Ryan7
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Good performance from him today. Didn't look out of his depth against a big team for a change. Almost grabbed the equaliser as well.
Yeah. That's fair. He was all over. As an attacker though I think he's more dangerous in an advanced role.
Agree with those who have said Fellaini's all round game is underrated here, he proved at Everton that it was at least good enough to function as a midfielder at PL level. That isn't to say he's technically excellent or anything near it but neither is he the talent vacuum some people like to portray him as.
That said, his defensive capabilities were seriously overrated before he came here too so at least there was a nice balance to people's misconceptions of him.
What game did you watch exactly?
Sesme like some people just wont let go, some even wont say he's been good.
This 4141 formation might be the perfect formation for Fellaini. He had a great game. And if you are familiar with my (negative)opinion of him then you should know how good a game he had.He was very good today, nullified chelsea's superior midfield mostly. Played box to box, any criticism is just cognitive bias.
Why? He was United's best player.
I think some people form opinions on players before they've set foot on the pitch.
He is so, so poor defensively and off the ball.
I did and still do believe. I was in the newbs then and had a thread about how Fellaini will be an important player for us.
He'll perform like this again but in 5-10 games he'll have one crap game and all of you will shite on him again.
Probably deserves to play versus City, and could use his physicality. But not sure where he fits. This as a front 6?
Rooney RVP/ Falcao
Fellaini ADM Herrera
Blind
I watched the same game as you. I gave my opinion and explained why. I was in no way derogatory towards Fellaini nor people who rated his performance - I was in no way degrading of Fellaini as a player overall.
For the record, compared to most of this forum I am far from a Fellaini detractor. However I hate it when he is deployed as a box-to-box midfielder as he plays it in a way that I completely disagree with, and I personally find that frustrating to watch. If you have a problem with that then explain yourself - don't make ridiculous sweeping, personal assumptions and make smug, dismissive posts.
--------------------Falcao----------------------
Di Maria-----------Rooney-----------Januzaj
----------------Blind----Fellaini---------------
-------------Falcao----Rooney---------
-------------------Fellaini---------------
----------Di Maria-------Herrera-------
--------------------Blind-----------------
-----------------------------Falcao---------------------
Di Maria----Rooney/Herrera-----Fellaini-----Januzaj
-------------------------------Blind----------------------
all have their merits and weaknesses. And then there's Carrick still to come in as well. First time in a long time I've felt like we've had good competition for places through the midfield/attack. Lots of players, including Fellaini, deserve to start at the moment which can only be a good thing.
Why is guarded praise understandable? If a player puts in a good performance then you should be able to praise that performance. If he had played badly today then I really doubt that people here would be holding back on criticising him on the grounds that he had a good game on Monday.
Im going to repeat something I have said several times - Fellaini was signed on the last minute of deadline day, he had no preseason and played half of last season with a wrist injury. He was seen as a "Moyes Man" and was also presented to us as the CM signing that we desperately needed, when most were expecting a Kroos, Thiago or Fabregas. We paid over the odds as well.
None of that is Fellainis fault, but pretty much from day 1 he has had the fans on his back and against him. He was not a popular signing and most fans made up their minds on him very quickly. Last season was an unmitigated disaster, and for most of the squad that seems to be good enough grounds for writing off their performances - "because the entire team was shit last year." Yet with Fellaini this logic isnt extended to him - his performances last year were purely because he is apparently rubbish, even though - as explained above - he had more mitigating circumstances than most of the squad (no pre-season, playing with an injury etc).
I could go on, but honestly im not going to waste my time because when it comes to trying to defend Fellaini on here, it is like talking to a brick wall.
edit: As others have said though those who are so surprised that Fellaini can actually control the ball well, pass well, tackle well etc - obviously didnt watch him at Everton. His all-round game is massively underrated on here.
Why was he rubbish?If that amazed you then you never watched him play as a box to box midfielder at Everton then.
Strange. I think he did all those things. Against WBA he ran to the box too much. Today not.He just isn't doing what I think central midfielder should do. Pretty simple things really, as a midfielder he should be controlling the things, be more involved in the build up and not just waiting for every situation to run in the box for us to hoof the ball instead of being available as an option for the pass. Blind had 58 passes, that's almost 20 more passes than him, Smalling and Rojo almost had double passes than him, all with more accuracy. As a central midfielder for Manchester United that shouldn't happen IMO, so I have no idea how can he get MOTM from some people for this.
Just to be clear, he wasn't bad, but I just can't understand how he can get MOTM for a average performance like this.
Well sometimes that's the case, but not always and not in my case. Whenever someone isn't happy with Fellaini some of you think it's because that person doesn't like him.
Dont be such a drama queen, my 2nd sentence wasnt about you in particular.
Today he wasnt frustrating to watch, quite the opposite, played a box to box mid and played very good, kept it simple, connected defense and final 3rd well and defensively was on mark to.
Oh come ooon, it wasnt that bad.My main problem with your post was the open line. "What game were you watching?" Arrogant and patronizing. Would you talk like that to someone in person in response to them explaining their opinion?
Why the feck are some people completely incapable of conversing in a civil matter on the internet. (Oh, but I don't mean you in particular)
If you didn't find Fellaini frustrating that's great for you. I did, as he lumbered slowly away from where he should have been and waited for a long ball. Call me crazy but I actually like my midfielders to contribute to build up play and to help work the ball into dangerous positions. If Fellaini could do that and arrive into the box late and cause problems, great. Him standing in the box whilst we try to maneuver the ball into a crossing position is ineffective and we will not score enough goals with this tactic.