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Trying to put myself in Marcus' shoes, if I accept the idea that most of the abusive message I get are trolls and bots I then have to sieve through them to find the real abusive messages, then what am I actually doing?
Abuse in the stadium is unfortunately a staple of football, at my local semi-pro club there is a regular who makes it his responsibilty to let the opposition left back know just how shite he is for 90 minutes. This season they've given him the job of laying out the cones for the pre-match warm up and he gets to sit in the dugout, which has stopped him shouting "YOU'RE FECKING SHITE NUMBER 2" on the regular.
I mean its easy to put yourself in someones shoes but can you imagine being in poor form, getting critics for your performances, getting abuse from your fans? Then you have Sky sports and other media outlets putting spreads about you to heap on the pressure?
Then you go to the stadium, and you are getting booed from the home crowd.
I get it, he should deal with it but I can see why it can become too much for a player, especially if you are a confidence player and already low in it.
I presume because he uses to interact with genuine fans. I think other people respond and I saw him promising a jersey to someone the other week however yes he may have to consider other options.Delete account from cesspit like Twitter.
Disable commenting or enable limited commenting when posting on Insta. Can't he or others use these options?
That stat, not just for Marcus, is really sick... Bots or not, social media is just a piece of shit
Delete account from cesspit like Twitter.
Disable commenting or enable limited commenting when posting on Insta. Can't he or others use these options?
Sorry, i thought this was the nature of top level elite sport. Fecking Messi was close to quitting playing for Argentina and Ronaldo had knives out for him for his second stint here. No place at all for racist abuse, but this is the world we live in and if you use social media for your own benefit you know what comes with itI mean its easy to put yourself in someones shoes but can you imagine being in poor form, getting critics for your performances, getting abuse from your fans? Then you have Sky sports and other media outlets putting spreads about you to heap on the pressure?
Then you go to the stadium, and you are getting booed from the home crowd.
I get it, he should deal with it but I can see why it can become too much for a player, especially if you are a confidence player and already low in it.
Well if you wanna compare apples to oranges....Yes and if pretty girls don't like being wolf whistled they should not wear skirts in the summer.
Walking around with no skirts on will result in even more wolf whistles if you ask meYes and if pretty girls don't like being wolf whistled they should not wear skirts in the summer.
Well if you wanna compare apples to oranges....
The problem with the internet is there is no end. You shut down one and another crops up almost immediately. The relative anonymity of the internet also makes it a long drawn process to keep punishing every abuser. At some point, one needs to consider if the good outweighs the bad, especially if it affects the player.It's just a better idea to address shitty behaviour rather than start telling people how they should restrict their normal behaviours to avoid it.
Yeah, if even just three of my mates were having a go at me, I’d probably be pretty disturbed. So having thousands of people piling on? That would definitely be tough to handle.
But to flip it around, would I take that kind of abuse from tens of thousands of people for £300k a week? Absolutely. I’d stand naked in the middle of Old Trafford while 80,000 people shouted out every embarrassing thing I’ve ever done.
So yeah, I guess you’ve got to take the rough with the smooth.
Sorry, i thought this was the nature of top level elite sport. Fecking Messi was close to quitting playing for Argentina and Ronaldo had knives out for him for his second stint here. No place at all for racist abuse, but this is the world we live in and if you use social media for your own benefit you know what comes with it
You expect all the trappings, status and rewards of fame but buckle with responsibility that comes with it. He had his best season, got his contract then put in a stinker of a season performance and attitude wise, so he is paying back the price for that. Dont mug off or manipulate fans, much better players had to deal with backlash than Rashford
Why are you assuming the survey is including criticism, and not genuine abuse?If the vast majority are comments of that nature, I'm in complete agreement. However surveys don't always paint the full picture unless you see the comments first hand.
That stat, not just for Marcus, is really sick... Bots or not, social media is just a piece of shit
In the UK at least it does look like some Twitter posters are being held to account after the recent riots, if a few in this instance were prosecuted for the more egregious posts then maybe when some people see some potential consequences they might think twiceThe problem with the internet is there is no end. You shut down one and another crops up almost immediately. The relative anonymity of the internet also makes it a long drawn process to keep punishing every abuser. At some point, one needs to consider if the good outweighs the bad, especially if it affects the player.
Strange place for people to show strange sides of themYup. That's why I don't do social media. It's a toxic mess.
Isn't what you just posted on a form of social media?Yup. That's why I don't do social media. It's a toxic mess.
Isn't what you just posted on a form of social media?
Isn't what you just posted on a form of social media?
Forums like the CAF were one of the original types of social media, if it wasn't for the Mods it wouldn't be far off the likes of Twitter, and if someone like Rashford actually was on here he probably would be thinking WTF, this lot are supposed to be supporters of the team I play for!The living embodiment of the but you participate in society meme.
Besides forums aren't typical social media platforms and don't have the same issues as Twitter etc, given the anonymous and niche nature of places like the Caf.
Forums like the CAF were one of the original types of social media, if it wasn't for the Mods it wouldn't be far off the likes of Twitter, and if someone like Rashford actually was on here he probably would be thinking WTF, this lot are supposed to be supporters of the team I play for!
I mean its easy to put yourself in someones shoes but can you imagine being in poor form, getting critics for your performances, getting abuse from your fans? Then you have Sky sports and other media outlets putting spreads about you to heap on the pressure?
Then you go to the stadium, and you are getting booed from the home crowd.
I get it, he should deal with it but I can see why it can become too much for a player, especially if you are a confidence player and already low in it.
You won’t understand it because you aren’t one.You have more empathy than me.
Rashford and every other high profile player live a life of unbelievable privilege.
When things are going well for them they bask in their own glory, signing up for lucrative sponsorship deals and lapping up the adulation and fair play to them-that's not a criticism.
I can never understand why high profile personalities are aware of, never mind read, what the "commoners" are saying about them.
You have more empathy than me.
Rashford and every other high profile player live a life of unbelievable privilege.
When things are going well for them they bask in their own glory, signing up for lucrative sponsorship deals and lapping up the adulation and fair play to them-that's not a criticism.
I can never understand why high profile personalities are aware of, never mind read, what the "commoners" are saying about them.
What's certainly quite damning is the manager coming out, pointing to your lack of professionalism. You justvcan't have that as a Man united player, let alone one of the best paid ones. Anyways, here's to hoping he's now turned a corner.He’s one goal away from reaching half his tally last season, which I guess is good in one sense and damning in another.
This isn't the new narrative is it? That's not what I took from his comments....What's certainly quite damning is the manager coming out, pointing to your lack of professionalism. You justvcan't have that as a Man united player, let alone one of the best paid ones. Anyways, here's to hoping he's now turned a corner.
What did you take from the comment? What I got was the manager saying his lifestyle wasn't conducive to performance on the field.This isn't the new narrative is it? That's not what I took from his comments....
Wasn't playing well and unprofessional, yet retained his place. Current form aside, that's an absolutely dreadful example to set for impressionable players in and around the team. Setting high standards in attitude and application should be the absolute minimum for being at the club let alone getting in the team.
