Martin Keown (and friends) vs Ruud van Nistelrooy incident...

Odd thing to say considering the received wisdom was that United bullied Arsenal for much of that period.

So many united fans are absolute masters of completely made up revisionism. Saying we were scared of them is genuinely as bizarre to me as saying Schmeichel wasn’t a good keeper. We see it all the time here, absolute shallow nonsense opinions that seem to take flight with no basis, Alex Ferguson was limited tactically, Ryan Giggs wasn’t actually that good he just had longevity, and the latest Roy bloody keane was scared of tall people. It’s mind boggling. I’m all for a different opinion but just making stuff up is bizarre.
 
What I hated most was Wenger’s interview after the game, he blamed Van Nistelroot for the entire insistent even though he just stood there whilst Arsenal players pushed him around. Even to this day Keown acts like Van Nistelrooy deserves what happened to him. Part of the reason I can’t take him seriously as a pundit.

Vieria kicked out at RVN which was definitely a yellow card which lead to him being sent off. And Keown definitely fouled RVN for the penalty. I still can’t work out why they were so wound up by his ‘antics’ that day.

In the Gary Neville Soccerbox interview with Henry he asked him about this incident and the Vieira vs Keane trouble.

Henry said that the Vieira vs Keane thing in the tunnel was something they did to protect Reyes after the Nevilles had kicked him off the park in the match before. But the attack on Nistelrooy was because according to Henry, Ruud had tried to get 3-4 Arsenal-players sent off earlier in the game, so that was just a lot of frustration and anger boiling over
 
So many united fans are absolute masters of completely made up revisionism. Saying we were scared of them is genuinely as bizarre to me as saying Schmeichel wasn’t a good keeper. We see it all the time here, absolute shallow nonsense opinions that seem to take flight with no basis, Alex Ferguson was limited tactically, Ryan Giggs wasn’t actually that good he just had longevity, and the latest Roy bloody keane was scared of tall people. It’s mind boggling. I’m all for a different opinion but just making stuff up is bizarre.

Schmeichel was a brilliant keeper - but he was at fault for a hell of a lot of goals against. So I would pick DDG over Schmeichel
 
We didn’t do nearly enough. Ruud literally ran off the pitch to get away from them. Our own fecking pitch. Unacceptable.

Everytime I see or hear Keown, I can’t see past this incident.

It was coz the team were on a low at that moment after that penalty was missed. I think they got the apt response for that over the next few years!

They deserve having gone into trophy winning obscurity from then on!
 
I'd love to see a clip of that.

I've tried to find it, to no avail. I think it may have been a Charity Shield match. There is a slight chance it was another of their midfielders (:wenger:) but I recall it as Albert. He was shouting at Neville who looked a bit petrified and Cantona walked up behind him and threw him to the ground, unseen by the ref. Walked away as if nothing had happened. Surely someone knows this better and come up with a clip....
 
I've tried to find it, to no avail. I think it may have been a Charity Shield match. There is a slight chance it was another of their midfielders (:wenger:) but I recall it as Albert. He was shouting at Neville who looked a bit petrified and Cantona walked up behind him and threw him to the ground, unseen by the ref. Walked away as if nothing had happened. Surely someone knows this better and come up with a clip....

I can imagine the throw, but can't imagine G Nev looking petrified. Especially not by Albert! The only one Albert intimidated was Juninho!
 
The incident was disgraceful, as was the lack of punishment.

But anyway feck em, they've been a joke ever since. And no matter how much they over-hype the achievement of going unbeaten, they know pretty much every other big English club can boast a better achievement.
 
I can imagine the throw, but can't imagine G Nev looking petrified. Especially not by Albert! The only one Albert intimidated was Juninho!

Memory is a flawed thing :lol: Turns out, it was completely different to how I recalled. Neville wasn't intimidated, Cantona was promptly booked and it was totally obvious what he did, not some pink panther move at all.

See it here from min 6.
 
Memory is a flawed thing :lol: Turns out, it was completely different to how I recalled. Neville wasn't intimidated, Cantona was promptly booked and it was totally obvious what he did, not some pink panther move at all.

See it here from min 6.

Ah the 90's.... when they used to let dinner ladies referee the Premier League and they still did a better job than todays.
 
Memory is a flawed thing :lol: Turns out, it was completely different to how I recalled. Neville wasn't intimidated, Cantona was promptly booked and it was totally obvious what he did, not some pink panther move at all.

See it here from min 6.

Oh the memories, I was on holiday in Norfolk as a kid, and had to be allowed to come down and watch the highlights!

How small does Durkin look. Looks like a child!