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That probably belongs in the Lingard thread then. And no he wasn't average. Whenever he's been poor, van Gaal has rightly subbed him off. Sanchez was anonymous today and that's because of him and Varela, but that belongs in another thread.
Considering I'm talking about Rashford playing on the right that's why it needs to be in this thread! Don't correct someone if your wrong! I agree lingard defended well today, but guess what we aren't playing Arsenal next we are playing Watford so I think we can get away with trying Rashford out wide. What would you prefer? To drop him if Martial comes back. I also think Rashford pressed and defended very well from the front so I don't see any reason he can't do the same thing out wide. Lingard has done ok and I do think he's got a squad role in the club but if Rashford can take this form to the wing we are set.
 
Yeah I wouldn't move Rashford around, he seems to occupy the box better and Martial thrives on space and freedom to roam. It's a nice problem to have though as dropping any of them right now seems harsh.

We have the luxury of being able to ease Martial back in or protecting Rashford if we don't want to force players around.
 
Considering I'm talking about Rashford playing on the right that's why it needs to be in this thread! Don't correct someone if your wrong! I agree lingard defended well today, but guess what we aren't playing Arsenal next we are playing Watford so I think we can get away with trying Rashford out wide. What would you prefer? To drop him if Martial comes back. I also think Rashford pressed and defended very well from the front so I don't see any reason he can't do the same thing out wide. Lingard has done ok and I do think he's got a squad role in the club but if Rashford can take this form to the wing we are set.
Chill mate, that's why I only quoted the part you talked about Lingard being average and commented on that.
Yeah, we could try that. But the thing is Rashford started his career as a winger and has been pretty much working intensely this past year and last year to improve his game as a striker. So to again put him back in the wings would be undoing his development in terms of movement, natural instinct, hold up play, first touch etc. In fact even when he played as a striker, he had a natural tendency to float into the channels (until van Gaal told him to stop doing that). As good as the idea sounds, I'd rather preserve the integrity of the lads development long term than looking to see how effective he can be out wide.

But when Martial does return to the fold, van Gaal will more likely drop Rashford. I'd personally hope we can play Depay on the right and Martial on the left.
 
Chill mate, that's why I only quoted the part you talked about Lingard being average and commented on that.
Yeah, we could try that. But the thing is Rashford started his career as a winger and has been pretty much working intensely this past year and last year to improve his game as a striker. So to again put him back in the wings would be undoing his development in terms of movement, natural instinct, hold up play, first touch etc. In fact even when he played as a striker, he had a natural tendency to float into the channels (until van Gaal told him to stop doing that). As good as the idea sounds, I'd rather preserve the integrity of the lads development long term than looking to see how effective he can be out wide.

But when Martial does return to the fold, van Gaal will more likely drop Rashford. I'd personally hope we can play Depay on the right and Martial on the left.
Thing is I see that sort of opinion a fair bit but some of the best strikers have played from the wing at a young age. Martial for example has been brilliant of the left wing but I still think he will be a ST long term. Personally I think Rashford lacked abit of presence to play upfront, his movement and pace was amazing but I honestly can't remember him winning a header from a GK in a similar way to Martial. It's probably a good dilemma to have but I would just like to give that a try.
Just quickly regarding Depay, I think his main assets is going inside to shoot as more of a wide forward, I don't see him being able to play as effectively from the right wing.
 
Thing is I see that sort of opinion a fair bit but some of the best strikers have played from the wing at a young age. Martial for example has been brilliant of the left wing but I still think he will be a ST long term. Personally I think Rashford lacked abit of presence to play upfront, his movement and pace was amazing but I honestly can't remember him winning a header from a GK in a similar way to Martial. It's probably a good dilemma to have but I would just like to give that a try.
It doesn't always have to be about winning the header. The funny thing is Rashford was a tiny little fella when he joined the club and then suddenly had a growth spurt at 16 I think. He's got very good jumping ability, maybe just not the bravery to challenge someone for a header. But that can be trained into you over time. But if you looked at the game, he held the ball up really well with his back to goal. That to me shows a lot of presence, especially considering his build. And if you are to play him in the wing, I think on the left side would be better then. Most of the top strikers, Anelka, Henry all started from the left.
Just quickly regarding Depay, I think his main assets is going inside to shoot as more of a wide forward, I don't see him being able to play as effectively from the right wing.
That's precisely why I would like to try him on the right. He has very good technique and tonnes of power. He can use it to great effect on the right. Add to that his skill set and he could regularly get to the byline and deliver low hard crosses or high floaty one's. I think he even played one quarter of some CL game on the right, and had an instant telepathic understanding with Martial.
 
Wonderful from the 18 year old. Loved the header and the assist showed intelligence. Could have just tried to do it all on his own mechanically but he had presence of mind.
 
Did you guys see him when he took Bellerin out for a run and looked just as fast, at least? He also outpaced Koscielny, who is really fast. Add his blistering pace to his ability to be in the right place at the right time, he might turn out very good. His assist for Herrera's goal was also a great move.
 
