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Full Democratic sweep': Analyst unnerves Fox Business host with election forecast
Are Fox and Fox & Friends different?
I thought I saw Fox criticizing Trump recently and him obviously giving shit back like the big baby he is.
I thought I saw Fox criticizing Trump recently and him obviously giving shit back like the big baby he is.
My understanding is that Fox's talkshows is where the rabid right-wing nonsense happens, but that its news programs and journalists are rather centre-right and relatively OK.
Kilmeade's reaction is priceless.
I don't think this merits its own thread, and it is (in my mind) related to Fox, so, out of curiosity: how does MSNBC compare to Fox? I know they're on the left, and my understanding is that their talkshow part is clearly very leftist. Are they as biased, partial, and basically misleading as Fox in that regard? Or do they remain in the realm of the rational at least?
There are more Ex Republicans on MSNBC than anyone on the left. Would not call them left at all, There hatred for Bernie and the Progressives is very visible. They do hate Trump though.
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I should add that I have never watched MSNBC and don't see them mentioned in the news much, so I'm really just coming from a place of pretty close to ignorance.
Its viewership is equally skewed to Democrats as Fox is to Republicans.
Among the hosts I think Chris Hayes counts as somewhat of a leftist, and that's it. The rest seem to be Dem party loyalists. Going back to 2003, they fired their most vocal anti-war anchor and replaced him with a program about Saddam being evil and getting WMDs, which matched the attitude of the Democrat party leadership (but not the left). Combing forward to this year, when Bernie was briefly the favourite for the nominee, an MSNBC anchor said Bernie might organise public executions in Central Park (opposition to Bernie, perfect for the Dems, anti-left). A massive amount of focus on MSNBC since 2016 (especially their star anchor Maddow) has been on Russiagate which was the favourite attack on Trump by conservatives, centrists, and some liberals, but not leftists. It has won them great ratings.
For Fox, I think being both ideologically committed to right-wing values and committed to the party is easier (since the party itself is more committed to the ideology). In their opinion shows, one extreme is Tucker Carlson (ideological), the other are Sean Hannity (party operative) or Fox&Friends (Trump loyalist). Redcafe's hero Chris Wallace seems to be a decent interviewer with mainstream US political opinions, I don't have TV so I don't know if his show is news or opinion. Their website gets recommended on my phone so I see their news, they do well to put an outrage spin on all stories involving all Democrats, focusing on AOC.
e - just saw this, MSNBC scolding Biden from the right, maybe they are more ideological than I thought
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Thanks - good to know. So in a way, they are actually pretty comparable, since Fox used to be the GOP mouthpiece in the media - except now Trump has moved the GOP into insane territory and Fox has trouble catching up outside its opinion shows. (I understand Wallace is a proper journalist btw, not an opinion show hack.)Its viewership is equally skewed to Democrats as Fox is to Republicans.
Among the hosts I think Chris Hayes counts as somewhat of a leftist, and that's it. The rest seem to be Dem party loyalists. Going back to 2003, they fired their most vocal anti-war anchor and replaced him with a program about Saddam being evil and getting WMDs, which matched the attitude of the Democrat party leadership (but not the left). Combing forward to this year, when Bernie was briefly the favourite for the nominee, an MSNBC anchor said Bernie might organise public executions in Central Park (opposition to Bernie, perfect for the Dems, anti-left). A massive amount of focus on MSNBC since 2016 (especially their star anchor Maddow) has been on Russiagate which was the favourite attack on Trump by conservatives, centrists, and some liberals, but not leftists. It has won them great ratings.
For Fox, I think being both ideologically committed to right-wing values and committed to the party is easier (since the party itself is more committed to the ideology). In their opinion shows, one extreme is Tucker Carlson (ideological), the other are Sean Hannity (party operative) or Fox&Friends (Trump loyalist). Redcafe's hero Chris Wallace seems to be a decent interviewer with mainstream US political opinions, I don't have TV so I don't know if his show is news or opinion. Their website gets recommended on my phone so I see their news, they do well to put an outrage spin on all stories involving all Democrats, focusing on AOC.
e - just saw this, MSNBC scolding Biden from the right, maybe they are more ideological than I thought
Kayleigh McEnany backs criminal investigation of New York Times over Trump's taxes
They are not comparable at all. Fact check both and you will see.
I knew it!Fox News employees: Fox is a pro-Trump propaganda network
Scott Baio attacks 'Happy Days' reunion because he doesn't believe in 'Marxism'
What's up with her mouth? Botched cosmetic surgery? Too much botox?
Probably both. She used to be attractive.
so many questions! They couriered the only version of the documents they had rather than emailing them and didn’t make any sort of backup copies either.
The only real question is: how many times does a baby have to be dropped on it's head to grow into an adult believing this shit?
The only real question is: how many times does a baby have to be dropped on it's head to grow into an adult believing this shit?
This is all, literally, "Just a show". It's performance art for lunatics.
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/9177...s-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye
Also, why not mention the name of the carrier, if it is indeed a 'brandname company'? Maybe because it didn't happen and whatever carrier they chose for their lie would immediately deny it?
That's about as good an explanation on their part as: The Bart, The.
A few days ago was the first time I actually took a few minutes to view this channel, after the second debate.
What a bunch of loonies. The frightning thing is tons of people actually believe what they are saying is true.
What a bunch of loonies. The frightning thing is tons of people actually believe what they are saying is true.
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Depends on your definition of some. I would say millions of people could be considered many.
"My dog ate my homework" basically.
And his brain-dead viewers will believe him and move on. Or say the dog was a Democrat trained to steal packages
I'm done!"The dog ate my October surprise"
"My dog ate my homework" basically.
It's funny the way they insult their viewers straight to their faces: "We know you are so incredibly dumb you are going to believe this shit LOL"
Apparently Carlson has bunkered himself up in his private TV studio in the middle of nowhere (Maine) since the summer. Yet keeps telling people going to work/school etc, is totally fine.