Absolutely. By absolving others, they are merely trying to absolve themselves from past, present or even future wrongdoings. Same with the second chance bullshit. The only person they want a second chance for, is themselves.
At least many of them.
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At least many of them.
Of course I can ignore it. However, the third thread when you come in this forum shouldn't be one that's 90% talking about rape.
I don't find people seeking to understand reasons behind actions as disgusting. I find the excuses that you've concocted as disgusting because they are of no relevance and have gone off a deep dive into pseudo-science nonsense as @Lash points out.
I think if your defence of someone doing what Greenwood did starts going into someones frontal cerebral cortex developing then you need to have a word with yourself. 
His fans claim he is a United player and we should discuss him on the forum. Those who think less favourably of him think if there is discussion it should include the context of his 'loan'.
To be honest you just seem intent on winding people up by saying progressively more outrageous things. If it's attention you're after there are better ways to get it.
Had to actually double take on you being the poster for this. I’ve seen you post in the police thread previously and could have assumed you have very strict morals. I guess you pick and choose who and when you apply those morals to.
Same here...
Really? Have you listened to the media and looked at the pictures of the bruised and bloodied woman yet?
And the reason you came up with was 'hormones'. That's lame Buster, and surely you can see why it's getting a reaction?
He IS getting a second chance though?
What you want is no consequences which is a dangerous message.
Yeah but he has to play football in Spain, with full pay…. How is he not the victim here?!
That won't happen.
People on here have a hard time letting go of ex-players and managers. I've no doubt this twat will be debated long after he's gone. His thread will just be in the football forum, that'll be the only difference.
Everytime he scores a goal for some other team and our wingers don't it will be an "I told you so" kind of situation, you already see this all over social media
They know Spain is an actual country right?
Is he still with the woman he abused?
If United take him back, that would be correct he would be getting second chance, but the crux of the matter has not yet been resolved, by the club.
There are consequences for someone, but who no one involved directly or indirectly is requesting a consequence for, no case has been proved in law.... as others have stated that's why we have a legal system.
Trial by 'lynch-mob/social media' is effectively what is being suggested, that is the real dangerous message!
If you consider that he's lucky he got a chance at any other club in the top leagues, then he absolutely has been given a second chance. There's no way he's coming back, though.
The lynch mob hyperbole is pretty vile. Are you really comparing him to a victim of racial hatred? Think about what you are posting.
So you admit he did something wrong, implied by 'second chance'.
And if that thing was what it looks like you think only a season loan in sunny Spain on full pay is appropriate. That's no consequences in my book.
Have you actually seen the pictures of the woman? Or listened to the audio?
Yes and they have a child together now.
This seems unnecessarily antagonistic. He’s a United player and therefore it should be up for discussion, you don’t have to be a fan of Greenwood to hold this view.
Poor showing from a mod/staff.
If he didn't want strangers to express their opinions on his treatment of women then he shouldn't have (allegedly) violently assaulted his girlfriend. This isn't trial by social media, it's people not wanting their club to align itself with someone that's (allegedly) violently abused his partner.
As for him not getting a second chance, he is still playing football at a good standard and making an amazing living doing it. He's not been banned from playing or jailed. This absolutely is a second chance and frankly it's more than I think he deserves.
'Lynch mobs' denotes a mentality. One that has applied over the years to the burning of witches, the hanging and burning of people because of their Race, or assumed guilt of a crime, because of their Religion, in more recent times the persecution of people because of their sexuality, it includes, all sorts of actions by mobs... all because of a personal hatred, loathing etc. most of which is drummed up by people who know nothing about whats a stake and care little for justice, either way.
It's of no consequence for you... why?
I admit that I don't know anything about guilt or innocence of Greenwood, but neither does any one else.. it has never been put to the test, pictures/tapes etc released to the press could be real or not we will never know.
That is the whole point he is being judged in the court of public opinion and his career is at United is being threatened. For me the club has so far demonstrated 'feet of clay', which is probably in keeping with everything else that has been falling apart in recent years.
Ah yes, it's the club that's behaved poorly here. Not the (alleged) perpetrator of domestic abuse. Of course.
Why do you keep putting 'alleged' in brackets, I thought you were absolutely sure he was guilty???
Not sure of your convictions perhaps? However willing to denigrate the man without a conviction?
I'm no expert on frontal lobes -- and in fact now that I think about it I'm not an expert in anything -- but I do know that without any public expression of remorse and request for forgiveness that it would be very difficult for the club to accept him back. I haven't followed the situation closely enough to know whether MG has acknowledged his transgressions and expressed remorse.
It's because he's not been proved guilty in a court of law and so if I don't include 'alleged' it opens up the (very slim) possibility that the Caf gets in legal trouble. For what it's worth, it's my personal opinion that he is absolutely guilty.
my exact feelings too, there’s zero chance he plays for United again and I don’t think ANY prem team will take him, can’t wait for him to be sold.
Mason has never claimed they were not real and it stretches credibility to a ridiculous degree to suggest he would not have denied them if he could. The pictures and tapes are most certainly real, some context may be missing but frankly I cannot think of any context that would mitigate the acts that we have seen and heard.
Interesting. She didn't banish him to a different league but instead decided to make the relationship work and is now living with him and their child? But we've determined that his crimes were too much for WE FANS to live with?
Read all 373 pages and then try to come back with an original comment, I certainly cannot be bothered to explain for the 100th time why what you have written is not relevant when 10 minutes of reading will answer your question for you.
Get fecked with this shit. Beyond tiresome.
As Gandalf said, a vast majority of these arguments have been discussed ad nauseam in the preceding hundreds of pages.
It’s like watching lemmings all walk off the same cliff
. Well done. I thought discussing frontal lobe development would be the biggest reach in here today.Are you pretending to be a lawyer in a poor quality TV show?
You're not actually asking questions. You knew they are still together, and the rest of your "questions" are attempts to make rhetorical points. Just say what you mean.
"But they're together and she has forgiven him! They have a child!"
"But we don't know the pictures and audio aren't fake!"
"Something something frontal lobe!"
At this point i don't know if these cretinous and vile arguments are because some of these posters don't see sexual or domestic violence as wrong, or are so obsessed with their sports team being marginally better that they would degrade themselves with spineless amd repugnant arguments to that end.
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I've got a life. I couldn't care any less about a bunch of pretentious arseholes bloviating about a subject for 373 pages--- close to a hundred since the start of 2024 --most of you are absolutely convinced YOUR opinion is the most novel, nuanced, politically correct and sensitive opinion of all. This will sort itself out whether ANY of us are heard or not. For the record, I don't give a single F if he plays for us again but the points I made --as simple as they may appear to be-- seem relevant.
I thought the writing was on the wall a while ago - but seeing that commemorative “250 academy graduates” video recently - and him not included (understandably so) - should have told people the club’s not trying to go anywhere near that
Having a life does not preclude you from basic reading comprehension. Your points were relevant on page 1 but when they have been answered ad nauseum over the last few months it is just lazy and disrespectful to hop into a thread that you claim you "couldn't care less about" and repeat questions that have already been answered multiple times. If your final sentence is true, something I very much doubt, then why on earth did you bother posting in this thread which as we have established you "couldn't care less about"?
Seems like some there's some projection going on here. By the way, how is calling someones genuine skepticism "cretinous" and "Vile" ok? Or is it simple a lazy way to demean the poster without getting banned? Seems like a lot of the usual ...."If you disagree with me it's because you are stupid, misogynist, racist or facist" we see everywhere lately. Do you honestly think ANY civilized person condones ANY type of physical violence? Especially towards a woman.
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