Both have 10 goal contributions so far this season; Leao has created 6 big chances to Rashford's 4.
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Both have 10 goal contributions so far this season; Leao has created 6 big chances to Rashford's 4.
I'm torn between a loan deal and a permanent transfer. If a loan deal, most of his wages have to be picked up by the borrowing club. If a permanent transfer, I'd be happy if we could settle for 30m.
The ideal outcome would be Rashford pulling his finger out, realizing that it just doesn't get any better than Manchester United and play football like a grown man again. Yes, his wages are outrageous but if we actually start winning trophies again the revenues will catch up to expenses.
The ideal outcome would be Rashford pulling his finger out, realizing that it just doesn't get any better than Manchester United and play football like a grown man again. Yes, his wages are outrageous but if we actually start winning trophies again the revenues will catch up to expenses.
Even if Rashford did pull his finger out where would he fit in the formation that our coach wants us to play
Rashford is not a player who can hold the ball up with his back to goal so he's not a 9, he doesn't have the ability to be a 10, all that's left is a WB
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No it's completely made up. You literally made up a number based your hatred of the player. Also, you have to take into consideration that Rashford will very likely go to a better team in a weaker league. You keep throwing around these absurd made up percentages that have absolutely no meaning..BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING THESE PERCENTAGES UP HAHAHA.. Your fantasy numbers have absolutely no value.
Why not 88%, 12%, 52.7% or 1.6% since you are just making it up haha..If your percentage isn't made up, then provide the formula, data and/or metrics that you used to come up with 75%. Go...
Also, I never said he would turn into prime CR7. But of course you have to exaggerate and make up scenarios because you can't defend your point. I simply said he is worth more than £20M.
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He is worth what other clubs are willing to pay for him.
Lets just wait and see.
Have the feeling he realized he wont play here.
Also have the feeling that his camp is starting to see the (lack of) interest in him.
In the PL. In a league were defenders can't wrestle for position, bump him off the ball or go through his back as long as they get the ball, he might. Morata's hold up play is more than fine in Italy, and he couldn't play back to goal in the PL either
Agreed, I dont understand how can Rashford still get support from some of the fans after being so woeful over last 2 years.
If its form related we support him and give more time as he is our by but mostly his downfall is based on his attitude and work rate.
3 managers didn't like what they saw with Rashford and on top of everything, we(fans) can see his work rate/professionalism which are not great.
He has to GO, simple....
I don’t deny going in on McT
He wasn’t ever good enough for us to be challenging for top trophies
And I couldn’t care less what he’s doing at Napoli…in a weaker league
Similarly, I won’t pay Rashford any attention if/when he rocks up at AC Milan or another.
Frankly, I’ll be glad to be rid of him and mute all the Rashford posts
Which is what I said in regard to Rashford, unless he can turn in to a WB he doesn't fit the formation and TBH I don't think he's capable of that either
Its funny this post because it shows ignorance... you talk about challenging for top trophies but is challenging for a Serie A.. one of the top 5 leagues in Europe.
You do realise even if you were basing it off formulas/ data etc it would still be made up? As you would literally be making it up whether it's based off more data or less doesn't matter, that poster has deemed a % based off his knowledge and expectation, really odd the lengths you are going to here. Even if he used the most mathematical formula there are millions of unknown variables you can't possibly quantify to give you any realistic output.
The issue here though addressing your point is value vs price. He as a football at 27 with what he has done in the game IS worth more than £20m but his form, his recent behaviour (Clubbing) and the fact he is dropped from the squad and said he wants out and is on £300k (or more) a week, there is no club in the world paying anything above £20m (Unless they pay us £40m and he agrees a new £150k a week contract and we pay off that the last few years differential of his contract) taking the net fee right down to around £20m unfortunately.
There are many who will try and convince you Leao would be a step up from Rashford
Yeah my bad, misread your post
You owned up so that mitigates itYeah my bad, misread your post
youre right. It is funny that you bring ignorance into it.
Yet here we are. With you being completely ignorant to the fact that Serie A is a weaker league and subsequently certain players just aren’t a good fit for us…whilst still having the ability to do well elsewhere.
Utd are a different beast to most other clubs. Playing for us comes with so much more demand and expectation.
Perhaps ignorance is bliss and more of us should just continue to accept average players and below average performances.
The only time I have any interest in Serie A is if we’re being heavily linked to a player there. Otherwise I genuinely couldn’t care less about Serie A. Who wins it. Who plays well in it.
Thank you for this post...
So you agree that a player cannot be a fit for us and have the ability to do well elsewhere?
So your note about you were 75% sure Rashford wouldnt do well is incorrect.
The ignorance here is coming from you
Serie A as whole maybe a weaker league, but the demands and expectations that come with playing for the likes of Milan or Juventus are not any less than they are at United or Barcelona or Real Madrid or Bayern Munich
Read my post again.
