Marcus Rashford (out)

2 man midfield said:
The sort of shite that goes for 30m these days, he’s got to be worth that even on those wages. But in this form he’s a massive risk, which is why I’d be surprised if a permanent move happened without a loan first.
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That philanthropist guy went for 22m to Ipswich
 
The last time they saw him he was tearing them a new one in their own back yard. Just think of that, and not the 2 years that came after it, alright Barca?
 
Giggsyking said:
I am not in any way saying we should absolutely keep him, but a manager with very thin options in the attack we should be careful, Marcus Rashford still the highest goal scorer in the team for the last 8 years and it is a dangerous game we are shifting him without any good substitutes.
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The thing is, we don't know what impact his attitude is having in the dressing room. We all know that one bad apple can bring an entire team down and that might be the case with him, in which case performances on the pitch are largely irrelevant now.
 
Told you all we could count on Barcelona to save us on this one. “But who’s going to pay his wages!?” Cried Red Caf. Never underestimate mental clubs doing mental things. They’ve been buying players for the last three years with money that doesn’t exist, they aren’t going to stop anytime soon.
 
EnviedRed said:
No actually this shit is nuanced and complicated. It wouldn't be a miracle..it's actually a slap in the face..So You think are Arsenal are trying to save us huh hahaha. Maybe Arsenal realize that Rashford is actually a talented player and if he wasn't playing in a team that's barely above the relegation zone he may actually produce.

The club have actually devalued by Rashford by pulling him out of the team and announcing to the world that we don't want him. Rashford isn't a 20M talent. If the offer is actually true it's obvious that Arsenal are trying to take advantage and some of you are actually like 'Yea Yea take the offer'. It would be absolutely absurd to sell him for that especially to another PL Club.

City just spent £35M on a no-name CB but sure let's sell our player who has scored 140 goals for less because you don't like him. Hopefully none of you are in charge of a business.

The smart decision is to send him on loan to Milan, Barca, etc..one of the better clubs in Spain or Italy. He can go play good in a team that is actually good, which will inevitably raise his value. There are also just less clubs in the winter who are in the market. In the summer there will just be more clubs in the market.

Seems like some of our fans hate Rashford so much that they are actually willing to be taken advantage of.
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Which club(s) do you think will pay a high transfer fee AND match his salary?
 
EnviedRed said:
The smart decision is to send him on loan to Milan, Barca, etc..one of the better clubs in Spain or Italy. He can go play good in a team that is actually good, which will inevitably raise his value. There are also just less clubs in the winter who are in the market. In the summer there will just be more clubs in the market.
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It won't be a smart decision to loan him to Barcelona, he'll get found out, benched and if anything that will devalue him even more. The smart decision is to loan him to a club in Italy, France or Germany.
 
Barca, Monaco and AC Milan all showing an interest in Rashford.

Must really hurt his ego that teams better than us want to sign him :rolleyes:
 
Tango80 said:
Barca, Monaco and AC Milan all showing an interest in Rashford.

Must really hurt his ego that teams better than us want to sign him :rolleyes:
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They see him as a cheap risk free punt, no commitment to buy. Why wouldn't they take that chance? Come back to me when they're prepared to pay a proper fee for him.
 
Cannot imagine that Barcelona will sign him. Surely they have some young superstar that could be unleashed. What can Rashford brings for them? He better check if he is asked to be a backup striker. He doesn't like to play as a CF.
 
r0663664 said:
Cannot imagine that Barcelona will sign him. Surely they have some young superstar that could be unleashed. What can Rashford brings for them? He better check if he is asked to be a backup striker. He doesn't like to play as a CF.
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Barca are skint

They only just managed to register Dani Olmo yesterday. They are at capacity. They’d have to get some out.
 
Xeque_279 said:
Yeah, Chelsea being the key word there. His work rate was horrible for us. Sancho fecking couldn't beat players from tinpot teams in the Europa!

So much of a players form depends on confidence too. Sancho is flying right now because of that, and I'm sure Rashford will be better than him.

I still don't want him here though. Can't see him turning it around, too much baggage. It's best for him and United to part ways now.
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Sancho still worked harder than Rashford at united.

