Mario Mandžukić

Needham said:
Chelsea tried something like this last year and he was a complete flop.
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Bit different, Higuain really struggled to cope with juventus dumping him, mentally. He got to chelsea via milan, where he was already flopping hard.

Mandzukic is unlikely to have such issues, and i don't think he'd struggle with the intensity if the PL either, given intensity is his best quality. Ideally he could be an excellent move, unlocking martial and rashford in ways United struggles to do atm

That said, i don't trust any player dumped by juventus
 
jderbyshire said:
So we have the most scouts of any club in the world, analyzing hundreds of thousands of players using this giant super computer, wearing bras on their heads.

And out of the smoke walks in Mario Mandzukic?
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:lol:
 
devilish said:
haha....that's a given

Seriously do you think that Allegri would be a good fit for United?
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No idea. Would be interesting to see him in such a role. Team would get good results though
 
What about Piatek at Milan, they need to clear about 150M quid in January due to their financial troubles and he could be a steal, the man can finish and would be a top signing IMO.
 
What's going on here?

People adding wages to the fee to make it sound worse. The caf is turning into the Sun.
 
StrettyEnder07 said:
What about Piatek at Milan, they need to clear about 150M quid in January due to their financial troubles and he could be a steal, the man can finish and would be a top signing IMO.
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Agree, but how much would they want. Dembele is quoted at around 60million, is this right.
 
Bestietom said:
Agree, but how much would they want. Dembele is quoted at around 60million, is this right.
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Not to sure bud, if they are as in as much trouble as is being reported, you could think 50M ish should be enough, maybe less as they need to balance the books.

60M for Dembele? Worries me that he can't even get a start for Lyon haha
 
Ole's fecking clueless. Let's 4 experienced players leave. Sanchez, Lukaku, Fellaini and Herrera.

Then proceeds to say we lack experience... couldn't make this up.

After all the bullshit about buying English players that are hungry he'll now go and get Mandzukic and a midfield journeyman in January. What strategy is that a part of?

Why not just go for the same characteristics in the players whether it's January or August? If they're not available don't sign anyone.
 
MrSingh2002 said:
Ole's fecking clueless. Let's 4 experienced players leave. Sanchez, Lukaku, Fellaini and Herrera.

Then proceeds to say we lack experience... couldn't make this up.

After all the bullshit about buying English players that are hungry he'll now go and get Mandzukic and a midfield journeyman in January. What strategy is that a part of?

Why not just go for the same characteristics in the players whether it's January or August? If they're not available don't sign anyone.
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Trash and didn't want to be here. Herrera leaving was down to Jose, nothing to do with Ole, but dont let your agenda misguide you as you apparently you know exactly what happened in the January 2020 window, in October 2019 :rolleyes:
 
starman said:
Trash and didn't want to be here. Herrera leaving was down to Jose, nothing to do with Ole, but dont let your agenda misguide you as you apparently you know exactly what happened in the January 2020 window, in October 2019 :rolleyes:
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If Ole wanted Herrera he could've re-signed a player that loved playing for the club. Herrera said as much as he left.

Fellaini had just signed a new deal but Ole big bollocks let him go for jack all.

I didn't rate Sanchez or Lukaku but getting rid of Lukaku without replacing him is still as dumb now as when it happened.

But don't let that get in the way of your "agenda".
 
MrSingh2002 said:
If Ole wanted Herrera he could've re-signed a player that loved playing for the club. Herrera said as much as he left.

Fellaini had just signed a new deal but Ole big bollocks let him go for jack all.

I didn't rate Sanchez or Lukaku but getting rid of Lukaku without replacing him is still as dumb now as when it happened.

But don't let that get in the way of your "agenda".
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Why does everyone say “agenda” if they have a different opinion on here, seriously don’t remember this place that way back in the day
 
MrSingh2002 said:
If Ole wanted Herrera he could've re-signed a player that loved playing for the club. Herrera said as much as he left.

Fellaini had just signed a new deal but Ole big bollocks let him go for jack all.

I didn't rate Sanchez or Lukaku but getting rid of Lukaku without replacing him is still as dumb now as when it happened.

