I fecking hate that cnuting smiley and now I hate you.
Marco Reus
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to celebrate rare back-to-back victories for Manchester United! They analyse the late win in the Europa League vs. Rangers and then try and find things to analyse in a pretty dour game vs. Fulham. They also chat about the latest Marcus Rashford news, and look at the latest transfer news.
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The likelyhood of Kagawa moving in the other direction is become less and less likely, he's been our best player over the last month, we need to be adding to our squad taking away from it.
Not at all, he's actually very fond of United but he just tells it like it is.
Sky sports confirmed what Gotze said.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...ms-marco-reus-wants-to-join-manchester-united
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...ms-marco-reus-wants-to-join-manchester-united
Yeah it is a cnutish smiley to be fair.
sky. Finger on the pulseThat's appalling from Sky. They're no better than the Sun these days.
99% of sports journalism in a nutshell. Repeat rumors and make shit up yourself. And these people are getting payed for doing it, amazing.
I can't believe Sky sports picked the story up. So embarrassing that they clearly didnt do an ounce of research.
Oh dear.
What amuses me is that Sky thought the quotes were legit to begin with. With all their journalistic sources, they collectively believed it was perfectly feasible for Goetze to say something like that
interesting these passed the language filter thing...
test...cnut!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...eidenfeller-sure-alerted-suitors-Man-Utd.html
something to feed on for today
something to feed on for today
What do you mean this guy? He's an ex PL/Bundesliga footballer, not some random ITK.
And?
It's because we're going after unrealistic targets. Vidal? Kroos? Reus? No chance for all 3 of them. Firstly because they won't leave their club this summer in the first place. Secondly, because if they were looking to leave, they'd go to a champions league club of their choosing pretty much who could potentially offer as much as we could money wise as well as being in the champions league, competing for trophies, playing good football. Sure we're one of the biggest clubs in the world, but so is Real/Barca/Bayern and they'd be sure to go after all those players as well.
Madrid/Bayern/Barca already have a monopoly on the best CM's in the world. Madrid have Alonso/Modric/Khedira and just spent 30m on Illarmendi, how are they in for Kroos/Vidal? Similar story at Barca were they have an overload in CM and a desperate need to strengthen other areas like CB/GK a new number 9 as Villa was never replaced and a possible replacement for Alves. Not to mention they just spent 100m on Neymar who plays wide left which completely rules out Reus, can't see Madrid moving Ronaldo along anytime soon or Bayern with Ribery. Barca will have zero interest in any of those players despite their obvious quality.
I do think Kroos is unrealistic but Vidal and Reus are both on a fraction of what they could earn at United at the moment which is always the biggest factor in transfers like it or not. Neither of them would turn down the chance to play for United earn 3x money and will know us being out of the champions league is only in the short term.
To think we're in some kind of transfer limbo is laughable. Your not talking about Everton, Newcastle or even Arsenal. Your talking about Manchester fecking United.
We took Mata from Chelsea when Mourinho said himself "we'd rather sell him to west Brom for 50p than United for 50m" we took RVP from Arsenal when it was considered "impossible" Arsenal would never sell their best player to a rival. We got Kagawa from Dortmund after he had won best player in Bundesliga two years in a row and was considered a vital, integral cog to the Dortmund set up.
Don't spout utter bollocks and say we can't sign Vidal, Kroos, Reus, players of this ilk when in actual fact time, time, time again we sign top players BEST PLAYERS from accross the continent.
Mata-Chelsea best player
RVP- Arsenal best player
Kagawa- Bundesliga best player
Chicha-Mexican best player
Henriquez-Chile player of the year.
Smalling- Fulham best CB
Jones- Blackburn best CB
Rooney-Everton promising young CF
Rio-Leeds best CB
Valencia- touted as the best winger in the world by pep.
Just shut up about this utter non-sense that United can't sign the best players when that's all we've done. It's baseless and embarassing.
We took Mata from Chelsea when Mourinho said himself "we'd rather sell him to west Brom for 50p than United for 50m" we took RVP from Arsenal when it was considered "impossible" Arsenal would never sell their best player to a rival. We got Kagawa from Dortmund after he had won best player in Bundesliga two years in a row and was considered a vital, integral cog to the Dortmund set up.
Don't spout utter bollocks and say we can't sign Vidal, Kroos, Reus, players of this ilk when in actual fact time, time, time again we sign top players BEST PLAYERS from accross the continent.
Mata-Chelsea best player
RVP- Arsenal best player
Kagawa- Bundesliga best player
Chicha-Mexican best player
Henriquez-Chile player of the year.
Smalling- Fulham best CB
Jones- Blackburn best CB
Rooney-Everton promising young CF
Rio-Leeds best CB
Valencia- touted as the best winger in the world by pep.
Just shut up about this utter non-sense that United can't sign the best players when that's all we've done. It's baseless and embarassing.
Biggest problem might be that Moyes will need to have a look at Reus that could mean another season at least. He spent half of last summer thinking about Alcantara and wheter or not he would be able to make it at United. Then went and blew his lot on Fellaini. Bellend.
Haven't you already announced the signing of Reus?
I think you're right, we will continue to sign to be able to sign Blackburn and Fulham's best players
Oh what a shame we signed Jones and Smalling I'm truly dissapointed with those awful.relegation fodder players.
I don't know what's more pathetic. Sky covering all sorts of bullshit or the fact that Reus is being referred to 'Dortmund's Rooney'.
Yes, Rooney... the loyalist that he is. I honestly couldn't name a single player that has openly requested a transfer from the same club on two separate occasions.
Yes, Rooney... the loyalist that he is. I honestly couldn't name a single player that has openly requested a transfer from the same club on two separate occasions.
