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Martin Dubravka | signs for United
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That's just not even slightly true
Might as well get him in too along with FDJ and Antony.
Do we still have time to sign a RB?
Do we still have time to sign a RB?
You make a good point about the style of play dictating what facets of a keeper are highlighted by statistics.
I don't really know much about Dubravka, but I wouldn't judge his ability on Newcastle's methods under the likes of Steve Bruce.
Can anyone explain our strategy for goalkeepers?
One of the leagues highest earning goalkeepers is out on loan. We have a decent backup goalkeeper in Tom Heaton, but are still looking to loan Dubravka, who got displaced by Nick Pope. Is Heaton so bad that he can't be our backup goalkeeper?
The third goalie should be some young talent learning the ropes rather than one of Newcastle's rejects in my eyes. We did something similar a couple years ago with Grant as well. I just don't get it.
Not at all. Young and talented keepers need game time ideally as first choice, not to sit on the bench. Heaton was always a 3rd choice. It is difficult to have a decent 2nd choice keeper. Dúbravka is not a reject at all. He is not too old nor too young to want too much game time. Loan with an option to buy for 5mil sounds ideal to me. Cheap and good enough. We are clearly not going to replace DDG this summer. I agree that we need a replacement but that's a different story.
So Howe basically confirmed this is happening.
Can't see why Newcastle would keep him, they have Darlow to be their number 2.
Can't see why Newcastle would keep him, they have Darlow to be their number 2.
We need a third keeper, there's no fee for him. It means DDG is number 1 this season, so that's OK for now.
I think we do need to invest in another CM and a forward/fullback though.
I think we do need to invest in another CM and a forward/fullback though.
It seems like Benitez signed him for his ability to play out from the back, sweep and command his area whilst also being vocal in the back-line. He didn't play long under Benitez and spent most of his time at Newcastle playing under Steve Bruce.
Below are quotes which might suggest the type of profile Dubravka is.
THE Guardian: "I like to play as a right‑winger,” said the Slovakia international whose stunning display in his debut at home against Manchester United helped to consign them
to a 1-0 defeat. “Sometimes I play outfield in training and the coaches say: ‘Why are you a goalkeeper, maybe you could change to being a midfielder?’ But it’s too late – my father and grandfathers were keepers and I’m tall.”
Dubravka’s outstanding footwork represents a big reason why Benítez has transplanted this quintessential sweeper-keeper to Tyneside. “In modern football the keeper’s almost like a libero. You need to play with the ball, not just kick it long,” the 29-year-old said as he prepared for Saturday’s trip to Bournemouth. “When I get possession the manager wants me to try to play football.”
"Nonetheless Benítez does not need a shrinking violet during a critical period when Islam Slimani, his loanee striker from Leicester, will miss at least three more games with a thigh injury. “He wants me to be loud and to talk to people, to help them and be confident on crosses,” Dubravka said." “I don’t want to look like I’m arrogant, just like I have enough confidence to help the guys. If I can see a striker three metres behind my defender, I’ll tell him. We need to know we’re all equal on the pitch. I don’t care if someone’s been here for five years, we have to fight together for the points.”
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/23/martin-dubravka-goalkeeper-newcastle-bournemouth
Below are quotes which might suggest the type of profile Dubravka is.
THE Guardian: "I like to play as a right‑winger,” said the Slovakia international whose stunning display in his debut at home against Manchester United helped to consign them
to a 1-0 defeat. “Sometimes I play outfield in training and the coaches say: ‘Why are you a goalkeeper, maybe you could change to being a midfielder?’ But it’s too late – my father and grandfathers were keepers and I’m tall.”
Dubravka’s outstanding footwork represents a big reason why Benítez has transplanted this quintessential sweeper-keeper to Tyneside. “In modern football the keeper’s almost like a libero. You need to play with the ball, not just kick it long,” the 29-year-old said as he prepared for Saturday’s trip to Bournemouth. “When I get possession the manager wants me to try to play football.”
