Marko Arnautović | United have pulled out

dinostar77 said:
It might be a numbers game Sesko according to the papers Utd are still working on. Arnaotivc is someone he has worked with before. Can hold up the ball. For a outlay of €8mil its cheap. Besides he probably has a budget hes working with. Also arnaotivc has off the firld characteristics that will help with the dressing room.
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I think Sesko is staying until next summer
 
Judas said:
The talk of him being a good person to have in the dressing room is really boggling my mind. Blokes a racist prick.
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Who said he'd be a "good person" for the dressing room? :lol:
 
I can hear it now.
"This is what it means to be small!
You sign Arnautovic we sign Erling Halaaaand!"
 
This club is absolutely pathetic. Last year at this point we got in "Champions League Varane", one of the best CBs in the past decade (who got benched for a midget yesterday) and now we're scrambling around for a 33-year old racist twat.
 
slored1 said:
This club is absolutely pathetic. Last year at this point we got in "Champions League Varane", one of the best CBs in the past decade (who got benched for a midget yesterday) and now we're scrambling around for a 33-year old racist twat.
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Not denying the racist twat part, but I think the Champions League Varane comparison is a bit unfortunate, he didn't exactly set the world alight
 
sullydnl said:
In theory, the club should have oversight on recruitment. Just as the manager should have a veto. That way you ensure the worst mistakes are avoided.

But this summer I have no issue with the manager having particularly heavy say in recruitment, as the club itself seemed to to recognise that its own recruitment set-up wasn't up to scratch when it shed its two chief scouts as part of an overhaul just weeks before the transfer window opened. So, fine. It reflects terribly on the club, but different rules apply for this transfer window.

The issue I have with the Arnautovic signing isn't that it's an ETH-driven target. It's that I don't believe it could be anything other than a signing right from the very bottom of the list of ETH-driven targets. A signing you only resort to in an emergency situation where the club has failed to secure multiple better options in that position the manager wanted.

In other words it's almost exactly the same thing Van Gaal (and others) complained about. We signed players, we were told they were his choices, then he later pointed out they were his choices after the club failed to secure all the players he wanted more.

ETH wanting Arnautovic once he's put in a situation where its Arnautovic or nothing isn't really the same as him wanting Arnautovic. And to your Conte comparison, I don't think any of Bissouma, Richarlison, Perisic or Lenglet were as far down on his list of options as Arnautovic is for ETH. They actually secured his higher priority targets to a degree we've failed to.
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Well that again all depends. I can’t pretend I didn’t see the club say they wanted to sign De Jong over everyone else first and then have to change their strategy. Yes he might be low priority but I’m pretty sure the alternative to Nunez was Richarlison. We allowed that to pass us by due to ETH other preferred options. Which was a club telling us Antony is going to cost north of £60m.

Now the structure I agree with you. But I also believe that the scouts have been used as fall guys for the incompetence ahead of them. We’ve all seen reports of Ruben Diaz but the club preferring Harry Maguire… Now considering this was the same club that said there intelligent football people had told Jose they don’t see Maguire as an improvement on their current CB. I find it hard to believe that Maguire wasn’t a managers choice.

The same goes for Bruno Fernandes although I do believe Ole’s preferred target was James Maddison.

LVG. Well let’s be honest he wanted Muller and Hummels. Whilst vetoed Toni Kroos due to personal issues.

I mentioned Conte as I assume buying Vicktor Moses and Ashley Young wouldn’t have gone down well here.

ETH needs this striker to fit a style he wants to play and for a requirement he needs. I personally believe there must be better options to do this but if the signing means we can spend some decent money on a winger and RB. So be it.
 
If this transfer does indeed happen everyone involved should be sacked on the spot.
 
We can only sign players who played in holland (like athletic bilbao with the basque) familiar with mclaren and ten hag, this is mental, pure amateur level
 
I’ve been cynical with most of these links during this window. I will remain consistent. Irregardless of what BBC says, I don’t feel we’ve made a bid.

It just doesn’t make any sense.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
I’ve been cynical with most of these links during this window. I will remain consistent. Irregardless of what BBC says, I don’t feel we’ve made a bid.

It just doesn’t make any sense.
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Bro we made a bid and will probably get him. If it makes you feel better.. he’s just added depth to the squad.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
I’ve been cynical with most of these links during this window. I will remain consistent. Irregardless of what BBC says, I don’t feel we’ve made a bid.

It just doesn’t make any sense.
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I've been cynical with a lot of the links, because of no good sources, sadly not the case with this one. It's horribly real.

I just hope the huge media and social media backlash is enough to end the deal.
 
Judas said:
I've been cynical with a lot of the links, because of no good sources, sadly not the case with this one. It's horribly real.

