Ferguson would have loved Fellaini - both his ability and attitude.
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Ferguson would have loved Fellaini - both his ability and attitude.
If Fergie had him he'd of course use him to his advantage like José now. Thing is, I don't think Fergie would've ever signed him. Not because he's a snob who looks down on target men (Sheringham was fantastic) but because, unlike Teddy, he doesn't offer much else. Fellaini was around whilst Fergie was here and we never seemed to look the slightest bit interested in him.
I'm not denying his usefulness. I've said I'd start him now further fowards. I just think we should look for players who have more about them than winning long balls in the future. I'm hoping he starts vs City, personally.
Can we stop this hater tag? I have no problem with the man himself.
I also think he has two other strong qualities. First being his first touch - very consistent at trapping the ball. 2nd is his ball retention under pressure. I've seen big players be very loose with the ball so, despite their height and strength advantage, they get dispossessed quite easily, unlike Fellaini who keeps the ball close whilst holding off players.
Yerry Mina about Everton:
Fellaini is an inspiration to all kids.
Fellaini is an inspiration to all kids.
That is precisely where your bias shows through and you started projecting your own misguided beliefs ob to Fergie. Fegie had left Fellaini on the list of players he reccomenfed United to buy as he left. Because he like other managers of Ubited understood the value if a Fellaini. A player who is tactically dillegent, a defensive shield at setpieces, hardly ever loses the ball when it gets to him, is aerially dorminant in midfield, a genuine goal threat and the perfect key to breaking any press on the ccounter.
That is because before his last 2 seasons as boss Fergie largely had a well stocked midfield and needed players of the Kagawa ilk more. It had zilch to do with not thinking Fellaini was useful.
Puhlease. You keep telling us time and again 'all he offers is aerial ball recovery' to paraphrase. That is the perfect example of denying his usefulness.
Yet you readily ignore everything else he brings to the table and declare he is only about his aerial ability.....making one wonder what you expect us to call you in such a scenario......
Exactly. I can easily imagine Fergie employing his 4-2-3-1/4-3-3-/4-4-1-1 with Fellaini playing just between midfield and the lone forward. There to not only wreck havoc in the opponents 18, but to give the opposong DM pure hell. He'd also have maximised hos height with crosses and cross field long balls during transitions. Especially in big games. Then I could see him utilising him in the heart of midfield vs a small team in a 4-4-2 to quasi shield his midfield playmaker, whilst also using him as a 3rd option attacking the box.
God it is tiresome seeing the lengths people will go to avoid just saying he's a pretty good all round footballer for all positions and all needs. It's embarrassing.
Fellaini is an offensive/defensive match winner, what's not to love?
Good player yes, but you have to admit he's limited. Wouldn't have him in a midfield two, and he's not doing half of what Carrick or more recently Pogba can do on the ball.
The only one that fancies Fellaini over Pogba is Graeme Souness.
I've never heard of this list but, if true, I'm fine in admitting I'm wrong there.
Even if it's true that doesn't change my opinion on the player himself as I didn't agree with Fergie on everything. I think he's poor and, when he thought our contract offer wasn't good enough last year and was thinking of leaving, the lack of clubs interested was telling.
A goal threat? For someone who we base our game around, I think he's a poor goal threat. 4 goals last year - same as Smaliing in the PL. The season before where he played more, he only scored once in the PL.
I disagree that we had a well stocked midfield. In his last couple of years we had Carrick as our only quality CM and we still never looked interested in him. Anderson was injury prone, Cleverley missed most of 11/12, Fletcher was ill, Jones was a CB but we had to use him there at times.
I don't disagree that Fergie would've thought he'd have been a good squad option, but I still think his lack of ability elsewhere would've meant he wouldn't have pursued him.
In my opinion, that is all he offers. He's a limited passer, can't dribble, doesn't score much, can't tackle, gives away fouls in silly areas which, admittedly, is unfair for him as the refs are more keen to blow the whistle on him for nearly anything.
We bring him on to defend long balls into the box or to pump balls up to him if we're behind. When he starts as a deep CM, he's poor because he doesn't offer anything else. Unless de Gea is using him as an outlet, but I think our players should offer more than that.
Just because I don't rate him highly doesn't mean I hate him. You'd have a point if I insulted him but I don't insult anyone. People are too quick to label people.
For what it's worth, I think he'll do well today as an outlet. Your point about him being key to break through the press is something I agree with, too.
The problem with people who think Fellaini is useless because they never watch him play for Belgium.
He has a decent touch, he can pass decently and has a good long range shot.
