Worst thing he's ever done was make (some of) us believe that marcus wasn't good enough.
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If you don’t want to get into comparing Rashford and Martial, that post is really really not the way to go about it.
People were going on about not comparing them so naturally I decided to. Thing is, they both play the same positions, both have been in the first team for 4 seasons now and both have quite different narratives around their quality. Martial has been lauded as a 'future Ballon D'Or' a fair bit whereas Rashford has been called a 'Championship player' just as much. It is kind of interesting that their G+A is almost the same, to me anyway.
Not sure if it were the same people that are saying both.
IMO, both statements could be used as examples of hyperbole.
It's because I think most will agree that Martial's ceiling is higher. He can do incredible stuff with the ball. To be hones they are very different type of players. I'm sure when Modric was 18 along with an 18 year old Quaresma most would have said Quresma is the future ballon d'or level player.
Not exactly anything to shout about especially when you compare it to the leagues other top strikers. I think it proves how more effective and threatening Rashford is against the top opposition, all the while not playing as the main striker
Ole's coming out of retirement
He's not exactly built well to play with his back to goal and do the hold up work. At least in the sense of him leaning into a defender. His frame doesn't look like it would support bulk in the way Lukaku's does. It may just be a trait he will never be good at.
I don’t get this stuff about him being bullied by defenders, we just played Cardiff, Bournemouth and Newcastle. In none of these games did he get bullied or kept quiet. If anything I’ve been impressed with how he has used his body to keep defenders behind him to link play from the ST’s position. He’s so quick he manages to get in front in a lot of situation, often drawing free kicks.
Because Lacelles kicked him a few times.
Oh, you mean those borderline red card offenses he got away with? Well, OK then.
Will Rash be another Rooney, or will he be another Wellbeck?
How many players that went on to be elite level strikers (the CR7s, RVPs, RVNs, Lewandowski, etc. Yes Rooney too) would at a YOUNG AGE have had the type of miscontrol and trip over the ball that Rashford had against Reading?
How many players that went on to be elite level strikers (the CR7s, RVPs, RVNs, Lewandowski, etc. Yes Rooney too) would at a YOUNG AGE have had the type of miscontrol and trip over the ball that Rashford had against Reading?
What sort of daft question is that? Rooney had the touch of a rapist when he was off form. And RVP constantly fecked up including a few hilarious air shots at open nets. And Ruud was a nobody in Holland.
Let's rephrase the question, name a striker that never fecked up and tripped over the ball.
Rashford will have a much better career than Welbeck.
He’s already had a much greater impact than Welbeck for both club and country. He might not become a Rooney, but he’s already well beyond Welbz.
At least unlike Welbeck he does not trip over his own feet.
I think he's already surpassed Welbeck. You can see teh club want to make him an integral part of the Team. Welbeck was never going to be more than a good squad option
Good point.
I doubt he will be a Rooney... Rooney was extremly good and a special talent. His later years cloud his performances a bit but he was a really good player.
Rashford can become a good player but as good as Rooney? Or have a career like Rooney? I doubt that.
Rashford can become a good player but as good as Rooney? Or have a career like Rooney? I doubt that.
Why wouldn’t it be a serious post? I didn’t know it was forbidden in the CAF to make these kind of questions, and as far as I can tell I shouldn’t be offending anyone except for the self-appointed Rashford police. The question is one I have asked myself several times with Rashford when I see him fail to control simple balls or when he has missed easy one on ones.
I saw your video on CR7s fails, but most of those are when he was attempting to do fancy stepovers or backheels. I remember when Ronaldo played for us, and don’t have many memories of him being a player with difficulty or hesitancy in those one on ones.
So somewhere in between, not as bad as Wellbeck but not as good as Rooney. Yes, that would be my opinion as well.
What sort of daft question is that? Rooney had the touch of a rapist when he was off form. And RVP constantly fecked up including a few hilarious air shots at open nets. And Ruud was a nobody in Holland.
Let's rephrase the question, name a striker that never fecked up and tripped over the ball.
Maybe I am being too negative, but at this stage, I would put money on Rashford not ever becoming as good as peak RVP or peak RVN.
RVN was a nobody in Holland? That’s surprising.
