Matheus Cunha £62.5m release clause

He's a good player but I've heard that he's quite difficult away from the pitch. Hopefully we've done our homework on him.
 
croadyman said:
Just wait and see breakdown of deal before making sweeping statements like that
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Yep. In PSR terms it works out at 12.5m a year. If we can shift Rashford for 40m it’ll all hit the books straight away. Basically allowing us to do a few of these 60m deals. I do think a good window depends on us getting CL and one of Garnacho or Rashford out the door though.
 
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Osimhen depending on whether we get CL
 
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I was excited for this a couple of weeks ago but getting cold feet now after watching his last couple of performances for Wolves. Hopefully he's just trying not to get injured.
 
Blood Mage said:
I was excited for this a couple of weeks ago but getting cold feet now after watching his last couple of performances for Wolves. Hopefully he's just trying not to get injured.
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He's the one we need. He plays with expectations on his shoulders and is not fazed.
Immediately upgrades on of our front three to top 4 level.
 
I feel like if we're going to spend this much for a single player, it should be a striker or a goalkeeper. You know, our 2 biggest priorities.
 
Hopefully a Rashford sale can fund a transfer like this, as we have plenty to rebuild
 
It’s probably 10-15m more than I would have liked to pay for him but I am happy nonetheless.

Premier league proven. Seems to have the right attributes to play in the #10. Not the biggest guy but is strong in balance and competes hard.

Amad and Cunha playing as #10s, Bruno feeding them balls and maybe 1 class WB and we can have the foundations of a strong attack. Just need a functioning striker after.
 
Tallis said:
It’s probably 10-15m more than I would have liked to pay for him but I am happy nonetheless.

Premier league proven. Seems to have the right attributes to play in the #10. Not the biggest guy but is strong in balance and competes hard.

Amad and Cunha playing as #10s, Bruno feeding them balls and maybe 1 class WB and we can have the foundations of a strong attack. Just need a functioning striker after.
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Who would you sign to feed off those balls from Bruno, Amad and Cunha?
 
If he has attitude problems we should stay clear. This clip is concerning about his mentality.


We want players who are going to work hard and fight with the team. If he’s the type that thinks he doesn’t have to prove anything and isn’t team first, then we don’t need to waste $62m.
 
bgoodall said:
If he has attitude problems we should stay clear. This clip is concerning about his mentality.


We want players who are going to work hard and fight with the team. If he’s the type that thinks he doesn’t have to prove anything and isn’t team first, then we don’t need to waste $62m.
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pretty concerning stuff from his current manager - as others have said in this thread he seems to let his head drop when things aren't going well. If the last 13 years are anything to go by, there'll be long periods of that if he came here. That plus the added expectation of playing for united will no doubt make it harder for him. The last thing we need is another player who will start moping around the pitch when we're getting twatted at home by Crystal Palace or whatever
 
lysglimt said:
I dont hate him - I enjoy having a player in the squad who is always fit - but him and Dorgu give me a lot of the same. Good, solid players - but probably not good enough to get us a lot closer to where we should be
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I put Dorgu in a different category because he’s new and only 20 (whereas Dalot is 26). Dorgu is still pretty raw and will need a year or two before we see the best of him imo.
 
Not sold, too expensive and he's not the "lead the line" number 9 that the system requires. Better than we presently have shouldn't be the threshold we're trying to clear.
 
Blood Mage said:
I was excited for this a couple of weeks ago but getting cold feet now after watching his last couple of performances for Wolves. Hopefully he's just trying not to get injured.
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I'm not super into him either but I felt the same way about Yorke and Teddy and Saha and so on. Obviously good players but flawed. Could do very well here for a while. He also has a bit of agression about his play.
 
Raoul said:
I don't get the Dalot hate. He's pretty good player. Not exactly peak Cafu, but also not bad enough to be constantly berated because the team (and its #9) aren't scoring goals and winning games.
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Reading this forum i thought i am the only one who thinks like that. As you said; he is not world class but he is full back with pretty good technique (for full back), decent crosser and passer, strong in duels and air and always fit.
People exaggerate A LOT about Dalot. I would also prefer someone like Frimpong or Trincao there but finding better solution on right wingback than Dalot is not our priority right now.
 
roseguy64 said:
Classic can't handle the Man Utd pressure signing who'll flop.

He does not have the temperament to play for the club, especially without someone like a Fergie, Pep or Klopp as the coach.
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I remember the good old days when we used to wait till a player had signed for us before we wrote him off.
 
Tallis said:
I remember the good old days when we used to wait till a player had signed for us before we wrote him off.
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I have no doubts he's absolutely a talented player. It's blatantly obvious a player with his temperament is gonna have massive issues with a move to a club like Man Utd. He'd be better served going to Chelsea or Arsenal.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Reading this forum i thought i am the only one who thinks like that. As you said; he is not world class but he is full back with pretty good technique (for full back), decent crosser and passer, strong in duels and air and always fit.
People exaggerate A LOT about Dalot. I would also prefer someone like Frimpong or Trincao there but finding better solution on right wingback than Dalot is not our priority right now.
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It's his performance on the left that led to all that. Since he's move back to the right, he has been very good even contributing with goals and some good crosses and cut backs. He's far from someone to worry about especially as we know Amad can also play Rwb and give us a more attacking option in games were we should be going all out attack.
 
If we manage to move Rashford on then it’s pure profit that goes down on the books PSR wise as one payment so IF we manage to get £40 million for Rashford from Villa or someone else then paid Wolves just over the release clause in order to amortise the fee over 5 years (let’s say £65 million) then we’d in the eyes of PSR be about £25 million in profit.

