If he's really leaving, Italy would be a great destination for him. A change of environment will probably do him good anyways, but what makes a move to Milan/Juve/Inter/Napoli a great option is how favourable that league is for players with great pace, power, and ball carrying ability. Rashford excels in all three, and in a settled, well-drilled team (which he's only had at United in the 20/21season in the last 6 years, plus a half-season in 19/20 and maybe 22/23) it's only up to him whether he becomes one of the best players in the league or not.
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Won’t he be fighting with Leao for a starting spot?
If we got a loan fee and subsidised half or his wages would save us around 5 million.
If we got a loan fee and subsidised half or his wages would save us around 5 million.
He can teach Zlatan how to point to his head in a mysterious and thought provoking manner. You know, get people talking. He would love that
Milan are in 8th place and their top goalscorer has 5 goals. Just insert an obligation to buy for 40m euros if they make the champions league places and it'll work for everyone.
Dortmund are in a similar situation so same sort of deal for them.
Dortmund are in a similar situation so same sort of deal for them.
They'd be beyond nuts to agree to that. What if Rashford gets hurt or stinks up the joint (with his play or his attitude) yet they make the Champions League anyway?
There's zero reason for any club to obligate themselves to buy Rashford on £325k a week. He's not even playing for us yet under contract on that monstrous salary for 3.5 more years; we have no leverage.
Nah. Straight loan or loan with an option. We'd need to find quite the fool to take him off our hands outright. I hope you're right, but can't believe any club would be that stupid.
Yeah they have Leao and Pulisic on the wings already. Milan going for Rashford makes no sense to me.
I doubt it. He is not that speedy anymore (or he can't make many runs in one game) , and his technique is really poor. But even 20 millions would de sufficient for us and won't make us look silly.
Pulisic is having a great season as well. He wouldn't get on ahead of Moratta or Abraham up front either
Rashford plays best when teams operate conseevatively anyway. Zlatan knowing him certainly helps, weird to insinuate otherwise. And if you're talking about Leao, he's absolutely nothing like top 3-5 in the world.
Option to buy. Feck off. Keep him and make him work for his place again, we are paper thin in attack and we are loaning our players for free.
Hopefully this will be a reality check for Rashford and his brother. Still lots of talk but noone is prepared to put their money where there mouth is.
Can't see a top club taking a player who by all accounts doesn't fit into the team ethic and doesn't train hard enough.
Will Rashford really take a pay cut to move? I'm really loath to see Utd pay 50% or more of his salary when he's done nothing to deserve such charity.
Can't see a top club taking a player who by all accounts doesn't fit into the team ethic and doesn't train hard enough.
Will Rashford really take a pay cut to move? I'm really loath to see Utd pay 50% or more of his salary when he's done nothing to deserve such charity.
Yup and Morata and Tammy up top. There's no room for him there at all.
20 million for Rashford? Absolute madness. This is a player the club was valuing at 100+ million a year ago and despite poor form has been seen and valued as a very good player worldwide for a while with good marketability.
He won't work for the place though, that's the problem.
You know him personally do you?
He’s been really bad yet is still our joint top scorer, level with that other guy who is a detriment to our team, play style and should have the captaincy removed.
The narratives around our club are batshit crazy, and they are perpetuated by our own fans.
You’re in dreamland if you think we get anything near 100 million. I think the club would be content with 40.
And Rashford hasn't been a detriment to the team when he's played?? Feck sake ye lot defending him are unreal.You know him personally do you?
He’s been really bad yet is still our joint top scorer, level with that other guy who is a detriment to our team, play style and should have the captaincy removed.
The narratives around our club are batshit crazy, and they are perpetuated by our own fans.
Sad to see him leave, some of his supposed behaviour in the last 2 years has been outright disrespectful. Will be watching him, hoping he does well wherever he goes.
A loan is likely the best that can be done all things considered. Loan him out then get rid of this fraud as soon as possible in the summer.
I'd guess the plan, from Milan's perspective, is to get Rashford on a loan, see how well he adjusts to the league/life abroad and lowball United, who wish to get rid of him, next summer. At the same time, they'll also try to milk every last Euro from a possible Leao move (he had leaked rumours that he wants to go) and end up swapping one "star" player with another and pocketing a good deal of cash.
I don’t believe we will and I don’t believe they’re that stupid anymore either. I’m saying that the club valued him at that year ago. The idea they will take a loan with an obligation to buy for 20 million is insane. And no matter what this place thinks of him he’s most certainly worth more than 20 million.
