Where next for him? Did really well at BMG but had an absolute mare in the CL with Dortmund this season. It's a pity he didn't get the Haaland cash to augment the team. Would be quite interesting to see him in England. Everton might be desperate for a new manager.
Marco Rose - RB Leipzig manager
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Dortmund never was patient in regards to coaches.
I think people are influenced by Klopp but everyone needs to remember that in the past 40+ years only three coaches survived more than 3 years at Dortmund: Hitzfeld, Sammer and Klopp.
Both Hitzfeld and Klopp turned out to be genuine world class coaches and Sammer was "special" due to his past with the club and being the "Nagelsmann" of his time.
It's true that Dortmund had too many coaches recently, but in the last 15 years:
Doll stepped down himself
Klopp stayed for 7 years, Watzke actually extended his contract when he had a bad start in his second year
Tuchel would never have been sacked for sporting reasons, probably would have wanted to make another step up after his initial contract anyway
Bosz had the team in free fall
Favre got the chance to fulfill his three year contract, lost the dressing room in his last season. Watzke backed him through a crisis in his second season (0:3 down to Paderborn at half time)
I think Rose is the only one, who can genuinely complain about a lack of patience.
You came across that information whilst in the middle of typing a 1 sentence post?
Done a quick search after posting it because something clicked, so i double checked and just edited it rather than deleting it. Is that okay boss?
Arteta!
I remember reports of Ten Hag wanting the Bayern job eventually, so I doubt he'd have gone to Dortmund regardless.
No edit label on your post, so it seemed like you had some sort of schizophrenic revelation haha.
Sorry, thread title needs an update but after the super cup win I was just curious to ask how Rose is doing at Leipzig? I know his stock dropped a bit during his stint at Dortmund. I’d be lying if I said I watched any of his Dortmund matches or his RBL matches, outside of keeping an eye on results.
He definitely is a very good manager (as was obvious before) who nonetheless has some flaws (meaning he is not among the absolute best). In Dortmund there was some trouble but Dortmund is always trouble in recent years, that's probably not really his fault. In the end he has now won two of the three titles Leipzip have ever won (granted the Super Cup yesterday doesn't count for much, but who cares). Im comparison to someone overhyped like Nagelsmann he definitely does a better and more solid job.
Thanks bud. Interesting bit about Nagelsmann - even I fell/fall for the hype. Would’ve probably been up there with EtH for my choice of manager were he available and not at Bayern at the time. Thankfully I don’t make decisions for United
Nagelsmann did a stellar job at Hoffenheim and at the time that hype was justified, but he somehow just became worse the bigger his jobs got. Rose seems to get the same out of all his teams (relative to their quality) and seems to have less difficulty adjusting to the group he has.Thanks bud. Interesting bit about Nagelsmann - even I fell/fall for the hype. Would’ve probably been up there with EtH for my choice of manager were he available and not at Bayern at the time. Thankfully I don’t make decisions for United
Thanks bud. Interesting bit about Nagelsmann - even I fell/fall for the hype. Would’ve probably been up there with EtH for my choice of manager were he available and not at Bayern at the time. Thankfully I don’t make decisions for United
Nagelsmann is a top manager. Him being fired at Bayern cost directors their job it was a complete mess. They were on for a treble when he was sacked….then ended up scraping the league on goal difference after a complete feck up by Dortmund.
I think he lost 3 games in 12 months or something ridiculous
I think Leipzig is where he belongs. They offer him a nice pseudo-underdog role, where he gets praise when things go well and no one talks about it when they don't, like going 0-11 in three successive games against City, Bochum and Mainz.
And while Dortmund did have their issues during his stay, there were too many absolutely unacceptable results to even think of absolving him of his responsibility. Like the cup campaigns: getting hammered in Amsterdam, going out of the CL against Sporting, then losing 2:4 at home against Rangers in the EL - and not winning the return leg either. In the domestic cup he went out to St. Pauli, too.
Then in the league there were another bunch of completely unacceptable results, like losing 1:4 against Leipzig, 2:5 against Leverkusen and finally having an embarrassing 3:4 defeat in the derby against Bochum - all at home. 6 defeats in 17 home games, I had to go back as far as 99/00 to find a season with as many losses. Terzic, coaching the team before and after him, has 2 in 28 matches.
I think he's a good coach, but I don't see anything special about him. He's playing the standard Leipzig football, getting about as much as you can reasonably expect out of the squad. And I got the impression that he's not very comfortable with the media. I don't see why bigger clubs should look at him. And I don't see any reason to compare him favourably to Nagelsmann, who actually pulled off some miracles before joining Bayern and whose performance there - in hindsight - have been looking better with every passing week.
Yeah, I think everyone agrees that the sacking was a little premature perhaps, but it seems the football wasn’t pretty and they were grinding results of sorts. I still rate him, don’t get me wrong. But I guess there aren’t many “sure things” out there in terms of managers, outside of Pep and Klopp, and perhaps a couple of others (hoping EtH reaches that level with us
).Good to see him doing very well again. Probably one of the few managers who could work with our squad when Erik goes.
Didn't he fail at Borussia though? If I remember correctly Erik took him to the cleaners both home and away in what was dubbed the CL group of hipsters back then: Rose with BVB, Erik with Ajax and Amorim with Sporting.
Finished 2nd I think which was par for the course, sold Sancho just before he joined. He plays what Erik is trying to do at United, which is something the club need otherwise it’s another rebuild.
Yes, but overall he had a good career. Not all seasons go well, that's normal for managers.
He is a decent manager, however with our current level of chaos I would stay away from him. Don't think he what we need.