Marcus
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The big question is whether Sancho or Greenwood would fetch a better price for us.
Either kick him out or do everything possible to de-stench him before the sale to the next dummy. This isn't rocket science
Well, yes.
But United can't do much to de-stench him. Beyond, you know, not doing anything at all (treat him as a possible transfer that other clubs may go for).
The de-stench aspect here amounts to just treating him as any other player, surely.
(What else can United do? Issue a statement? "We can't take him back, but - really - he's a fine lad and a terrific footballer, please consider paying us a shitload of money for him.")
There's only one possible scenario in which United make more than a relative pittance (transfer fee) here: multiple clubs actually want to sign him. But even then, the max fee is limited to - well - common sense. 60 mill? Forget it, not going to happen. The clubs that will be interested in signing him permanently don't have that kind of money.
(The idea that we can sell him to anyone because he's "objectively" worth 60m or whatever...is laughable, of course.)
Apparently two premier league clubs after him.
I imagine one is Arsenal, who clearly don’t care about this sort of thing being an issue based off the starting 11s they’ve had out recently.
Wonder who else?
We have a +1 year option.
Still not sure that a loan is a good financial option for us.
... or simply avail yourselves of the service of a homegrown talent who is a cnut who can also play football well?
That (probably) ain't gonna happen.
But yes, of course: I do see your point with regard to United's - let's say - moral stance here.
That would be: United's moral stance (not the moral stance of the fans who want him gone).
It was hardly a secret.I think Getafe President killed any hope for us to get a decent fees. He basically tell the whole world that they have discussed with Man Utd and confirmed that we don't want to take him back and looking to sell Greenwood. Any clubs interested in Greenwood will lowball us.
Greenwood, Lukaku, Leão and Toney all being here is amazing.The last thing we need back
Some rumours about Barca wanting him and willing to swap players (Vitor Roque mentioned, as an example). Erik obviously wants FDJ who doesn't want to come here, and they've got one of the best centre backs around in Araújo (rumoured price €100m, with Bayern interested as well), and we've been linked with their 19 year old centre back Mikayil Faye.
If Barca want to swap, but United would rather get cash for FFP purposes, would it not make sense to flaunt the spirit of the rules like Barca and Juve did for Pjanic and Arthur?
I don't think those rumours are from credible sources. The Barca thing has come up several times this season and has been shot down pretty quickly on each occasion. I expect that we are the ones planting those stories if anything as we try to drum up a better offer than another season on loan at Getafe.
It would make a lot of sense to swap unwanted attacker for attacker. We probably value them similarly anyway and everyone wins from an FFP perspective.Some rumours about Barca wanting him and willing to swap players (Vitor Roque mentioned, as an example). Erik obviously wants FDJ who doesn't want to come here, and they've got one of the best centre backs around in Araújo (rumoured price €100m, with Bayern interested as well), and we've been linked with their 19 year old centre back Mikayil Faye.
If Barca want to swap, but United would rather get cash for FFP purposes, would it not make sense to flaunt the spirit of the rules like Barca and Juve did for Pjanic and Arthur?
Wasn't he cleared? Also who said the images were because of him?I don't want this reprehensible individual anywhere near our club.
To those who said he made a mistake, a mistake is when your parents go away for the week and you forget to put the bins out.
To those who still say he made a mistake, gather round your mother, sisters, daughters, neices, aunties and female friends and colleagues. Then, look them in the eyes and show them the images and let them listen to the audio and then tell them he's not a bad lad, he was young and made a mistake.
If that's still your position then shame on you.
His partnerWasn't he cleared? Also who said the images were because of him?
No he wasn't cleared as has been pointed out and explained millions of times in this threadWasn't he cleared? Also who said the images were because of him?
Wasn't he cleared? Also who said the images were because of him?
It's not a great price for him, let's be honest.Even 25M for him will be a great price and i’m sure half the Spanish and Italian clubs can certainly afford that. He’s damaged goods that United needs to get rid of
It's not a great price for him, let's be honest.
It's how he played here too, really. His pressing and defensive stats were cack (especially in his second season) and he relied a lot on his great striking technique to get him through things.Matches the eye test in the Getafe games I’ve sat through. No defensive work and a lazy attitude in general. Another reason to not want him back.
It's not a great price for him, let's be honest.
pretty sure the club said they dug deeper, gained new evidenceNo he wasn't cleared as has been pointed out and explained millions of times in this thread
Bellingham was the only Spanish transfer above £20m last summer. We'd be lucky to get that.Even 25M for him will be a great price and i’m sure half the Spanish and Italian clubs can certainly afford that. He’s damaged goods that United needs to get rid of
pretty sure the club said they dug deeper, gained new evidence
pretty sure the club said they dug deeper, gained new evidence
For what it's worth the Cafe members, mainly, are not the police but it doesn't stop us from forming an opinion. Uniteds opinion will be more informed than ours but with that said, I doubt that I'll ever know what truly happened.Not this again. For what its worth the club are not the Police and as such are not qualified to dig deeper and carry out any kind of reliable investigation besides which they had a vested interest in clearing him so are far from neutral in this matter. He ignored a restraining order and impregnated the alleged victim when he was supposed to be nowhere near her, as a result she withdrew from the case and without her as a witness the CPS decided not to proceed. Not cleared in the slightest, actually broke the law by visiting her during the process and most definitely is a scumbag and not wanted within a million miles of the club.
Now you don't need to reread the 372 pages of posts to answer why your assumptions are wrong, you are welcome.
For what it's worth the Cafe members, mainly, are not the police but it doesn't stop us from forming an opinion. Uniteds opinion will be more informed than ours but with that said, I doubt that I'll ever know what truly happened.
I agree, in the main, but it's clearly stated that they have more information then we do. The court of public opinion has spoken though, and you can't blame anyone for thinking/fearing the worse. I believe he and us as fans should move on from it. I only hope that the alleged victim has a strong support network around her and I prey that Greenwoods name is never spoken in this scenario ever again.Fair point. We form opinions and all the club could do was form an opinion also. When forming opinions you can only consider what is in the public domain and the pictures and audio are out there and cannot be handwaved away.
Wasn't he cleared? Also who said the images were because of him?
His partner
She captioned the images, insinuating he did it, no?No Greenwood wasn’t cleared, the CPS dropped the charges due to them not believing there was enough evidence for a conviction but he wasn’t cleared or found not guilty. At the same time his partner never said anything and her father actually said the images and captions were uploaded by her friends, she hasn’t ever publicly spoken about it at all.
1. “Cleared” would indicate that he’s been found not guilty. It never went to court. The case fell apart after witnesses pulled out.Wasn't he cleared? Also who said the images were because of him?