With Sancho we’ve only got about £14 million left to pay for him as this is his fourth season and was signed for £73 million so anything above that to move him on is profit, I don’t think we’ll get much more if we even do get more BUT you can easily see someone in Europe taking Sancho on if the fee is £15 million plus Chelsea paid his wages this year and at the least will pay a penalty clause for not signing him permanently of anywhere between £5 million to £10 million.

With Antony there’s about £17 million at the end of this season left to pay on his fee to Ajax so anything above that will class as profit and we’re not paying the majority of his wages, Hojlund we’re stuck with as there’s about £45 million left to pay so unless someone pays £45 million which is highly unlikely we’re stuck with him but there’s always also the 50% sell on fee from Marseille if Greenwood moves which seems likely and could net us at least another £25 million.

So if we move Sancho and Antony on for let’s say a combined £35 million we’d in PSR terms basically be break even on those then Rashford is pure profit which allows us in theory enough money to buy Osimhen or Gyokeres AND Cunha if it’s all spread over 5 years, that’s if we went with Cunha over Cherki which is another story altogether.
 
Manifesting Villa's CL qualification so Marcus can accept to stay with them. Would give us so much more financial room to rebuild the squad in the summer.
 
Can’t help feel this isn’t going to work out well. His temperament is very suspect - ticking time bomb when opponents get to him. Never been massively impressed with him when I’ve seen him play. And the price is classic United - overpriced and we buy because we are desperate.
Surely there are better options out there and this guy for £60m?
 
soapythecat said:
Can’t help feel this isn’t going to work out well. His temperament is very suspect - ticking time bomb when opponents get to him. Never been massively impressed with him when I’ve seen him play. And the price is classic United - overpriced and we buy because we are desperate.
Surely there are better options out there and this guy for £60m?
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Is there any credible source that we are paying that much? I understand it's his release clause but I'd expect we would try and get the price closer to £50 million. Still not saying this is the right signing but just that we may not be paying that much.
 
Is he really that good to warrant us blowing 62m pounds in a summer we need so much revamp? It seems very stupid to do so especially if someone like Gyokeres has a similar release clause and we need a striker much more than we need Cunha.

EDIT: And why are so many on here wanting Bruno in midfield 2? He isn't good enough to play that role on regular basis.
 
Red Rash said:
Is there any credible source that we are paying that much? I understand it's his release clause but I'd expect we would try and get the price closer to £50 million. Still not saying this is the right signing but just that we may not be paying that much.
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Wolves is the only place he’s done well - zero pressure. Even if it was £40m I think it would be too much and a huge gamble.
 
Crazy price. He is a good player but seems to be a bit of diva and we already have lots and lots of them at our club. I am very circumspect about this potential signing.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Reading this forum i thought i am the only one who thinks like that. As you said; he is not world class but he is full back with pretty good technique (for full back), decent crosser and passer, strong in duels and air and always fit.
People exaggerate A LOT about Dalot. I would also prefer someone like Frimpong or Trincao there but finding better solution on right wingback than Dalot is not our priority right now.
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I do t understand the hate either, he’s one of our few players with the physical and technical quality to play for a top team.
 

  • Manchester United have held positive contract talks to sign Wolverhampton Wanderers forward Matheus Cunha.
  • Ruben Amorim and United executives are aligned on trying to bring Cunha to Old Trafford and they are taking the first steps in attempting to find agreement on personal terms.
  • The £62.5million ($83.7m) release clause in Cunha’s contract makes the parameters of a transfer clear, and while Wolves want payment in full there is scope for instalments. United have financial regulations to consider but hope to free space by selling Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho, Antony and Tyrell Malacia.
  • Cunha, through a trademark dribble, earned the free-kick that Pablo Sarabia converted to win Wolves the game at United on Sunday, and afterwards Amorim was seen greeting the Brazilian forward in the tunnel.


Read the full article from here
https://www.smry.ai/proxy?url=https.../22/manchester-united-transfers-cunha-wolves/
 
He's a great fit in terms of position and ability. Worried about how hot-headed he seems to get though. Plus it's quite a steep price for someone who isn't super prolific.

We can spend this on a 10 but not similar on someone like Gyokeres?
 
soapythecat said:
Wolves is the only place he’s done well - zero pressure. Even if it was £40m I think it would be too much and a huge gamble.
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He did well in Germany, Atletico is the only place he didn't hit the mark actually. He's grown as a player since.
 
Gandalf said:
Not arguing the instalments, just the idea that somehow we come out at net 40M from the scenario given. I sincerely doubt we sell Hojlund or Antony this summer anyway and we are going to struggle to get much for Rashford. If we did get someone to pay 40M for Rashford it would almost certainly be based on us handing a big chunk of that to Marcus as a payoff for the much lower wage he would be forced to take at his new club. Marcus might be a local boy who loves the club but he is also never going to leave money on the table to facilitate a move and so if Villa will only offer him 150K a week we will be on the hook for the difference or we can just welcome him back to the squad.
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If we do not have European football next season all players lose 25% of their basic pay, just like no CL this season, Rashford actual wages are £250,000 and Villa are paying most of that for 6 months,

Next year Rashford would be looking for a new 4 year contract and a team like Barcelona or PSG will be happy to pay a £40-50m fee plus a 3/4 year contract at €15m per season, we won’t be paying no pay off, he’ll be told find a club or rot in the reserves and with it being a World Cup year he’ll leave!
 
Seems a good fit and is PL proven. Something Liverpool and Arsenal have done well in recent years has been getting the right players from midtable PL clubs, like VVD, Sane, Robertson, Rice, White, etc. Meanwhile we’ve paid over the odds for the likes of Maguire and AWB.
 
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