Our style didn't suit him, we were very direct playing on "run fast straight to goal" style and he's never been that player. He's played better at both Chelsea and Dortmund than for us.
 
End of season is only 4 and a bit months away. Paying half his wages is what 3/4 mill? Don't see why all clubs don't gamble on that. Even the sht version if Rashford will bag 5-10 plus goals against sht teams till the end if the season. If good Rashford shows up thier laughing.
 
BenitoSTARR said:
He offers nothing in build up as a striker. Jesus, Havertz and even Trossard in that role for Arsenal are better.

I’ll be absolutely astounded if he arrives at Arsenal.
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Rashford has created 15 goal-scoring chances in the league this season (the club's 4th most). 4 of them were clear-cut (joint 2nd most at the club). The numbers do not support the suggestion that he offers nothing in the build-up. Havertz, having played more minutes, has 14 goal-scoring chances, 2 of them clear-cut.
 
D. Grayson said:
Rashford has created 15 goal-scoring chances in the league this season (the club's 4th most). 4 of them were clear-cut (joint 2nd most at the club). The numbers do not support the suggestion that he offers nothing in the build-up. Havertz, having played more minutes, has 14 goal-scoring chances, 2 of them clear-cut.
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As a striker he’s done that? Or as a winger?

I’m not someone who thinks nothing of Rashford as a wide forward, but the discussion was based around him operating as Arsenal’s centre forward and I strongly believe as do most in world football that he’s not a CF.

As a striker he cannot hold the ball up to help link play and build up. As a LW he can find space and pass perfectly well but we can’t equate what he does on the wing to being a good build up player when he’s the central focal point.

If we’re changing the discussion to be about how good he could be for Arsenal as a wide forward then I’m happy to engage on that topic separately.
 
BenitoSTARR said:
As a striker he’s done that? Or as a winger?

I’m not someone who thinks nothing of Rashford as a wide forward, but the discussion was based around him operating as Arsenal’s centre forward and I strongly believe as do most in world football that he’s not a CF.

As a striker he cannot hold the ball up to help link play and build up. As a LW he can find space and pass perfectly well but we can’t equate what he does on the wing to being a good build up player when he’s the central focal point.

If we’re changing the discussion to be about how good he could be for Arsenal as a wide forward then I’m happy to engage on that topic separately.
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Properly a mixed bag of positions this season, I think Rashford has played more games on the right and down the middle this season than on the left, so the bulk of the numbers come from those two roles.
 
I don’t hate any United player (there is always an exception) so I hope the Barca rumours are true.

It would give Marcus the route out of United that kept his ego intact. 6 months in Barcelona would be a great experience for him.
 
The Urban Goose said:
The thing is, we don't know what impact his attitude is having in the dressing room. We all know that one bad apple can bring an entire team down and that might be the case with him, in which case performances on the pitch are largely irrelevant now.
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I could see him finally knuckling down at a club like Barca where he’s back to being just another player in the grand scheme of things and a lot of easy games. He buckled under the pressure of being the main guy here, there’s no other explanation for it. I’d also imagine from his side he probably sees Utd as lacking ambition and putting all their eggs in his basket which is silly as he’s one of the highest paid players in the world and we spent more than anyone to build a team around him really but there you go.

He could also flop and then sulk his way through the loan and party it up in Barcelona and be back here in the summer worth even less.
 
Our only chance of getting something reasonable is if he has a good loan. Doubt he starts for Barca.
 
I bet his PR team are the ones putting out half these links to try to drum up more interest. They have form for it.
 
Ali Dia said:
I could see him finally knuckling down at a club like Barca where he’s back to being just another player in the grand scheme of things and a lot of easy games. He buckled under the pressure of being the main guy here, there’s no other explanation for it. I’d also imagine from his side he probably sees Utd as lacking ambition and putting all their eggs in his basket which is silly as he’s one of the highest paid players in the world and we spent more than anyone to build a team around him really but there you go.

He could also flop and then sulk his way through the loan and party it up in Barcelona and be back here in the summer worth even less.
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I must have missed us building a team around him. If we were going to do that then the bare minimum would have been a competent attacking left back and a CF with hold up play and vision. The last season we had a semblance of competence in those two positions was 22/23. How did Rashford do in that season?
 
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