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100% exactly what comes to mind when I think of Rashford.Unhealthy situation all round.
Difficult not to see shades of Princess Diana in Marcus Rashford.
100% exactly what comes to mind when I think of Rashford.Unhealthy situation all round.
Difficult not to see shades of Princess Diana in Marcus Rashford.
I’d argue we’d be weakening oneWe should definitely not sell him in PL. He is not Sancho, he is a player who has been able to do it in PL and we could end up strengthening a potential rival.
You're right, it's never his faultPlaying devil's advocate I can see why Rashford lost his mojo. Or at least why he has lost faith in Utd. To set up Rashford to be successful he needs to be firstly on the left and secondly with a good lb behind him and a half decent successful team. We haven't given him any if this. Firstly because of Shaw. Then we played him striker and RW. And then we ask him to work hard and drop back which I get should be a minimum ask but some players are just not like that. Salah doesn't do it, Messi doesn't. Not saying he's at that level just saying he doesn't seem capable. Then as a youngster he probably had dreams of being in this great United side. Being up there with Giggs, Keane, Scholes. Lifting trophies etc. But its been one big fkd up sht show. It would be hard for anyone not to loose enthusiasm. You get a new manager and you think yes ok this it. Let's go. Then bam you're slapped on the face. Over and over again. It's hard as a supporter and yes he's being paid 300 grand and should have motivation but it would grind down anyone over 10 plus years of sht
Unhealthy situation all round.
Difficult not to see shades of Princess Diana in Marcus Rashford.
Son is still Spurs' best player, while Rashford has become a non-factor for us. I understand your concern, Son will turn 33 this summer, and it feels like we're heading down a familiar path. That said, I've always had a soft spot for him and would love to see him at United. Who do you think would make for a better swap deal?
Here are some off the top of my head:
Napoli: Victor Osimhen - Seems to be the best option, solves our strikers' issues. (High)
AC Milan: Rafael Leao - Dynamic winger who can fits in well in our midfield. (Medium)
Dortmund: Youssoufa Moukoko - Young exciting striker. (High)
PSG: Achraf Hakimi - Offers defensive stability and attacking width. (Low)
Arsenal: Gabriel Martinelli - Offers versatility and flair to our front line. (Low)
Spurs: Son is still Spurs' most standout player. Besides him who else? Solanke? Probably a decent option.
Think you're thinking of Anthony Gordon mate
Nah his bro is just on a new year jolly!Apparently his agent has travelled to Milan to try and sort out a deal?
20 million for Rashford? Absolute madness. This is a player the club was valuing at 100+ million a year ago and despite poor form has been seen and valued as a very good player worldwide for a while with good marketability.
He won’t be getting sold for 20mThe same club who evaluated antony at 80 millions. He is not a very good player, and not many clubs outside of MLS and SA care about marketability that much. If his wages were more down to his level, a 50 million fee would not be outrageous. But with his wages? I doubt any club would want to spend north of 35 millions.
We had the same issue with Sancho, who is also younger.
That's a very weird one to name. Moukoko had a patch a couple years ago where one might have called him an exciting prospect, but he ultimately failed to actually make headway in Dortmund and this season is loaned out to Nice in order to get any playtime at all.Dortmund: Youssoufa Moukoko - Young exciting striker. (High)
Sounds like you haven’t watched Spurs this seasonSon is still Spurs' best player, while Rashford has become a non-factor for us. I understand your concern, Son will turn 33 this summer, and it feels like we're heading down a familiar path. That said, I've always had a soft spot for him and would love to see him at United. Who do you think would make for a better swap deal?
Here are some off the top of my head:
Napoli: Victor Osimhen - Seems to be the best option, solves our strikers' issues. (High)
AC Milan: Rafael Leao - Dynamic winger who can fits in well in our midfield. (Medium)
Dortmund: Youssoufa Moukoko - Young exciting striker. (High)
PSG: Achraf Hakimi - Offers defensive stability and attacking width. (Low)
Arsenal: Gabriel Martinelli - Offers versatility and flair to our front line. (Low)
Spurs: Son is still Spurs' most standout player. Besides him who else? Solanke? Probably a decent option.
