last season mostly showed we still won't know what we'll be getting with him. And if we're talking affordable option, we're definitely not talking Felix.
On the other hand I feel like these are the sort of smart, cheap signings we don’t make enough of. I wanted us to sign Ben Yeddar for about 5 years.
He’s 30 now but he’d cost peanuts and if we’re ideally after two strikers, we’re going to need to make our money go further.
Really? I am not saying he is Maradona or Messi or 100٪ guarantee but why belittle him that much?
The guy was among the topscorers of portuguese league every season, twice topscorer (one of which with a little portuguese team Rio Ave).
As it isnt enough as some said portuguese league is weak, he scored plenty in champions league, 5 goals last season, and before against Atletico, Juventus (R16), liverpool, chelsea (that wonderful bicycle in 1/4). He also scored twice against England during last world cup.
His biggest merit would be that he is EPL proven and doesn't need to adapt, while someone like Taremi could end up like Weghorst.
His agency's at Old Trafford currently..
Unreal cl stats
I'd take him as long as we get Højlund too.
I’d be content with him and Hojlund coming in. It would probably lead to Martial being surplus to requirement.
I can see us switching from Hojlund to Taremi and Joao Felix Loan. Atalanta seem to be asking a lot for Hojlund.
Would be good to get rid of his wages and 5-10 mil in cash if some turkish club is stupid enough as well..
BTW I don't understand why would we be after Taremi, he's below average and I am sure we can do better even for that price.There's loads of strikers scoring for fun in shite leagues. Unless Taremi is a pressing monster with unreal hold up play, not sure why we would be after him..