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La liga is the best place to go. I think he'd realise that in a more technical league that his pace isn't the be all and end all and it would teach him more about just being direct and 100 miles per hour all the time.

There is much promise with Rashford but I'd hate to see it squandered. I don't think staying at United and playing in such a pressured environment where he has to be so direct and relied upon is going to bring out the best in him.

Even someone like Martial could probably develop faster playing up front for a smaller side than he is under Jose but I think Rashford is in more need of a loan than Martial is. He seems more raw than Martial to me.

Martial at the end of the day is definitely a top 4 club footballer but Rashford could be a mid table footballer sometimes he looks so raw but at other times looks a world beater and therefore building up some consistency up front and getting goals regularly will really develop his edge in front of goal.

One issue I have with Rashford is he doesn't know how to use his pace. Just running at full speed isn't enough, even slower players makes their little pace to good use by change of pace, something Rashford should learn.

He can also learn a thing or 2 about making runs off the ball and also play against much better tactical teams.
 
If we loaned him out I can't even imagine the outrage from the press about how much Mourinho hates youth and isn't developing English talent and whatnot.

I don't think he will get loaned out next season, too few strikers in the ranks and I highly doubt Ibra would like a role on the bench.
 
He should be coming on in games from the bench. His pace and dribbling is ridiculous but his finishing let's him down at the moment.
 
He should be coming on in games from the bench. His pace and dribbling is ridiculous but his finishing let's him down at the moment.

He looked great coming on as a sub in the first few weeks of the season, I think Mourinho should go back to that again
 
Criticising our academy while using Rashford as an example is simply wrong, because that same Rashford who is our academy product is playing better than some foreign stars for who we paid big money.

You make it sound like Rashford is having a significantly better season than Martial, they've both been bang average after having great first seasons. At least Martial did something to make us and the likes of Chelsea willing to splash big money on him. If you want to see Martial criticisms you can check out his thread
 
You make it sound like Rashford is having a significantly better season than Martial, they've both been bang average after having great first seasons. At least Martial did something to make us and the likes of Chelsea willing to splash big money on him. If you want to see Martial criticisms you can check out his thread

I don't make it sound like that, I am just saying that our academy product is playing equal if not better than foreign player(s) who we bought for big money, so this trend that looking somehwere else and saying that our academy is shit is obviously not always right, as we saw many times through the years. I am big Martial fan actually. Criticising our academy while mentioning players like Rashford is ridiculous.
 
Sending him on loan overseas would be a bit silly. The Championship would be fine. He'd be torching grown men every week and scoring plenty because he's shown ability at the top level already. Don't need to overthink it. He needs a lot of starts up front and a lot of goals.
 
He'd be fine in a high scrutiny environment under a coach who actually develops youth properly, like Pocchettino. .....
Pochettino is far more receptive to youth players with more emphasis on youth development as a whole, yeah. But that's not what the original post said: the environment under Pochettino is certainly not 'laid back'.
 
Sub Ibra for Marcus should be Utd's Plan B (or just the norm around the 75 min mark) instead of the push Fellaini up front and hoof it into him.

I do feel Rashford is getting enough football to not warrent a loan deal, but he isn't be used in the best way imo.
 
Sending him on loan overseas would be a bit silly. The Championship would be fine. He'd be torching grown men every week and scoring plenty because he's shown ability at the top level already. Don't need to overthink it. He needs a lot of starts up front and a lot of goals.
I think with Newcastle coming up, I think that would be the perfect place for him to go out on loan to. I think the championship is too low for him, but a lower premier league side would certainly be the best place for him.
 
Sending him on loan overseas would be a bit silly. The Championship would be fine. He'd be torching grown men every week and scoring plenty because he's shown ability at the top level already. Don't need to overthink it. He needs a lot of starts up front and a lot of goals.

Why is it silly? If he goes to La Liga he will experience:

a) A much higher level of football compared to the Championship
b) A different footballing culture.

Sure it's higher risk, because he will have to pick up the lingo and adjust to the culture. But if he's an adaptable young lad he will learn far more there than he could possibly learn at the Championship.
 
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Overrrated. No deadly serious. He has missed sooo many chances this year. Not scored since September. Sorry Rashford you just ain't good enough.
 
Pochettino is far more receptive to youth players with more emphasis on youth development as a whole, yeah. But that's not what the original post said: the environment under Pochettino is certainly not 'laid back'.

I said he needs a loan in a more laidback environment, then stuck a semi-colon in there to elaborate that if he was in this intense environment under a proper advocate of youth development like Van Gaal or Pocchettino, he'd be fine.

