Marc Jurado | leaves on a permanent deal

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padzilla said:
If he's any good he'll agitate to go back at the first opportunity a la Pique and Fabregas.
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Pique and Cesc wanted to return home to the best team in Europe. We’ll be better than Barcelona within two years.
 
Rozay said:
Pique and Cesc wanted to return home to the best team in Europe. We’ll be better than Barcelona within two years.
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And even if he went back to Barca it would mean we would have a top player for a number of years and earn quality profit.
 
izec said:
I never said when he might go back to Barca. Also i didn't specify that he would move from United to Barca.

He may decline a contract now for money reasons or low chances of making a breakthrough, but in a couple of years or a decade, everything will be forgotten and he will go back if he is good enough to potentially start there and they are in need of a RB.

Pique, Fabregas. Heavily flirting with Bellerin for a while. You can laugh all you want, but if he turns out to be a very good player, you can bet your house on it that Barca will be chasing him if they need a RB. If he turns out to be average or barely good enough, nobody will care anyway.

Real usually loan them out or sell them with a buy back clause. And they all are eager to crawl back to them. In recent times, Odegaard, Carvajal, Hakimi.

The only risk is that he may leave sooner than you think. But if you get him for peanuts and you can sell him for a good price, at least you made some money. But you have to be aware of it, that such a scenario might turn up at some point.
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I think you missed his joke, he is agreeing with you. Notice he didn't finish his last sentence before saying what you said wasn't a bad shout. He's agreeing with you, as am I and I would imagine most people would.
 
He's a RB from what I've read.

Some of the footage in the vid seems to be when he was younger than his current age so please don't be surprised when he becomes bigger and taller half way through the vid.

 
izec said:
I never said when he might go back to Barca. Also i didn't specify that he would move from United to Barca.

He may decline a contract now for money reasons or low chances of making a breakthrough, but in a couple of years or a decade, everything will be forgotten and he will go back if he is good enough to potentially start there and they are in need of a RB.

Pique, Fabregas. Heavily flirting with Bellerin for a while. You can laugh all you want, but if he turns out to be a very good player, you can bet your house on it that Barca will be chasing him if they need a RB. If he turns out to be average or barely good enough, nobody will care anyway.

Real usually loan them out or sell them with a buy back clause. And they all are eager to crawl back to them. In recent times, Odegaard, Carvajal, Hakimi.

The only risk is that he may leave sooner than you think. But if you get him for peanuts and you can sell him for a good price, at least you made some money. But you have to be aware of it, that such a scenario might turn up at some point.
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I was just joking. Gerard Pique reference
 
Cool... shows we’ve got our ears to the ground. Beyond that, nothing much. I’d be excited if Spanish papers were mourning the loss of a super talent but clearly this is yet another talented kid that were bringing into our system. I did not expect Brandon Williams to amount to much at United, but that lad has burst through and is a good squad addition.

No one knows who will become who. Unless their talent is undeniable and have the head for it. Else you’re just signing for Sheffield believing the hype.
 
Ali Dia said:
Look at adnan and Piazon both extremely highly rated as youngsters and both probably wealthy men by now... but maybe it takes a bad loan or some time away from the club to show our fans that these players were never going to make it here in the long run.
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Elsewhere I hear that bad loans are the reason Ole hasn't agreed loans this year, for Garner for example. Bad loans such TFM, CBJ, and Demitri Mitchell got. Looks like United are now going to more trouble to make sure loan club is suitable for the player.
 
Mark Pawelek said:
Elsewhere I hear that bad loans are the reason Ole hasn't agreed loans this year, for Garner for example. Bad loans such TFM, CBJ, and Demitri Mitchell got. Looks like United are now going to more trouble to make sure loan club is suitable for the player.
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I think is more about the player than the club, if the player is good enough he’ll play.

the harsh reality is that most youngsters wont make it professionally and even less will make it at top level, so we shouldn’t be surprised most youngsters dont progress enough to be part of Man Utd senior team.
 
Any chance he'll be involved with the first team next season, maybe third in line, after AWB and Laird, with Dalot sold/loaned?
 
Bastian said:
Any chance he'll be involved with the first team next season, maybe third in line, after AWB and Laird, with Dalot sold/loaned?
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No way, he's only 16.
 
AltiUn said:
Probably just envisions an easier pathway into the United first team.
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If Laird is promoted to understudy to AWB then that builds on the Williams promotion and is a great sign for all the youth. Excited by this acquisition.
 
Bastian said:
So the move is about money only?
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Why would you be asking someone on the internet what his intentions were? He is moving to further his career, simple as. He sees it as better than continuing at Barcelona. That’s all that matters right now, for a 16 year old.
 
Rozay said:
Why would you be asking someone on the internet what his intentions were? He is moving to further his career, simple as. He sees it as better than continuing at Barcelona. That’s all that matters right now, for a 16 year old.
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Why would you ask someone on the Internet why they asked someone on the Internet...Come to think of it, why am I asking someone on the Internet, why he is asking someone on the Internet, why he is asking someone on the Internet.

Sometimes posters are more informed about certain pieces of news.
 
Bastian said:
Why would you ask someone on the Internet why they asked someone on the Internet...Come to think of it, why am I asking someone on the Internet, why he is asking someone on the Internet, why he is asking someone on the Internet.