"Nonetheless Benítez does not need a shrinking violet during a critical period when Islam Slimani, his loanee striker from Leicester, will miss at least three more games with a thigh injury. “He wants me to be loud and to talk to people, to help them and be confident on crosses,” Dubravka said." “I don’t want to look like I’m arrogant, just like I have enough confidence to help the guys. If I can see a striker three metres behind my defender, I’ll tell him. We need to know we’re all equal on the pitch. I don’t care if someone’s been here for five years, we have to fight together for the points.”
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/23/martin-dubravka-goalkeeper-newcastle-bournemouth
We've fecked around in the keeper department due to de geas seasonal hot and coldness. We should have sold him seasons ago for consistency sake. Had Henderson stayed on for a couple months he'd be our no1 right now but understandably he's off.
I don't get it, seems like a very stupid move that.
He is 30+, he had a somewhat a good year a while back, his first PL season or maybe second. Sure. But he has regressed seriously since then, i never seen him being good with his feet either.
Again i mean what are our scouts, etc, etc doing i don't know. Surely there had to be better options.
He is 30+, he had a somewhat a good year a while back, his first PL season or maybe second. Sure. But he has regressed seriously since then, i never seen him being good with his feet either.
Again i mean what are our scouts, etc, etc doing i don't know. Surely there had to be better options.
Pointless signing to me but this club loves signing a random goalkeeper. Heaton is as fine as a number two
They’re fecked if they ever have to give Darlow a run, guys terrible, Dubravka is a good keeper
What about number 3?
Decent deal if it's a loan.
You need three goalkeepers nowadays.
He is not, he hasn't played a competitive game in almost 3 years.
He's the least exciting signing since Lee Grant
We already have a 30+ GK as backup.
Why do we need another??
Why do we need another??
You need 3 keepers. Season is long.
Dobra-vodka is not that bad at all.
Anyone saying we don’t need him hasn’t really though through what happens if de Gea gets injured for a month or 2. Heaton is absolutely not sufficient for consistent playing time in the league. Dubravka had a pretty good season last year and would provide some solid cover if our number 1 gets injured.
Reckon this is our final incoming transfer for this summer.
Definitely need Dubravka or someone of similar quality in goal soon.
We just can’t rely on DeGea for much longer. I watched the goal we conceded against Liverpool the other night, which resulted from DeGea yet again parrying a shot straight into the oncoming path of Salah.
We just can’t rely on DeGea for much longer. I watched the goal we conceded against Liverpool the other night, which resulted from DeGea yet again parrying a shot straight into the oncoming path of Salah.
We. Are. MASSIVE.
Just sign Sergio Rochet, ideally before the next local derby. International keeper, will be starting at the next World Cup and 3-4m would do it.
11 consecutive clean sheets earlier this season
11 consecutive clean sheets earlier this season
I can see the sense in this.
With the way the prices are going, if De Gea got injured it would be way too expensive to put the Heaton on.
With the way the prices are going, if De Gea got injured it would be way too expensive to put the Heaton on.
Heaton's shit. Looked way out of his depth during pre-season
Interesting quotes. I've never really had him pegged as anything more than a shot stopper really but that might be more down to the style Bruce employed at Newcastle.
I'd still take that with a pinch of salt, mind. Eddie Howe is a coach who likes to play football and has replaced Dubravka with Nick Pope who isn't exactly famed for being a goalkeeper who can play from the back.
Yeah I found these quotes interesting too
He's a decent keeper and I guess his biggest asset playing the ball out from the back is why Ten Hag wants him
Yeah if he can do that I am on board
2 is ample,
I don't think Dean played more than three games last season and I don't think Tom played any!
I agree, being a 3rd choice keeper is one of the weirdest roles in football.
Many of the 3rd choice keepers are there as sudo assistant GK coaches.
It's not just about games, it's about training too, as there are various ways of organising things where having the extra GK is useful. I.E. allowing you to divide/work sessions differently or allowing your main goalkeepers to work on training relevant to them while your third is the one getting shot at by outfield players as part of their drills.
He is a very good backup, and I'd be content with the signing. He will probably only play in the league cup and potentially early FA cup games.
One of the most under-rated aspects of goalkeeping that has been lost at the club.
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