Playing devil's advocate I can see why Rashford lost his mojo. Or at least why he has lost faith in Utd. To set up Rashford to be successful he needs to be firstly on the left and secondly with a good lb behind him and a half decent successful team. We haven't given him any if this. Firstly because of Shaw. Then we played him striker and RW. And then we ask him to work hard and drop back which I get should be a minimum ask but some players are just not like that. Salah doesn't do it, Messi doesn't. Not saying he's at that level just saying he doesn't seem capable. Then as a youngster he probably had dreams of being in this great United side. Being up there with Giggs, Keane, Scholes. Lifting trophies etc. But its been one big fkd up sht show. It would be hard for anyone not to loose enthusiasm. You get a new manager and you think yes ok this it. Let's go. Then bam you're slapped on the face. Over and over again. It's hard as a supporter and yes he's being paid 300 grand and should have motivation but it would grind down anyone over 10 plus years of sht
He is a risk for anyone, the wages and fee are further blockers. Agree he is deluded. This whole scenario will be humble pie and he will have to get his act together like Sancho has to an extent otherwise he will be yesterday's news.Based on actual performance value, Rashford is worth 20m at most. He's a player whose hype machine has created this fantasy of a world class footballer who really isn't. But of course the problem is his wages. No effing way should we consider subsidizing his wages and letting him play for another club. If we're going to pay his wages, he trains with us and contributes as a squad man for as long as his contract provides.
It is very unlikely that Marcus Rashford (27/ ) will move to #BVB in this transfer window. As reported yesterday, the overall package (loan fee, especially salary, etc.) is too expensive. AC Milan is now pushing. #MUFCGreat. What's he saying?
Thank you. Seems like Milan is the most likely option at the moment then.It is very unlikely that Marcus Rashford (27/ ) will move to #BVB in this transfer window. As reported yesterday, the overall package (loan fee, especially salary, etc.) is too expensive. AC Milan is now pushing. #MUFC
Bor. Dortmund has considered a loan, but is looking for other options. Rashford is said to not have been coach Nuri Sahin's preferred solution either.
"We are well prepared," said Sahin today when asked by Sky. "But we will only do something if it makes us better."
@SkySportDE
Don't know why the poster didn't take the extra few seconds to produce this translation.
[Patrick Berger] It is very unlikely that Marcus Rashford (27/ ) will move to #BVB in this transfer window. As reported yesterday, the overall package (loan fee, especially salary, etc.) is too expensive. AC Milan is now pushing. #MUFC (...)Great. What's he saying?
Sorry didn't realise, updated post as soon as I did.It is very unlikely that Marcus Rashford (27/ ) will move to #BVB in this transfer window. As reported yesterday, the overall package (loan fee, especially salary, etc.) is too expensive. AC Milan is now pushing. #MUFC
Bor. Dortmund has considered a loan, but is looking for other options. Rashford is said to not have been coach Nuri Sahin's preferred solution either.
"We are well prepared," said Sahin today when asked by Sky. "But we will only do something if it makes us better."
@SkySportDE
Don't know why the poster didn't take the extra few seconds to produce this translation.
https://www.thetimes.com/sport/foot...d-man-united-transfer-news-garnacho-gtqcgm9b7
[Hirst, Duncker] AC Milan set to reject Manchester United demands for Marcus Rashford loan | Italian club are expected to refuse to pay more than half of United forward’s £325,000-a-week wages with their top earner only on £150,000 a week
Milan would be a good move, with Leao struggling with injuries again he would slot right in.Thank you. Seems like Milan is the most likely option at the moment then.
That's one thing INEOS seems to be cracking down on.The people who gave him that contract should be ashamed. Those wages are disgusting. It's really fecked us over!
It is par for the teamThe people who gave him that contract should be ashamed. Those wages are disgusting. It's really fecked us over!
Why will he go for free? He has a long contract left.Is there a point where a sale is so unlikely that you’re better letting him go for free?
Just don't play him. He either takes a pay cut to fulfil his ambition to push for the England squad or hel go Saudi for the money.Is there a point where a sale is so unlikely that you’re better letting him go for free? Do wages off the books help PSR?
Not much value for money there. Why on earth we offered the likes of Eriksen or Antony so much money is beyond me. They’d have been on a fraction of that before they joined us.It is par for the team
Casemiro 350k
Bruno 300k
Rashford 300k
Mount 250k
Antony 200k
De Ligt 195k
Maguire 190k
Eriksen 150k
Shaw 150k
Is there a point where a sale is so unlikely that you’re better letting him go for free? Do wages off the books help PSR?
Eriksen is paid above the odds because he was a free transfer.Not much value for money there. Why on earth we offered the likes of Eriksen or Antony so much money is beyond me. They’d have been on a fraction of that before they joined us.
Which is fine if you’re signing Rudiger or Mbappe, you expect a big signing on fee, wages etc to compensate for the lack of fee. But this was a player who nobody apart from Brentford was prepared to go near. I can’t imagine he was on anything higher than 50k at Brentford, would 75k not have done the trick?Eriksen is paid above the odds because he was a free transfer.
It is par for the team
Casemiro 350k
Bruno 300k
Rashford 300k
Mount 250k
Antony 200k
De Ligt 195k
Maguire 190k
Eriksen 150k
Shaw 150k