Sometimes posters are more informed about certain pieces of news.
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Why though.
 
Hang on just a minute guys, I’ve got it on good authority from the Cafe that Dortmund is the only place a youngster can go if they want to be world class and play first team football.
Would someone care to explain what’s going on? Because it looks like we just snapped up one of Spain’s best Young right backs.
 
crossy1686 said:
Hang on just a minute guys, I’ve got it on good authority from the Cafe that Dortmund is the only place a youngster can go if they want to be world class and play first team football.
Would someone care to explain what’s going on? Because it looks like we just snapped up one of Spain’s best Young right backs.
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:lol: I would share your enthusiasm but then we said the same about signing Portugal's best young right back..

Still too early to see of course but yeah.
 
Bastian said:
Why would you ask someone on the Internet why they asked someone on the Internet...Come to think of it, why am I asking someone on the Internet, why he is asking someone on the Internet, why he is asking someone on the Internet.

Sometimes posters are more informed about certain pieces of news.
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Why are you asking if it's just about money? Is it impossible to think he wanted to move to United from Barca for any other reason or something? Seems a very loaded question tbh.
 
TheReligion said:
Why are you asking if it's just about money? Is it impossible to think he wanted to move to United from Barca for any other reason or something? Seems a very loaded question tbh.
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I'm not going to dig a trench and defend this comment to the bitter end. I am just curious whether he was promised a clear path to first team football soon or if he was massively compensated. I do acknowledge there are more factors than those two. Didn't expect a spurious comment to engage so much attention..
 
Bastian said:
... I am just curious whether he was promised a clear path to first team football soon or if he was massively compensated. I do acknowledge there are more factors than those two. Didn't expect a spurious comment to engage so much attention..
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Or something else. Maybe he looked at the record of youth development at United, and decided he has better prospects of career development here than there?
 
Bastian said:
I'm not going to dig a trench and defend this comment to the bitter end. I am just curious whether he was promised a clear path to first team football soon or if he was massively compensated. I do acknowledge there are more factors than those two. Didn't expect a spurious comment to engage so much attention..
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OK.

1. He wont have been 'massively compensated' because the FA/FL have rules about how much Academy players can be paid. It is exactly the same amount for every player. At 17, he may have been promised a professional contract but the terms of that contract will depend on many factors and be negotiated at the time.

2. He won't have been promised a 'pathway' to the first team but the coaches would have discussed a 'development plan' that if everything goes well would see him get a chance of reaching the first team. This is the same for every Academy player and will depend on form, injuries, personal development and motivation/attitude. He will have been shown how so many youth players have reached the first team in recent and past years and see that we have given debut's to eight Academy players this season and the current first team squad has over ten Academy graduates playing regularly. It will be up to him to force his way in. The club will not give guarantees.

3. We have been scouting him for some time and he was over here in Manchester in August 2018 for a trial. Whatever has been going on at Barcelona has been upsetting him for at least two years otherwise why would he want to leave.

4. There is just a big pull to play for United's Academy because so many kids do reach the first team. It doesn't work for everyone and players like Jude Bellingham and others make decisions on other factors. I'm guessing Jurado's agents and family would have talked to the likes of Mejia, Puigmal and maybe even Mata to get a sense of the club before making a decision.

5. These deals have been going on since the 1940's. Young lads stand out at schoolboy level and end up having loads of trials at clubs up and down the country. It's obviously an international set-up these days but the principle are the same. The kid has made a football decision and time will tell if he has made the right choice for both parties.
 
Mr. MUJAC said:
OK.

1. He wont have been 'massively compensated' because the FA/FL have rules about how much Academy players can be paid. It is exactly the same amount for every player. At 17, he may have been promised a professional contract but the terms of that contract will depend on many factors and be negotiated at the time.

2. He won't have been promised a 'pathway' to the first team but the coaches would have discussed a 'development plan' that if everything goes well would see him get a chance of reaching the first team. This is the same for every Academy player and will depend on form, injuries, personal development and motivation/attitude. He will have been shown how so many youth players have reached the first team in recent and past years and see that we have given debut's to eight Academy players this season and the current first team squad has over ten Academy graduates playing regularly. It will be up to him to force his way in. The club will not give guarantees.

3. We have been scouting him for some time and he was over here in Manchester in August 2018 for a trial. Whatever has been going on at Barcelona has been upsetting him for at least two years otherwise why would he want to leave.

4. There is just a big pull to play for United's Academy because so many kids do reach the first team. It doesn't work for everyone and players like Jude Bellingham and others make decisions on other factors. I'm guessing Jurado's agents and family would have talked to the likes of Mejia, Puigmal and maybe even Mata to get a sense of the club before making a decision.

5. These deals have been going on since the 1940's. Young lads stand out at schoolboy level and end up having loads of trials at clubs up and down the country. It's obviously an international set-up these days but the principle are the same. The kid has made a football decision and time will tell if he has made the right choice for both parties.
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Good post. Thanks for the reply. If we've been courting him for some time, that's quite encouraging. Not sure he'd be too down on what's happening at Barca because as soon as their brains start working again the academy products will get plenty of chances.

Look forward to seeing him evolve.
 
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Marc Jurado's reply more or less confirmed the move.
 
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