What sort of daft question is that? Rooney had the touch of a rapist when he was off form. And RVP constantly fecked up including a few hilarious air shots at open nets. And Ruud was a nobody in Holland.
Let's rephrase the question, name a striker that never fecked up and tripped over the ball.
RVN was not a nobody in the Netherlands. Don't make things up TwoSheds.
“Apparently” Rashford has been told in Dubai that he is now our first choice CF now.
Obviously this is apparently, I read on twitter, but it certainly wouldn’t suprise me as OGS loves him.
Obviously this is apparently, I read on twitter, but it certainly wouldn’t suprise me as OGS loves him.
Wish it was true but there's no way Ole in unequivocal terms told any player that
He’s 21 practically still a kid as his body hasn’t filled into a man’s yet. Give him time... not even mbappe is great with his back to goal. Interesting to see how mbappe would fare in the premier league which is much tougher than ligue 1.
He is improving but he needs to have a stand out season in the next two years. I dont want to see him being another 26 year Old young talent like Lingard. Next season he needs to put up consistent form. I believe he can do it. One thing that irritates me is his selfishness. He has scored from a set piece recently but that does not mean go ahead and shoot from any angle. Seems very brainless at times just shooting when he could cross. He does this at times when he goes through on goal, shoots instead of squaring it. That's something a player like Sterling has mastered, the cutback. Rashford needs to be more composed in decision making.
Rashford needed to be used to his strength. His movements inside the box was good when he started playing. I think once he knows he does not have to show off he will settle down and play a team game. It is not point hoofing balls up in the air for Rashford. Just like RVP and Rooney too. He is not going to win it in the air against any CBs.
But he can play the one touch a lot better than Lukaku and he is very quick and can shoot from range. I like if he gets the assurance that he is the number 1 striker and it will make Martial relaxed and confident too that he can play on the left.
But he can play the one touch a lot better than Lukaku and he is very quick and can shoot from range. I like if he gets the assurance that he is the number 1 striker and it will make Martial relaxed and confident too that he can play on the left.
Van Nistelrooy at 21 was playing for Den Bosch and had scored 17 goals in 69 appearances according to Wikipedia. Sounds world class to me.
Whilst we don’t have a world class RW/RF we will always be rotaing Lingard and Mata, which makes it tempting to put Rashford on the right, Lukaku up top. If we had, say Bale, we would have Martial on the left, Rashford up top then a better forward on the right.
It is a good point. If we had a world class attacker with great output playing on the right then it could make it easier for Rashford to be our main striker.
Rashford is already above Lukaku ..
Sanchez, Rashford, Martial for front 3.
Sanchez, Rashford, Martial for front 3.
Yes, and he moved to PSV where he scored 31 in 34 games. That's why United signed him. He had an ACL injury that stopped him from signing to United in 2000 but SAF kept his faith, and signed him up when he recovered. He was one of the most talked about young strikers on the rise in Europe, maybe you're too young to remember if you're relying on Wikipedia which is not even used for official research. If you're only touching on what he did at 21 specifically you didnt make it clear in the original post, it came off as a general summation of his time in Holland.
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Wow!! You got to be wumming if you are picking on Rashford for tripping in a game.
Why would I be comparing him to Ruud at 25 though? That's what people who make daft comments about falling over against Reading would do.
It's good to see Rashford (and the rest of the team) finally having someone coach them on a personal level. It's going to be really interesting to see how Rashford develops over these next few months. If he can be more cool in the box and 1-on-1, he can become an absolute star in the league in the near future.
Who isn't giving him time? I said in the exact post you quoted that he can be our main striker if he gets stronger and uses his body better.
In fact a lot are doing exactly the opposite, by acting as if he's ready to lead the line every game, usually because they 'rate' him as a striker. Basically they ignore weaknesses in his game because they want him to succeed. Rashford was struggling big time against Newcastle until we got on Lukaku to work their centre backs, allowing him more space. That's not going to be solved by playing him over and over against these big defenders, these things take time in training.
Ronaldo took time to bulk up and only when he did that was he able to be our main goal outlet. Jesse Lingard didn't grow into his frame with playing time, it took him years of work to improve his physical side. What's wrong with playing Rashford in games that suit his qualities? He can start plenty of games as striker and wide player. As he grows into his frame, he can choose which one he is better at.
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