Pocchettino has effectively recreated the United of the early 90's at Spurs; he's a proper United manager, and puts the Mouron to shame.
 
Overrrated. No deadly serious. He has missed sooo many chances this year. Not scored since September. Sorry Rashford you just ain't good enough.

Where's the patience? He's 19.

Shown more than enough to suggest he can be a fantastic striker. Do you not think he will improve?
 
Where's the patience? He's 19.

Shown more than enough to suggest he can be a fantastic striker. Do you not think he will improve?

Shown more? If anything he's show the opposite for me. Can't dribble, can't score, sure as hell can't cross. I'm not out to get him so please don't think that. I'm just not convinced by his development thus far. I hope he proves me wrong.
 
I said he needs a loan in a more laidback environment, then stuck a semi-colon in there to elaborate that if he was in this intense environment under a proper advocate of youth development like Van Gaal or Pocchettino, he'd be fine.

Pocchettino has effectively recreated the United of the early 90's at Spurs; he's a proper United manager, and puts the Mouron to shame.

Mouron! It's funny because his name is Mourinho! Hilarious! More please!!
 
He is not playing well this season but that is completely expected. I think he is over played and exposed too much, he will develop into a good player at the very least IMHO. We just need to be patient and hope that Mourinho manages him better because playing him as much as he is, isn't very good management.
 
I said he needs a loan in a more laidback environment, then stuck a semi-colon in there to elaborate that if he was in this intense environment under a proper advocate of youth development like Van Gaal or Pocchettino, he'd be fine.

Pocchettino has effectively recreated the United of the early 90's at Spurs; he's a proper United manager, and puts the Mouron to shame.

Are you delusional? Pochettino's won nothing yet, while Mourinho won the CL twice and multiple titles in many countries.
 
I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading in here. No technical ability, no skill, should be loaned out. Are you all crazy?!

I understand his lack of goals is frustrating, but more experienced players have gone through similar phases. Rashford will come out of the other side, I've no doubt about it.
 
I actually think he needs to slow down a bit when dribbling. He runs at full pelt but can't keep the ball under control unless it's in a straight line.

He should run them, then stop them and slow them down, then go again. Neymar/Messi are really good at doing this, they change the tempo of their dribbles and that catches defenders off balance.

If you just run full at full speed and try to cross or dribble it's so hard.

Agree with that. He's just overly keen to get on his bike. To be fair it's fun to watch a player running at top speed with the ball even if most of the time it comes to little.

It's nothing time and patience won't solve.
 
Shown more? If anything he's show the opposite for me. Can't dribble, can't score, sure as hell can't cross. I'm not out to get him so please don't think that. I'm just not convinced by his development thus far. I hope he proves me wrong.

This is just plain wrong.
 
Mouron.. Jesus Christ, the state of this place sometimes..
Amazing to see some posters writing Marcus off too..
According to @SSSSnake he isn't even a footballer..
 
He is not playing well this season but that is completely expected. I think he is over played and exposed too much, he will develop into a good player at the very least IMHO. We just need to be patient and hope that Mourinho manages him better because playing him as much as he is, isn't very good management.

Yet he's also accused of managing Martial badly by not playing him enough. He really can't win, can he?
 
Think some unfair comments on him, with his long range shooting and the great display for England he showed me even more he can be the real deal in a few years time. Not good enough now to start but great impact sub.

The free-kick he took against WBA was a new one to me. Didn't know he had that in his locker. Cracking technique.
 
Like any other young english player, he is definitely massively overrated. This season is really bad for him as 3 goals and 1 assist in 24 apps is shocking. However he is still 19 so he has lots of time to improve but so far he looks like exact copy of Welbeck.
 
I said he needs a loan in a more laidback environment, then stuck a semi-colon in there to elaborate that if he was in this intense environment under a proper advocate of youth development like Van Gaal or Pocchettino, he'd be fine.

Pocchettino has effectively recreated the United of the early 90's at Spurs; he's a proper United manager, and puts the Mouron to shame.

Is that Sauron's brother.
 
I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading in here. No technical ability, no skill, should be loaned out. Are you all crazy?!

I understand his lack of goals is frustrating, but more experienced players have gone through similar phases. Rashford will come out of the other side, I've no doubt about it.

I don't see what's crazy about him being loaned out. The club is in a transitory phase and there's a lot of pressure on the team to get back into the top 4 and CL football. The results are not there at the moment and the players performances are getting over-scrutinised as a result. A lot of the players are under-performing, maybe (partly) as a result of that pressure.

Playing in a lower ranked team could help him get more minutes as CF (which he needs), allow him to develop and find his scoring boots again. It could benefit both him and the club.
 
