Hopeless I would rather see Shaw obviously but even CBJ play in front of the Bradly Wiggens imposter.
36
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 29
- Clean sheets
- 12
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 1
- Yellow cards
- 3
- Status
If Shaw cannot get a game ahead of him then he has to move on-it's like being lower on the list of potential babysitters than Gary Glitter
I always like to look for the positives in our players, but I have to say, Darmian is clearly not up to this level.
In fact I do not even have a table
Spot on. He's a average player who shouldn't be playing at this level.
This level being United, probably.
This level being a cup game to rotate / rest others, I think its fine. eg, play him in the Europa League second leg as well and it wont be a problem.
You make it sound like Shaw is so much better than him. Neither are good enough for United.
Darmian is a Southampton level player. Shaw the same.
I don't think he's good enough for us no matter the competition. I don't think he will play in the EL game either.
He just doesn't do anything that well. His defending is average and attacking wise he does almost nothing.
You are so wrong-Shaw has great potential and if he gets back to where he was before the leg break he will be here for years-Darmian will not-he is nowhere near Premier League standard-as proved by being out of his depth today up against players from a team at the bottom of the Championship.
Form is temporary, class is permanent!
I get what youre saying long term, but I was mostly talking about this season. He will do a "job" for us. I do agree we need to upgrade on him however.
Ah, my bad. I agree, we need him this season, specially with what's happening with Shaw. Need Darmian and Blind to stay fit with all the games coming up
I don't think he has a single positive attribute. Positioning, pace, tackling, passing, crossing etc... literally every facet of his game is average or worse.
Shaw wasn't that good before the injury. Hes worthless going forward. Can't cross or anything. United is all about pacey attacking full backs. Thats why Evra, Neville, Irwin were so good here.
Shaw is like a third CB. Nowhere near world class potential. He'll be a midtable PL player like Cresswell and the like. I'd argue Bertrand would be a much better LB for us than Shaw. But to be honest, I think Daley Blind is abolutely fine as our first choice.
No shit Sherlock. That's exactly what I meant.
He is really average, dreadful today. What a disappointment of a transfer it turned out to be. Sell him to Inter quickly, i bet we can squeeze some money out of them
Are we all finally agreeing he is shit? I'd rather Riley or CBJ be playing any day of the week. feck it, get Demi in there. Darmian does nothing, isn't good at anything. I don't know consistently being shit is considered doing a job. He can't even defend. Awful at 1v1s and he is always seconds behind the play. A complete reactionary player. Too afraid or just too clueless to be proactive.
Normally I maintain that even though he is largely unproductive, he is usually a strong defender with good positioning and often quite impressive at one-on-ones.
But he was lousy even at that today. Awful defending. He was getting rinsed. There was one moment he was miles out of position, and he just jogged behind the play and left Carrick to drop in at left back. He didn't seem interested, and perhaps he knows he's finished here. BUt if that's the case, we should be investing game time in players who are going to be here beyond the summer.
Could it really be any worse to play a Luke Shaw bereft of confidence instead of largely pointless Matteo Darmian? Shaw has to start somewhere in getting his fitness, confidence and mentality back. He's not going to get better at football by not playing football.
But he was lousy even at that today. Awful defending. He was getting rinsed. There was one moment he was miles out of position, and he just jogged behind the play and left Carrick to drop in at left back. He didn't seem interested, and perhaps he knows he's finished here. BUt if that's the case, we should be investing game time in players who are going to be here beyond the summer.
Could it really be any worse to play a Luke Shaw bereft of confidence instead of largely pointless Matteo Darmian? Shaw has to start somewhere in getting his fitness, confidence and mentality back. He's not going to get better at football by not playing football.
Agreed once he moves back over to RB this league won't know whats hit it.
Will surely be find this summer. Shame he never built on that early promise, but he's looked worse than average for ages now.
Evra for the vast majority of his time at United was a really poor crosser. It was only in his final season at the club when he somehow became a good crosser - that was the first time he got 5 league assists in a season. I agree Shaw's not a good crosser but I don't think that's a good measure of attacking prowess for a fullback. If it was then Blind would be seen as a much better attacker than Evra ever was.
Ashley Young says hello.
One of the few instances where the outpouring of criticism is actually justified imo after a game.
He was bad. So fecking bad.
He was bad. So fecking bad.
Every time we were trying to keep possession in their half and have strung like 20 passes together I was bricking it when he got the ball on the left. Luckily he returned it to Pogba after two seconds.
He's the only player in the squad that shouldn't get a game no matter who the opposition is. There are players like Rooney, Fellaini, Lingard, Schweinsteiger, Young who are average for the most part but at least offer something and can put in good performances when needed, but no matter whether it's PL standard or Championship, Darmian is always our worst player.
Very good defender, but doesn't bring anything.
It's a bit if shame because when he's playing like this, he's not "covered" offensively by the likes of Martial, Rashford and Lingard who doesn't produce enough.
But I don't really understand how he can get a game in front of Shaw, especially against a lower team.
I understand Shaw's injury and the need to rebuild his legs and body, but he needs to play to be fit.
It's a bit if shame because when he's playing like this, he's not "covered" offensively by the likes of Martial, Rashford and Lingard who doesn't produce enough.
But I don't really understand how he can get a game in front of Shaw, especially against a lower team.
I understand Shaw's injury and the need to rebuild his legs and body, but he needs to play to be fit.
No he isn't he constantly gets beat 1 on 1 he's a liability. He along with Lingard will be replaced by better quality.
My theory on Darmian is that he's so so shit at attacking/doing anything with the ball, that we must do mental gymnastics to make him be decent at defending in order to justify his existence as a footballer.
"But, but he's a decent defender". No, no he's not.
Slow, indecisive, Invisible going forward.
Wish I could say he is solid defensively but the fact is that he simply isn't. Valencia, Blind, Shaw, Young, TFM and even CB Jackson would be ahead of him in the pecking order imo.
When you start to think a player has had a good game but it turns out they we're just less shit than their last game. This is known as the Darmian Paradox.
He had a great start to his United career, but that's about it. Just not good enough
He played well in a couple of preseason games. That is not in any way shape or form "a great start" to anyone's career.
They can't cover for him offensively because not only do their own performances suffer offensively because he puts little effort into supporting them (see Martial yesterday). They also quite often spend half their time dropping back to support him, because he's struggling defensively.
He's not a good defender let alone a very good one. He's decent at that one aspect of the fullback role, sometimes. Can't think of a worse fullback at United in almost 30 years of watching.
Horrible going forward and his defending is not good enough to mask that.
Complete pussy, easily pushed off the ball and just generally average.
Shaw's lacking confidence /match fitness, Blind is lacking in pace and Darmian is lacking in quality. Great conundrum we have at left back. I think the worst thing we did with Darmian was to play him at left back, however average he is at right back, he is dreadful altogether at left back.
- Status