I see a Chicharito Hernandez in his game. Runs his ass off, makes clever runs, and is a pretty damn good finisher. However, he dosen't look like much of a dribbler to me or someone who is that technically gifted and can pick out a fantastic pass. I don't think trying him out-wide would do him any favors. He is a pure striker.

Great game today.
 
Wow what a player this lad is, I just hope the club keep his feet on the ground because we see it so often with young players they get carried and mess their careers up. I seriously hope this doesn't happen to him, he's had an incredible start to his senior career and long may it continue.
 
Put the stats next to his name, I want to see them every time I open this thread :drool:
 
Wow what a player this lad is, I just hope the club keep his feet on the ground because we see it so often with young players they get carried and mess their careers up. I seriously hope this doesn't happen to him, he's had an incredible start to his senior career and long may it continue.
I wouldn't worry about that as we have Giggs and Butt, who have travelled the same path, to keep him grounded.
 
He's very different to what we currently have in that he looks to have that knack of being in the right place at the right time. All four of his goals have been around the six yard box - poachers territory. He looks quick to seize chances and his finishing looks clinical, he's not scuffing them in, there's composure and accuracy and long may it continue.

Martial is a class act and he has to play but I wouldn't drop Rashford. I don't care who's waiting in the wings this lads confidence will be through the roof and why curtail the kid in this vein of form. Give him a rest when he dries up but not now.
 
I see a Chicharito Hernandez in his game. Runs his ass off, makes clever runs, and is a pretty damn good finisher. However, he dosen't look like much of a dribbler to me or someone who is that technically gifted and can pick out a fantastic pass. I don't think trying him out-wide would do him any favors. He is a pure striker.

Great game today.
He hasnt showed it much for the first team yet but dribbling is probably actually his biggest strength. He's only really added what you'd call proper strikers goals like those he's scored for the first team to his game in the past few months
 
I see a Chicharito Hernandez in his game. Runs his ass off, makes clever runs, and is a pretty damn good finisher. However, he dosen't look like much of a dribbler to me or someone who is that technically gifted and can pick out a fantastic pass. I don't think trying him out-wide would do him any favors. He is a pure striker.
Wrong.
 
He hasnt showed it much for the first team yet but dribbling is probably actually his biggest strength. He's only really added what you'd call proper strikers goals like those he's scored for the first team to his game in the past few months
If you say so, but going off of what I've seen at the first team He looked a little bit sloppy trying to go at defenders. We will see what he really is as the games go by...
 
He hasn't quite got past or through the defenders when he's ran at them but we are talking an 18 year old kid here who 72 hours ago was nowhere on the radar. You can see he's got an explosiveness about him and if he develops just imagine what a beast we could have in 18 months or so. He will only get faster, stronger and technically better as he matures and although it's early days he's given himself one hell of a platform to kick on from.
 
He hasn't quite got past or through the defenders when he's ran at them but we are talking an 18 year old kid here who 72 hours ago was nowhere on the radar. You can see he's got an explosiveness about him and if he develops just imagine what a beast we could have in 18 months or so. He will only get faster, stronger and technically better as he matures and although it's early days he's given himself one hell of a platform to kick on from.

He has a few times tbh. His first effort on Thursday and the pen he almost won today (if he wasn't fouled he would have probably scored)
 
At this point I'm more impressed by his maturity and mental resilience. The physicality will come over time, but it makes it easier when you step up on your PL debut and act like you've been playing for years.
 
At this point I'm more impressed by his maturity and mental resilience. The physicality will come over time, but it makes it easier when you step up on your PL debut and act like you've been playing for years.
How can you measure his mental resilience at this point? What is obvious to see is the timing and intelligence of his movement. He needs proper development and if that is achieved, watch out.
 
I think Martial and Rashford could quite easily interchange positions. I'd favor Rashford central though as he's going through a purple patch. Let that continue, and I think Martial will get more space now on the wing because teams will be wary of Rashford. There should be a degree of freedom and with Wilson and Keane we are in a good moment. Rashford for me, is in advance of himself. He's clearly thriving and i'm sure there's more to come.
 



Stunning performance from Marcus. My MOTM. Hope he isn't out too long, need him to play next to Martial.

Did that fourth official slap Januzaj's arse at the end of that first video :lol:?
 
He was fair enough, but seemed a bit hesitant and ran out of steam quickly. 3/10


JUST KIDDING!
 
What player, past or present, does he remind you of?

This may be too convenient but he sort of reminds me of Martial when he first came to United.
 
Here's an idea.. How about Rashford and Martial through the middle together?

Mata's place shouldn't be a lock. He hasn't had a great season. And Martial and Rashford through the middle would be tricky to say the least
 
Here's an idea.. How about Rashford and Martial through the middle together?

Mata's place shouldn't be a lock. He hasn't had a great season. And Martial and Rashford through the middle would be tricky to say the least
A central defence's nightmare if they're both playing with confidence!
 
A central defence's nightmare if they're both playing with confidence!
Don't want to get too carried away in this season of one step forward and two steps back, but you could throw current form Memphis into that too and make the defender just want to go home. Pace, power and youth.

Hopefully they get a chance together anyway. Feeling a bit more excited about the rest of the season at least
 
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