I don't see what's crazy about him being loaned out. The club is in a transitory phase and there's a lot of pressure on the team to get back into the top 4 and CL football. The results are not there at the moment and the players performances are getting over-scrutinised as a result. A lot of the players are under-performing, maybe (partly) as a result of that pressure.

Playing in a lower ranked team could help him get more minutes as CF (which he needs), allow him to develop and find his scoring boots again. It could benefit both him and the club.

It's crazy because he's good enough to be playing for us. Not to mention we'd have to buy someone to take his play within the squad. It's actually really really crazy the more I think about it.
 
It's crazy because he's good enough to be playing for us. Not to mention we'd have to buy someone to take his play within the squad. It's actually really really crazy the more I think about it.


First off, he's good enough to be a squad player but not good enough to be a starter at the moment. He's not better than Ibra is, as a CF. The other forwards he's competing for time with (Mata, Martial, Mkhi) have all been more productive than him and the latter two have less minutes than Rashford too. It's hard to argue that he's a better player than any of them at the moment.

Secondly, as you might have noticed our attack has not been good enough. We are already trying to buy someone (Griezmann), by the looks of things, to improve our goal scoring. If he does come, Rashfords time will be further limited (as with the rest of the players) as a result.

So the question is, is it better for him to stay here and be squad player or should we send him off on loan for a year in the hopes more first team football will help his development?
 
First off, he's good enough to be a squad player but not good enough to be a starter at the moment. He's not better than Ibra is, as a CF. The other forwards he's competing for time with (Mata, Martial, Mkhi) have all been more productive than him and the latter two have less minutes than Rashford too. It's hard to argue that he's a better player than any of them at the moment.

Secondly, as you might have noticed our attack has not been good enough. We are already trying to buy someone (Griezmann), by the looks of things, to improve our goal scoring. If he does come, Rashfords time will be further limited (as with the rest of the players) as a result.

So the question is, is it better for him to stay here and be squad player or should we send him off on loan for a year in the hopes more first team football will help his development?

Far too early to know the answer to that question. If he has a stormer in pre-season (or in the last month of this season) then I could easily see Jose keeping a space for him in next season's squad. He seems to rate him very highly, so fingers crossed. I, for one, am delighted that Mourinho's making such an effort with a young, homegrown talent after all the negativity about his record at developing youngsters.
 
First off, he's good enough to be a squad player but not good enough to be a starter at the moment. He's not better than Ibra is, as a CF. The other forwards he's competing for time with (Mata, Martial, Mkhi) have all been more productive than him and the latter two have less minutes than Rashford too. It's hard to argue that he's a better player than any of them at the moment.

Secondly, as you might have noticed our attack has not been good enough. We are already trying to buy someone (Griezmann), by the looks of things, to improve our goal scoring. If he does come, Rashfords time will be further limited (as with the rest of the players) as a result.

So the question is, is it better for him to stay here and be squad player or should we send him off on loan for a year in the hopes more first team football will help his development?

A lot of ifs and buts there.

I still think he's better staying here because I think he's good enough to play for us.

In fact, if he's loaned out I'll be pretty pissed off with Jose. I very much doubt he will be doing that. Jose looks to be a huge fan of Rashford thankfully.
 
A lot of ifs and buts there.

There was only one if. If a forward player comes. And that not a big if at all, it's widely accepted we're in the market to replace Rooney, who's currently getting no game time. Such an arrival will cause more competition for game time.

I still think he's better staying here because I think he's good enough to play for us.

In fact, if he's loaned out I'll be pretty pissed off with Jose. I very much doubt he will be doing that. Jose looks to be a huge fan of Rashford thankfully.

I'm not exactly arguing if he's good enough to play, he deserves a squad role very much so. I'm arguing if more game time somewhere else, in his preferred position, would be more beneficial to him and us in the long term. Because as much a fan as Jose is, he has been playing him LW rather than striker pretty much all season with a couple of exceptions.

Why is it seen as a bad thing if a player is loaned out? Why would you be pissed off with Jose about this? Jose sent Lukaku on loan at WBA at the same age and he played 35 games benefiting greatly.
 
It's bad because he's already established himself here @MadMike. Think people really do forgot what he's capable of.

He's having a difficult second season, I get it. But all this negative talk is knee jerk and as far as I'm concerned pretty much nonsense.

I'm just glad Jose seems to have patience.
 
Yet he's also accused of managing Martial badly by not playing him enough. He really can't win, can he?

I see both of them at different stages of development. It is all about balance and Martial is more advanced as a player than Rashford so therefore he should be playing more.
I don't like the way so much responsibilities rest on the shoulders of those young players though, it is mental to expect too much from them.
 
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