It clearly reads ‘Utd are a different beast to most other clubs’
In case you missed it for a second time. I’ve helped by bolding the key part of that statement
Apart from not playing the team has been getting some good results against the top teams in the league. It makes Marcus look more like a hindrance with all the stories about his poor attitude and lack of professionalism. Think the best they can hope is to get him on loan and hopefully he can display good football in order for teams to be interested in him during summer.
True.. my bad.
Lets just hope for that Rashford purple patch... that is exactly what is needed right now.
Go on loan to Milan / Bara and score 10 goals till the end of the season.
We all know he is a patch player and will never be consistent due to his off the field issues.
I didn't miss anything
Good recovery
Amorim will get a lot of time back in his week not having to answer about Rashford the whole time.
Have we ever had such a ludicrously off balance ratio between level of player and press interest like this before?
At least before it's been a Beckham, Cantona, Rooney type level.
Have we ever had such a ludicrously off balance ratio between level of player and press interest like this before?
At least before it's been a Beckham, Cantona, Rooney type level.
When a player has been mediocre to poor for 3 of the last 4 seasons its pretty reasonable to suggest that there's a 75% chance his next season will be mediocre. Indeed, odds are probably more than 75% because added into the historical stats are the new system that doesn't suit him plus the fact his performances and attitude seem to be on a general down trend. 80% seems more likely.
Fair points. In a 343 I could see Marcus Rashford playing on the left up front. Whether he could apply himself to the role is partially what I meant by pulling his finger out. I'm no psychologist, but what I see as the problem with Marcus Rashford is that he has always wanted play to go through him as the main man and when that didn't happen he sulked. Perhaps I'm 100% wrong about that, but if I'm not wrong and if he decides that he is willing to become a team player, rather than the player through him the team goes, I actually do think he could make a substantial contribution to the squad.
But his 350k/week contract is still a problem and maybe for that reason alone he has to go. But go where?
He’s not capable of that at all. Just think about the transformation we’ve seen under Amorim in the last few weeks, particularly yesterday. Down to 10 men the team worked their socks off to dig in and negate, as much as possible, Arsenal’s threat. Probably ran more than we have for a couple of years. Even players like Garnacho demonstrated defensive qualities. With Rashford on the pitch we’d effectively been down to 9 players. He just doesn’t have the bottle or desire, it seems, to get into that sort of fight. He’s lost his way here, for whatever reason, and it’s best for both parties if he leaves - but on our terms.
Well said totally agree.
u ok hun?
I thought oh feck when this Rashford stuff kicked off. The team was wobbling and I'd imagine the narrative would have been why is freezing out Rashford when he's one of the only ones who is a match winner. Rashfords lack of effort dragged the team down. Carrying him when he's scoring is one thing but carrying him when he's clearly not arsed is just bad policy full stop. I'm glad the manager and the club have finally put their foot down. If he's looking at his options now Utd is surely by far the best he can do but we don't really need him anymore. Hopefully it's a reality check either way. I'd rather have 11 worse players fighting for everything then hyped up players with massive egos who only show up sporadically. The team is better off without him.
I don't think he has it in him, even when he was playing decently his footballing IQ was called in to question, his game has always been about his speed and pace and he appears to have lost some of that, he's never been a player of great technical anility
As for where (if) he goes, no idea, the only place he's going to get his current salary is Saudi or at a push PSG, IMO there are 2 options, either United take a big hit and pay some of his salary or he reduces his demands to enable him to move elsewhere
Careful, I said in a different thread yesterday that if we'd brought Casemiro or Eriksen on instead of Collyer we'd have lost the gajme and I got jumped on!
IMO Rashford's time at United is over, I'd be delighted if he proves me wrong but I just don't see it
Rashford is capable of being a very productive player in the right team.
He made up a percentage based on the fact that he doesn't like the player. No data, no metrics. And when I called him out he decided that he doesn't care about percentages. Odd.
Arsenal spent £65 Million on Havertz and gave him £285k per week so stop talking to me about salaries and transfer fees.
It's really odd the lengths you are going through to devalue our player. I'm actually a supporter, I want the club to be better at selling. The good that he has done and is capable of doing in the future also matters. You seem to want us to sell players only based on the negative. That's not how business works. You want us giving away players for a Tesco gift card.
And he went clubbing? Ohhh nooo haha. Stop
His value is low, so common sense tells you to send him on loan and let him raise his value. Very simple.
Name the player in world football with Rashford stats that we can go buy for £20M. Go...
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Genuine question - have you watched Rashford the last 18months?
He’s still going!!
Common sense would tell you this fraud had one move and that move doesn't work anymore so sending him out on loan would expose to the world how utterly worthless he actually is. If we ever expect a cent for him we need to sell now to ensure the greater football world doesn't catch onto what a talentless hack that Rashford actually is.
Apparently Tesco do gift cards to the value of £20m.
For the record, I would happily sell for £20m, given the wages he is on.
The guys about 7 goals away from being in the top 10 for all time goal scorers for the club.
Pretty decent for a talentless hack fraud
Can absolutely see West Ham doing something here - they are absolutely desperate for a forward and aren’t shy paying big wages, especially for a short term loan.