But don't let that get in the way of your "agenda".
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:lol:

You're making things up, Ole was not even permanent manager until March. Herrera had hardly played under Jose in his last season and come 1st Jan he was able to speak to other clubs. He has already said he joined PSG because of their on going permanent interest. United didn't make any firm offer until late, it wasn't Ole's fault, blame the board for not keeping on top of things, but you are fabricating things to suit your "agenda".

Lukaku was replaced with Martial. James has replaced Sanchez. The younger players have also been promoted and as regulars to the first team squad
 
Honestly would be a great singing.

Really could do with a player like him in helping our game management.

Would not be against offering him an 18 month contract.
 
PepsiCola said:
Honestly would be a great singing.

Really could do with a player like him in helping our game management.

Would not be against offering him an 18 month contract.
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Wouldve been a great signing a few years ago. He's turning 34 at the end of the season though and his fitness hasn't been the same in this calendar year, and it's looking like he won't play a game for Juve this season. So we'd be signing a late 33 year old after 9 months without a competitive game who has never played in the premier league and who has never been a regular goalscorer. We'd be banking on him rolling back like 5 years in terms of performances to be properly useful. I understand the need for a player like what he used to be, but I don't think theres a good chance we'll get that if he comes.
 
bosnian_red said:
Wouldve been a great signing a few years ago. He's turning 34 at the end of the season though and his fitness hasn't been the same in this calendar year, and it's looking like he won't play a game for Juve this season. So we'd be signing a late 33 year old after 9 months without a competitive game who has never played in the premier league and who has never been a regular goalscorer. We'd be banking on him rolling back like 5 years in terms of performances to be properly useful. I understand the need for a player like what he used to be, but I don't think theres a good chance we'll get that if he comes.
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Hear Hear.
 
bosnian_red said:
Wouldve been a great signing a few years ago. He's turning 34 at the end of the season though and his fitness hasn't been the same in this calendar year, and it's looking like he won't play a game for Juve this season. So we'd be signing a late 33 year old after 9 months without a competitive game who has never played in the premier league and who has never been a regular goalscorer. We'd be banking on him rolling back like 5 years in terms of performances to be properly useful. I understand the need for a player like what he used to be, but I don't think theres a good chance we'll get that if he comes.
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Look at it this way - if we cant get anyone else then (since its january and we are in a bad spot), would you rather we got none?

As an impact sub against low block teams the last 20 I’d think it could make a difference. All that experience means he knows where to be and where the goal is. Also, he can still be a decent hold up player and have some aerial skill.

I dont think he’s anyones first pick, but he’s better than nothing.
 
bosnian_red said:
Wouldve been a great signing a few years ago. He's turning 34 at the end of the season though and his fitness hasn't been the same in this calendar year, and it's looking like he won't play a game for Juve this season. So we'd be signing a late 33 year old after 9 months without a competitive game who has never played in the premier league and who has never been a regular goalscorer. We'd be banking on him rolling back like 5 years in terms of performances to be properly useful. I understand the need for a player like what he used to be, but I don't think theres a good chance we'll get that if he comes.
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I don’t think he’d be signed as a goalscorer, that’s never been his thing, he would be a focal point, as Mourinho mistakenly thought Lukaku might be, to then bring into play the pace of James Rashford and/or Martial, depending which was out injured. He would also be used as a starter against lower placed teams who parked the bus, to pin the centre halves against crosses to create room for midfielders like mctominay to come in and have a pop.
 
fps said:
I don’t think he’d be signed as a goalscorer, that’s never been his thing, he would be a focal point, as Mourinho mistakenly thought Lukaku might be, to then bring into play the pace of James Rashford and/or Martial, depending which was out injured. He would also be used as a starter against lower placed teams who parked the bus, to pin the centre halves against crosses to create room for midfielders like mctominay to come in and have a pop.
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Also, playing for Bayern and Juve which dominated most of their league games, he is very much used to playing against teams which is compact and defensive most of the game, exactly what we are struggling with.
 