Obviously he's not seen worldwide as a player worth £100m, or we'd have interest from the best clubs in Europe. What's the marketability of a lazy arse who has been dropped by club and country? All the marketability is driven by his PR agency he hires. He's nothing more than a decent footballer who thinks he's a Hollywood movie star, earning a wage x2 above his realistic value. Hence why there's very little interest, and I expect the club would be happy to get 100% of his wages off the books + £20-40m on top
The time to sell was a couple years ago when his stock was highest. But of course the club are fools and half the fans are as bad, saying we shouldn't sell a homegrown lad for anything other than ludicrously high fees, despite the warning signs already being there with him. Well this is what we get for such stupidity
Rashford, Fernandes, Zirkzee, Garnacho, Casemiro and Hojlund all purported to not be good enough, all should be sold allegedly - and then suddenly we are 17 goals down on our season total which would obviously do wonders for our GD, and points total in an already poor season.
This last bit makes sense hence the talk of Milan desiring a pathway to a permanent signing. If they could agree an option of under £50m and sale Leao for a fee close to or above £100m then they will make a tidy sum and have a motivated superstar to replace a wantaway one.
For us anything approaching £40m will be great as it would represent pure profit for PSR and the cash will help. Getting rid of his and Casemiro's wages will be a huge boost. We will only be left with Bruno, Antony and Mount for feck off but at least Bruno is still useful.
Ok? That doesn't change the fact that Rashford would be a detriment to the team if he was in it as well. His attitude has stunk for far to long, and finally we have a manager who has seen that and put him out of the squad.
Yes its not like we can’t sign replacements right. Personally would keep Garnacho and only move on Fernandes in the summer
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Really don’t understand how Zlatan is relevant. Then again, ten Hag really benefited from knowing van de Beek, completely turned his career around, so maybe we can see it happening again.
Leao absolutely is a top 5 winger when he wants to. His issue is consistency. He reminds me of Pogba in terms of his attitude and demenour and similarly to him, he can do everything as long as he wants to.
Kinda true on the Conceicao bit, but I doubt that anyone can revive him. I mean, if the guy can’t be bothered to fight for his place when he, himself, acknowledges that he’s been poor, then he must be beyond saving imo.
Good, now we have a manager who will take this action Marcus knows he can’t phone it in anymore. We are getting statements already saying he will fight and give 100% which can only be a benefit. If it doesn’t happen he knows what the alternative is now.
They will probably just frame this as the problems at United damaging his brand to an extent and not that his behaviour has held the team back for too long. PSG or Barca would be in for him if Utd were well run he’d be playing really well or whatever
Anyway it’ll be a great day when we don’t have to chat about whether he’s arsed or not anymore
I probably know the answer to my question, but can anyone explain how everyone that we choose to put on high wages turns out shit (ie looks like they're only here for the money) while other top clubs pay that pay similar wages get the performances they need out of those top earners?
Other clubs dont pay those wages to potential/young players. They pay those wages to the real deal, world class players.
We gave Rashford that contract and look at him after that. Got too comfortable and regressed as a player overall. Same with Martial. You have to keep them on their toes. Its very easy for young players to lose their way and considering the money hungry turds around them that give them bad advice along, its a loss for the club.
Our individual players are good to very good (on their best days).
As a collective however we are decidedly average. The collective drags down individual performance - which is why in the last few season we have bemoaned being ‘individual brilliance fc’.
This is the problem with contracts. If any of us don't work or put a shift in we’re bin bagged.
Does he still have that? His ball carrying and successful take on stats are on quite a steep decline. In the PL this season he’s down in the low red “percentiles” on FBref.
Not for the PL but in slower leagues, he can excel in an attacking sense. Anyone buying Rashford now will be more a PR move than footballing one. The one thing Rashford still posses is a decent name in football.
His image might get us a sale but the buying team will soon find out, what you get on the cover is different to what is inside the pages.
Not convinced he does, not in the Premier League at least. Even if the issues are revolved does he ever score 30 goals a season again or multiple seasons where he justifies his salary. I would say no because I think he has lost some of his explosiveness and he is someone who is very dependent on it so may well have leaked already.
Short term a loan deal isn’t great as any loan fee and wage contribution will be modest, the real benefit is potentially is in the summer when you can sell him for more, from a stronger negotiating position.
It's the consistency issue that stops Leao from being in that bracket. Ability is nothing if you can't show it on a consistent basis. How many players are there in Europe that fit this description? Loads probably.
Exactly. Potential is nothing if not realised.
I really dislike the player for the last few years but I was sucked back in with that form. Imagine us selling an academy player coming off their most productive season? There’d have been riots. The contract he got was stupidly big but fans would have been outraged if we’d sold him for Sancho money. That’s not how you build a team. Selling the soul of the club to pay off the debt. Bla bla bla. We were screwed either way.
For all his faults Bruno does contribute to the team, i can't remember the last time Rashford had a game like Bruno did at Anfield on Sunday. They are not comparable.