At United he is not used the right way
He is not a player who is going to dribble thru
HE is a goal threat that when he is in the box all other defenders panic and try to mark him and leave other players alone.
He is a very impact and important player in our current team.
He has a decent touch, he can pass decently and has a good long range shot.
At United he is not used the right way
He is not a player who is going to dribble thru
HE is a goal threat that when he is in the box all other defenders panic and try to mark him and leave other players alone.
He is a very impact and important player in our current team.
If he plays today, then he will allow us to beat City's press.
Simply has to play today. Particularly if Pogba is out.
Criminally underrated player. City beat us with 2 set pieces last season I bet wouldn’t happen with him in the squad. Better than Matic currently.
Memories of lvg playing Liverpool off the park at anfield with Fellaini and Herrera
Memories of lvg playing Liverpool off the park at anfield with Fellaini and Herrera
True enough. An apt reference. All things are possible.
Will have to carry us today with Pogba out
Considering the praise he gets from some here, you would think he would have signed for Barca this summer considering he was free to go and he wanted to go, plus he isn't on some big wages, and it was just some Turkish team that was after him
He has his uses, he is decent squad player, who brings some good things in certain games and that's about it, I think people should calm down with the praise more than that. For all his good games he has appaling games quite often too when he doesn't bring absolutely anything to the table, and his goalscoring record for a "forward" player is really disappointing. His injury record is also quite bad too, many times when we actually needed him he was out of the team.
He has his uses, he is decent squad player, who brings some good things in certain games and that's about it, I think people should calm down with the praise more than that. For all his good games he has appaling games quite often too when he doesn't bring absolutely anything to the table, and his goalscoring record for a "forward" player is really disappointing. His injury record is also quite bad too, many times when we actually needed him he was out of the team.
Hope his chest is on point.
If played correctly today, Fellaini could dominate a City midfield who, despite being technically brilliant, are quite small and weak.
I predict he's going to bully City and have a cracker of a game. Com one Fella!!
I predict the same thing.
He's a big game player, but let's not jinx him.
Man City 3:1 Man Utd
We seem to always have this cycle with Fellaini. He plays well as an impact sub in a game where we’re throwing the kitchen sink by winning a few balls in the final third.
He then somehow finds a place in central midfield where he looks completely off the pace and his limitations come to the fore. He’ll disappear to the bench again for a little while and this whole process will repeat again in about two months.
He then somehow finds a place in central midfield where he looks completely off the pace and his limitations come to the fore. He’ll disappear to the bench again for a little while and this whole process will repeat again in about two months.
Looked lost. Never got near their midfielders.
Our best player today. He usually performs well against big teams. Doesn't shit himself in possession like the rest (especially Herrera)
He's one of our most reliable players, he may not be blessed with silky skill but he's still got a great skill set and a ton of heart. He was the only player today who did himself justice. I know it's an unpopular opinion but I would have him in out strongest 11 currently, he dereves to start more than most.
He played well. Hard playing against the City midfield when you've got Matic and Herrera alongside you putting in 1/10 performances.
Love him. A reliable player that's for sure.
Fellaini will be praised today for passing the ball in a straight line. That’s the benchmark at which some people judge him.
It’s baffling. Some of the people that want to do right by Fellaini and praise him actually do him a disservice. He’s significantly better than what he demonstrated today. Of course, it’s difficult to blame individual players when the entire team is so disjointed.
I thought he was our MOM.
Dropped back into defence well, he stopped their aerial attacks by himself early on.
Didn’t shit himself when he had the ball either, unlike some others.
Always gives his all.
Dropped back into defence well, he stopped their aerial attacks by himself early on.
Didn’t shit himself when he had the ball either, unlike some others.
Always gives his all.
He didnt visibily feck up so probably a decent game for him. Bit disappointed he couldnt force another undeserved goal for us at the end.
MOTM. Herrera & Matic were the headless chicken today.
Our best player, but God knows why Jose played him as our deepest midfielder.
One of the few that can leave the pitch with his head held up high.
He played really well, only player who took up fight.
Can't believe some people say he is bad.
Can't believe some people say he is bad.
He did well in first half but looked lost in the second, the fact we choose to play someone like him or matic at base of our midfield is a huge issue.
Thought he was our best player. Ran his socks off and passed really well.
Whenever they countered he was the first man back.
Whenever they countered he was the first man back.
Of course when he has to play all by himself he is going to tire himself out. He should have been put up top and slung balls into their box yet Jose put him in a two man midfield and dropped him into midfield. Yes he was our best player today.
Our only player who didn't shit his pants when a City player was near him, so for that I give him credit.
4/10. No lack of effort but no match against the quality of players he was up against.
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