I just hope the huge media and social media backlash is enough to end the deal.
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Serious questions still need to asked about whoever came up with the idea
 
3 yrs contract till the age of 37

He already struggle with injuries, didn’t play a single game during the preseason
 
Forget all the spiel about transition, staff and structure overhaul this is a damning indictment of Murtough that he can’t source a striker with qualities that Ten Hag is after.
 
Zoo said:
Forget all the spiel about transition, staff and structure overhaul this is a damning indictment of Murtough that he can’t source a striker with qualities that Ten Hag is after.
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That or making the exact same mistake of just following what the managers want to a ridiculous degree and ignoring the clubs own targets. Again the structure looks bafflingly amateur.
 
This transfer is definitely happening. I've heard we deliberately kept the number 88 shirt free for him.
 
This is why you would rather have Rangnick or any other competent DOF, rather than Murtough. Why would you put him in charge of recruitment and team building when he has zero experience with it for one of our most important rebuild jobs, is beyond me. Watch people defend it too.
 
i'm not panicking about Arnautovic as i assume it's a short term plan so United can get Anthony next summer. And Arnautovic will probably score more goals than Rashford, Sancho or Martial.

But still, I had hoped for greater ambitions when United have had all summer to get a striker to the club:

Man City - Haaland
Liverpool - Nunez
Chelsea - Sterling
Arsenal - Jesus

Man Utd - Arnautovic. :confused:
 
:lol:

While I actually do see the merit of signing Arnautovic on a short-term deal, I can't imagine him being high on Ten Hag's list of priority signings. And for this reason alone: feck this club.
 
Kopral Jono said:
:lol:

While I actually do see the merit of signing Arnautovic on a short-term deal, I can't imagine him being high on Ten Hag's list of priority signings. And for this reason alone: feck this club.
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There's really no merit to it. I'd rather just let Rashford or Eriksen or Bruno whoever play there if it comes to it.

Sign some general purpose attackers for depth like Ziyech.

FFS they were against signing Ziyech because apparently he's not the right age profile and they want to give a 3yr contract to Arnautovic.
 
Highfather_24 said:
Why would you put him in charge of recruitment and team building when he has zero experience with it
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Questions that will always remain without answers

Like becoming the Ceo of Boeing but your only experience is as a barman in a pub.
 
::sonny:: said:
Questions that will always remain without answers

Like becoming the Ceo of Boeing but your only experience is as a barman in a pub.
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Well to be fair, people like Kehl or Salihamidzic also had little experience before taking over that (role) very successfully. There's to PhD course in transfers preparing ideal candidates
 
Murtough must be feeling the heat, now that Modeste is off the market.
 
The De Jong saga needs to be attributed at least 50% to ETH, the other 50% of that saga and everything else is on the Glazers (and more recently Murtough). Sorry sorry state of affairs this club.
 
The length of contract is really worrying, signing is bad enough but a 3 year deal really just makes me think nothings changing or improving behind the scenes.
 
sullydnl said:
In theory, the club should have oversight on recruitment. Just as the manager should have a veto. That way you ensure the worst mistakes are avoided.

But this summer I have no issue with the manager having particularly heavy say in recruitment, as the club itself seemed to to recognise that its own recruitment set-up wasn't up to scratch when it shed its two chief scouts as part of an overhaul just weeks before the transfer window opened. So, fine. It reflects terribly on the club, but different rules apply for this transfer window.

The issue I have with the Arnautovic signing isn't that it's an ETH-driven target. It's that I don't believe it could be anything other than a signing right from the very bottom of the list of ETH-driven targets. A signing you only resort to in an emergency situation where the club has failed to secure multiple better options in that position the manager wanted.

In other words it's almost exactly the same thing Van Gaal (and others) complained about. We signed players, we were told they were his choices, then he later pointed out they were his choices after the club failed to secure all the players he wanted more.

ETH wanting Arnautovic once he's put in a situation where its Arnautovic or nothing isn't really the same as him wanting Arnautovic. And to your Conte comparison, I don't think any of Bissouma, Richarlison, Perisic or Lenglet were as far down on his list of options as Arnautovic is for ETH. They actually secured his higher priority targets to a degree we've failed to.
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Fair post.
 
This is what happens when you have a former Everton fitness coach as your director of football.
 
Is this a joke? What have we become?
 
hellhunter said:
Well to be fair, people like Kehl or Salihamidzic also had little experience before taking over that (role) very successfully. There's to PhD course in transfers preparing ideal candidates
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Kehl got some sports management degree after his career and he spent four years as Zorc's apprentice, before taking over. And he hasn't even finished his first window yet, so it's a bit early to call him a success.

Salihamidzic spent a few years as breakfast director under Hoeneß and Rummenigge, before the old guard left their position.

I don't think the structures between those clubs and United compare.
 
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