fecking hell, not in favour of this signing at all, especially seeing the performance of James and Rashford on Sunday. That mobility and pace will terrorise any defence, not a lumbering old feck walking around.
 
fps said:
I don’t think he’d be signed as a goalscorer, that’s never been his thing, he would be a focal point, as Mourinho mistakenly thought Lukaku might be, to then bring into play the pace of James Rashford and/or Martial, depending which was out injured. He would also be used as a starter against lower placed teams who parked the bus, to pin the centre halves against crosses to create room for midfielders like mctominay to come in and have a pop.
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I see the logic, and I'd be all for that if he could handle it (or if he was a few years younger). What I see him being is just too old and not in shape enough to adapt to the premier league and us being a last pay cheque. He was on the verge of going to China ffs.
Put it this way, I think itd be much closer to 17/18 Ibrahimovic rather than the 16/17 Ibrahimovic, even if you ignore goals.
 
We should have just bought Haller this summer.
 
This proposed deal might hinge on how well Martial plays as striker over coming weeks. You'd imagine he will play centrally with Rash going wide. With Pogba coming back and next 5 games certainly winnable, it may effect any deal for Mandzukic. The call for him came when Rash was struggling and no back up options due to injury, with him now reverting to the wing, now is a chance for Martial to shine. Could still happen, but maybe not as pursued as strongly as it was once was.
 
bosnian_red said:
I see the logic, and I'd be all for that if he could handle it (or if he was a few years younger). What I see him being is just too old and not in shape enough to adapt to the premier league and us being a last pay cheque. He was on the verge of going to China ffs.
Put it this way, I think itd be much closer to 17/18 Ibrahimovic rather than the 16/17 Ibrahimovic, even if you ignore goals.
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I’d agree with that, given his current fitness status has a large question mark over it, I do have concerns this would not be the mandzukic we knew... who in himself never really felt like a Man Utd player.
 
poleglass red said:
This proposed deal might hinge on how well Martial plays as striker over coming weeks. You'd imagine he will play centrally with Rash going wide. With Pogba coming back and next 5 games certainly winnable, it may effect any deal for Mandzukic. The call for him came when Rash was struggling and no back up options due to injury, with him now reverting to the wing, now is a chance for Martial to shine. Could still happen, but maybe not as pursued as strongly as it was once was.
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We need more than one striker until summer even if Martial is injury free rest of the campaign.
 
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definitely someone we should sign as we need the depth, he'd give us something different off the bench, and hopefully help work with our young strikers.
 
bosnian_red said:
Would've been a great signing a few years ago. He's turning 34 at the end of the season though and his fitness hasn't been the same in this calendar year, and it's looking like he won't play a game for Juve this season. So we'd be signing a late 33 year old after 9 months without a competitive game who has never played in the premier league and who has never been a regular goalscorer. We'd be banking on him rolling back like 5 years in terms of performances to be properly useful. I understand the need for a player like what he used to be, but I don't think there's a good chance we'll get that if he comes.
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^^100%^^
We've had enough of quick fixes, build for the future.
 
theklr said:
We need more than one striker until summer even if Martial is injury free rest of the campaign.
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I'm not against signing a striker in Jan, even on a short term contract. I'm just thinking if Martial comes in, does well, which is possible as we have a decent run of games and Pogba back. The club might think between Rash, Martial and Greenwood they have the strikers position covered enough until end of season, when they can make their move.
 
Ed's been briefing that we have this plan our football exoperts believe in, and now we are set to sign a player who is past it, a boring, near 34 year old target man who won't have played a game for months when he gets here, plus he's too slow and an arsehole, total waste of money that we'll no doubt pay huge money to in wages and will be hard to get rid of next summer, yeah, we've got plan for sure............
 
Devil may care said:
Ed's been briefing that we have this plan our football exoperts believe in, and now we are set to sign a player who is past it, a boring, near 34 year old target man who won't have played a game for months when he gets here, plus he's too slow and an arsehole, total waste of money that we'll no doubt pay huge money to in wages and will be hard to get rid of next summer, yeah, we've got plan for sure............
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It's all so contradictory and hypocritical.
 
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