Not at the expense of pushing youngsters too soon...
Mason Greenwood
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Not at the expense of pushing youngsters too soon...
I trust the club to get it right in terms of when he's ready for first-team football. That said, the likes of Sterling and Macheda were getting first team minutes when they were only 17 so I'd like to think Greenwood will get some cameos at the same age.
There's a bigger picture here though isn't there. You've only got to look at Rooney to see how a player who starts early can burn out early too. Most players only have a certain amount of mileage it seems.
But I'd definitely be aiming to give Greenwood some minutes in the first team over the next few games, if nothing else to keep the feelgood factor going. We've also got a congested schedule so if he could take 5-10 minutes here and here, it could really help the likes of Lukaku and Rashford.
Then I'd be aiming to send him somewhere like Ajax or Dortmund asap. You've only got to look at Sancho to see the benefits that playing abroad can bring.
But I'd definitely be aiming to give Greenwood some minutes in the first team over the next few games, if nothing else to keep the feelgood factor going. We've also got a congested schedule so if he could take 5-10 minutes here and here, it could really help the likes of Lukaku and Rashford.
Then I'd be aiming to send him somewhere like Ajax or Dortmund asap. You've only got to look at Sancho to see the benefits that playing abroad can bring.
These clubs don't develop players for other clubs. They would much rather give their own players a chance then develop someone for us.
Not really a valid reason for a young players development, he's doing fantastic, no need to rush.
Really? Let's see you make one..
Given we have one of the best records for developing talent in the world...not sure there is a good reason to send our best talent abroad. We have never done it before.
I agree with the motto 'if you are good enough you are old enough' so let the coaching staff do their jobs and the lad will do fine.
If he needs a loan they will organise it...if not they will keep him under wraps at Carrington.
90% of loans don't work out so not sure you want to risk that with one of your brightest talents.
Indeed, let Greenwood be Greenwood.
Didn’t we loan a bunch of people to Antwerp in the 00s? Granted not our very “best”... but still. There is some precedent.
Yeah but they weren't successful. Think Cofie went along with a few others.
Slightly different as we had an ongoing relationship with them. Secondly, we never loaned out our top talents there at all.
O'Shea, Evans, Cathcart, Shawcross, Gibson, Simpson, Campbell, Ebanks-Blake, Heaton, Bardsley and Higgingbottom went there. All had excellent careers.
Our loans never seem to work out anyway
I'd say excellent is probably an overstatement for a lot of those but those two in particular in bold. The level of football would've been rubbish so cant say how beneficial it would've been.
They had excellent careers, all things considered. Not every player can be a world beater. Ebanks-Blake made 76 PL appearances and Gibson made 94 PL appearances.
Evans was easily the best talent who went out there. Fraizer Campbell very good too, don't remember if Rossi went, don't think so?
We loaned out a total of 29 players to Antwerp.
Bardsley, Chadwick, G. Clegg, Davis, Blake, Fox, Heath, Higginbotham, Hilton, Johnson, O'Shea, Rachubka, Tate, Wallwork, J. Wood, N. Wood, Campbell, Evans, Gibson, R. Jones, Martin, Shawcross, Simpson, Eckersley, Heaton, Gray, Lea, Cathcart, Cofie.
Of those 29, eleven never made our first team and another dozen made only a handful of appearances.
Whilst many of the others had good careers with other clubs only really O'Shea and Evans had long careers at United. And you could argue that Evans learned more at Sunderland than at Antwerp.
So while the loan probably didn't hurt anyone in terms of career prospects at United...for 90% it didn't make a real difference.
Look on Instagram, most of the academy are on there.
I still don't see a vid of anyone looking more impressive than Shoretire.
I can only find the five touches against Valencia and a clip from U13s.. Links please.
The sooner we have a functioning team the better as it'll make it easier to develop players. Exposing the to the current mediocrity will only harm these very talented lads.
Solskjær on youth: “If you’re good enough you’re old enough. I really hope I can be apart of that tradition. There’s some great youngsters coming through.” [mutv]
Lets hope that him and Chong not playing with the u23 tonight is a good sign and that they (or at least 1 of them) will be included in Saturdays squad.
I had a thought yesterday that it'd be awesome if the two of them alternate starts for the next few matches, with the other replacing them after 60 minutes or so.
Not going to happen, but it'd be great.
If he keeps going as he is there's no way he will be going out on loan.
Think Greenwood might come of the bench tomorrow to make his debut.
Today is Friday?
Probably i think we were close to that anyway with Greenwood and now we'll want the added positivity. I just hope he isn't rushed into it for the sake of a managers brief
I meant Saturday, sorry...
People are seriously comparing World Cup Winner Kylian Mbappe to Hasn't even played a first team match Mason Greenwood? 'kin hell this forum sometimes 
Depends on how you measure excellence I suppose.
People are seriously comparing World Cup Winner Kylian Mbappe to Hasn't even played a first team match Mason Greenwood? 'kin hell this forum sometimes
I think it’s more they’re comparing 17 year-old, hadn’t even played a first team match Kylian Mbappe to Greenwood, and speculating as to whether the latter might follow in Mbappe’s path. Nothing wrong with that.
(Edit): silly me, just saw that Mbappe made his Monaco debut at 16. Never mind.
He will make his debut this season.
Just saw this vid on Twitter I didnt realise his finishing was so good!
its been said multiple times, but to me its so freakish how much he resembles RvP in his play style
His finishing is his 2nd best attribute. First being his two footedness.
I've seen people say it but I didn't know whether to take it seriously, I can definatley see the RVP comparisons after watching that complilation.
Good call, very similar gait and play style. He seems really good off both feet as well.
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