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Van Nistelrooy did, I believe.
You make a fair point generally although it's worth pointing out that Mata wasn't in Mourinho's plans while Van Persie and Kagawa both only had a year left on their contracts. Even when we had great sides and a great manager, we were never able to attract quality players from the very top clubs. Maybe we will this summer, the club are certainly briefing that they're going to throw a ton of money to get us back in the top 4, but they'll have to because I have my doubts about Moyes and Woodward's ability to get these deals done and how attractive a proposition United as a club are at the moment.
You accuse others of making baseless claims while bringing up the myth of Kagawa winning the award of the best Bundesliga player of the season? He did not win it once, let alone twice.
The other problem with your post is that aside from RvP, Kagawa and Mata all players you listed were either promising talents or came from significantly smaller clubs. Even RvP and Kagawa made a step up by joining United and the transfers were under favourable circumstances for United.
Kagawa made it clear quite early that his ultimate goal was to play in the EPL and especially the most popular United given the massive standing of the league in Japan.
RvP is a world class striker, but also injury prone and was for his age and contract situation a quite costly transfer.
That leaves Mata, a player with undisputed class, but also a player who was driven out of the team by Mourinho because he did not fit the latter´s tactical plan. He was also expensive.
Now, in the cases of Vidal, Kroos and Reus you have no favourable circumstances. Vidal is Juventus´ star player, payed as such and has already signed a new contract in December. Kroos plays for a club, which is not only at least equal in pretty much every aspect to United but also has a history of not selling players they don´t want to. Kroos himself has also already confirmed of playing for Munich next season.
Regarding Reus, I don´t see any reason for himself or Dortmund to transfer in the Summer, unless you make an offer both parties can´t refuse, which means a huge transfer fee, a big salary and quite a bit of a signing fee for the player/agent. That could summarize to around 80 Mil. € quite easily, a sum I don´t see you guys paying. The guy can leave for a bargain (in relation to what he brings to the table) in 2015. I can see nearly every European elite club lining up then and be ready to pay the 35 Mil. € towards Dortmund. Everything on top of that (a signing fee of 10+ Mil.€ is not unrealistic) will go directly into Reus´ own pocket. There is no reason to force an earlier move, especially when he will be unable to play in the competition which he regards as the most important in that one season.
This guy is a machine and would suit the PL to boot. Direct, fast, can score; he could be our Bale (another one that would be perfect for us). I think he'd be perfect as the outlet for Mata and Kagawa (and Rooney, for certain extent).
I feel like Sphaero should be allowed a stickied post because he has to write the same post over and over again.
Come on. Just... come on. They are nowhere near the best players in the world. Not even close.
Valencia is horrendous now and came from Wigan.
Buying players from Blackburn, Fulham, Wigan, Guadalajara, Universidad de Chile is not a sign that we can buy the best players in the world. Not sure why you included such players, to be honest.
Mata and Kagawa, absolutely. But if Reus skyrocketed to stardom as a result, the bolded one would ask for another transfer.
Do you even think once before pouring, what it would seem, your heart out?
The likes of Vidal, Kroos, Reus are almost next to impossible to get. Two of them already play at Europeon powerhouses. Vidal has shown zero interest in leaving. The guy has tattoos of the number of titles for Juve! Kroos is a homegrown lad and Bayern are as big as us in almost every department.
That leaves Reus from your list. So many have said that he has a €35 million release clause in 2015. Why would Dortmund sell him before that unless a crazy sum like €50-55 million is chucked at them. Then we would have to pay Reus a huge salary to boot. Are we actually going to make that kind of investment in just one player when we have so many areas of the pitch to strengthen.
I think you should wake up and smell the coffee. Everyone wants these stories to be true but there are more chances they are bs.
Rooney never seemed to have a problem with Ronaldo.
Does Solid state constantly flip flop between state of matters? Didn't he start a thread saying because of failure to qualify for CL, we'll not get our first hand targets and will have to settle for the second? Now we're getting Reus again?
You forgot Bebe, possibly the best once homeless player in the world.
You forgot Fellaini , Everton's best player and Ashley Young. Villa's best player.
Seriously though the players you mentioned weren't nailed to stay at their clubs.
Mata - Mourinho didn't rate him and he had to leave to pursue his career elsewhere. He wasn't in plans so Mou had to sell him because he was too good to be on the bench and we paid the big money.
RVP - Wanted to win trophies and knew we were the best club to offer him the chance.
Kagawa - Wasn't going to sign a new contract and clearly wanted to leave.
Chicha - More than half the caf didn't even know him when he was signed.
Henriquez - Where did you hear that he was the player of the year?
Smalling - you've got to be kidding. Are Fulham as big a club as Juventus,Bayern and Dortmund?
Jones - He was 19 when we signed him. Was he as good as the likes of Vidal,Kross and other best players in the world in their positions?
Rooney - Again. 18 year old when huge potential and someone who knew Fergie would get the best out of him. Far from a finished product.
Rio - It can make a case but no Leeds weren't in the Champions League.
Now talk about the muppet players. Vidal is playing at Juventus and loves the club also signed a contract just a few months ago. Kroos is at the best club in the world enjoying winning trophies. Reus is Dortmund through and through. Its like a German club trying to sign Welbeck.
Of course I'd love if we sign these players. Its not impossible but it'd take a huge bid and convince the player that we'll be in Europe next season to make him want to come here. I know where you're coming from but you're making too much out if it.
Rooney would still be the main man up-front, just like Lewa in Dortmund side. I think Rooney would thrive on having fast player to play with. One can dream, eh?
Even Rooney understands not to pick a fight with the best player in the world...
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