Reverted to type.
Hopefully, he doesn't have a long term future here.
Hopefully, he doesn't have a long term future here.
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His best form came about playing on the left supported by Young and Blind. I'm not sure why LvG changed that tactic. I do agree he should not be a starter or long term solution. I'm not sure what roles best suits his qualities. The coaches also seem to be confused with assigning him with different roles over the last 2 seasons.
I hope United consider selling him this summer whilst his stock is high.
I hope United consider selling him this summer whilst his stock is high.
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He was doing well on the left until LVG started tinkering again.
His position yesterday, to the right in a more orthodox central midfield spot, suggests to me that Van Gaal tried to change it up after Fellaini got found out at Chelsea and Everton.
Thing is, he's barely average as a central midfield player. His continued inclusion against WBA smacked of conservatism - why not go for a dribbler in the AdM or Januzaj mould?
It was clear as day that WBA would be physically up to the task of dealing with aerial balls and that they'd sit in waiting for us to break them down. With that context, not sure how Fellaini was deemed to be a good pick.
As you say, he's done enough this season to justify a decent fee from someone wishing to buy him. He's not right for us - never has been.
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Big mistake putting him striker. The CBs found it easy to pick him up then because he was right on top of them. He started on the right, but I don't know why we didn't try him on the left yesterday.
what nonsense.Not sure why he was moved up front, RvP was at least looking semi-dangerous in that first half. Anyway, he was basically the same as everyone else on the pitch. The whole team was average.
Not sure why he was moved up front, RvP was at least looking semi-dangerous in that first half. Anyway, he was basically the same as everyone else on the pitch. The whole team was average.
It's not nonsense. He's not and never has been the sort of player we should be looking to. He's good enough in a certain type of system to have an impact, but it's not what we should be aspiring to in the long run.
Yet he looked good enough when we were playing Spurs, Liverpool and City off the park? That system seemed to work just fine for everyone. He's certainly contributed more than Di Maria, yet people constantly plead for him to start. It's just strange that Fellaini is the whipping boy after a bad performance. It's fine though, a lot of people knew that it would happen after his form dropped the slightest bit.
Not sure why you're bringing Di Maria into this. He's rightly been sat on the bench and you won't find me arguing with that.
Fellaini did very well in the matches you mentioned, when we set up with very specific tactics that played to his strengths. As soon as teams have cottoned on to him (Chelsea and Everton) or when Van Gaal has moved him into a more orthodox central midfield position, his effectiveness has plummeted.
He's a useful player to have around, but as we look to develop, I would hope he's phased out of contention.
That's why I mentioned Di Maria, because you were saying he should be starting.
I don't think two matches is enough to say teams have cottoned on to him. We played fine against Chelsea anyway, even with him being quiet. There was no need for van Gaal to shift him around so radically I don't think.
Thought he did well as striker. We could play the ball in to his feet and he shielded it effectively. Turned the CBs a couple of times and allowed us to advance our position into their box. Sure the CBs could "pick him up", but they couldnt do anything about it.
My concern with Fellaini remaining at the club is that LvG always reverts to just lumping the ball up to him when we are chasing a game and, by large, that hasn't been too successful.
I'm not his biggest fan and he doesn't seem to offer anything than being a target man and a fairly poor one at that.
Can't see any other top class manager keeping him if he came in but LvG seems to love him.
I'm not his biggest fan and he doesn't seem to offer anything than being a target man and a fairly poor one at that.
Can't see any other top class manager keeping him if he came in but LvG seems to love him.
I think he will be relegated to situational squad player next year once we buy a top midfielder and attacker. He will come in handy in various situations that require a more physical/aerial approach against different opponents.
Regardless of his performances prior to the game yesterday, this guy is miles away from the team technically. Yes we can lump it up to him in desperate situations but he showed in the first half if we're expecting him to play intricate football then he's not up to it.
As for putting him up front, I found it quite worrying. Surely leaving Van Persie up top and bringing on more creativity behind him in the form of Januzaj or Di Maria would have been a better option, if only aesthetically.
As for putting him up front, I found it quite worrying. Surely leaving Van Persie up top and bringing on more creativity behind him in the form of Januzaj or Di Maria would have been a better option, if only aesthetically.
Fellaini will always be useful in certain games so id rather we keep him. He is a very good squad player and a great option to bring off the bench when our plan A isn't working. We didn't really need his physicality yesterday though.
In fairness, what I said was that we should have started a player in the Di Maria or Januzaj mould - i.e. a dribbler.
Generally speaking, Di Maria can have no complaints about being on the bench.
But what I dont understand is that we have better players for his position yet he's still picked. He can play a specific role in a specific set up but only in selected games. Once he's taking care of by an opposite player, he doesnt find another way and stops contributing
I honestly believe the people who think he will just be a squad player next year may be in for a shock. He is arguably one of the first names on LVG's teamsheet.
I don't really remember, has he ever had a good game for us when he played no.10 or as a striker?
We better be prepared for shithouse football for the majority of the season then
By the same logic, Di Maria can purchase a warm blanket and some cocoa because he is going to spend the winter on the bench.
More the point, we had better be prepared for shithouse posts in the Fellaini threads.
We've played good football with Fellaini in the team so this is bollocks.
The blame lies squarely on our tactics and by extension on Van Gaal. Why do we revert to hoofball whenever we're under pressure to score a goal? We did that against Swansea as well. Played well for most of the game until they scored and then inexplicably resorted to playing hoofball. I can understand reverting to it with a couple of minutes to go as a last resort
If we get a half decent offer for him in the summer he has to go. He just looks awkward playing in midfield.
Imagine going into the Champions League with him starting regularly.
Imagine going into the Champions League with him starting regularly.
We played good football against teams who seek to actually attack and play positively, which is about 5 sides in the league. The rest are content to sit deep where we need creativity and players with technique in tight areas to thrive. The propensity for hoof is innate when Fellaini is in the side. That's why he must be a reactive squad/sub option or sold.
Then we better prepare ourselves for long term mediocrity.
Who was good for us against Chelsea and Everton? As far as I know, everyone's effectiveness was 'plummeted', not just Fellaini's. I mean, where was Herrera, Mata, Rooney, etc?
No, no, it was all Fellaini. Get with the program Walters.
Of course, ye. Silly me.
Precious.
I'm going to quote this post again after he scores a huge game-winning goal in a knockout game of the CL next season
.#spacegoat
I'm going to quote this post again after he scores a huge game-winning goal in a knockout game of the CL next season
Feel free. If we play any of the better sides in the Champions League he won't even get a kick of the ball.
Look at how he played vs Bayern.
You do remember that he was our MotM when we played Chelsea in the first half of the season? And generally his best performances have all been in the big games this year?
In these last 2 days of CL, I've failed to see where would Fellaini fit in any of those teams.
Needs dropping for Palace, only bring him on if we get desperate...... sick of the sight of him tbh.
Come off it man. Look at the Juve v Madrid, and Bayern v Barca games.
He'd be so out of place it's unreal. We used to be a top 4/6 side in Europe under Ferguson, and now we are so far behind its unreal. That's the level we should be aiming to be at.
He wouldn't. But then again, not many of our players would.
Far too much mediocrity at the club.
Exactly. Peoples standards have dropped significantly.
We went from being one of the top sides in Europe, with some of the best players, to regularly playing Ashley Young, Fellaini, Smalling, Blind etc.
People are ok with this as well. Completely mind boggling. If we were to play Barca or Bayern in the CL next year, they'd take 6 off of us.
Yep and it's enough to make you cry.
Barca & co are all playing this beautiful football going for the biggest prize there is, and we are left fretting about how we can beat Crystal Palace on Saturday just to get into the pre qualifiers for the dam thing!
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