Marc Cucurella | Confirmed

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Seems like another Nathan Ake to me. Couldn’t see the fuss but I figured if both Chelsea and City are after him, he must be good. Turns out there wasn’t much to shout about there.
 
It has become impossible to get decent players for reasonable fees from English clubs.
 
My god if Barca hijack this one too …..
 
If Barca manage to nab Cucurella from under Chelseas nose, you know for a fact that Chelsea are going to go batshit mental
 
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Whether he’s ready right now isn’t the the question. With reasonable playing time he could very quickly develop into the sort of player Chelsea would drop £60m on. Buy back clause, if true, somewhat eases that annoyance but we’ve now lost 3 brilliant CBs in consecutive windows. That’s depressing, regardless whether people think he’s ready for Chelsea or not.
Problem with this talented kids is they want game time assurances. Nobody want them to go but they need to accept they are third choice. Of course if they train and prove the manager they are better they will get their chance. But lesser playing time means their development become slower.

Cho prime example for that. If he went to loan he would have developed lot sooner. But with limited game time he had his development became lot slower.
 
Well at least he won’t be whipping in dangerous crosses at OT on Sunday
 
Chelsea will just take it out on us and sign all our targets.
 
Barca chose violence this summer :lol:

They’ve been wanting Alonso from Chelsea but may just end up going for Cucurella instead!
 
Weird signing considering he'll be behind Chilwell. For 50 million you'd expect him to start surely?

Apparently he played 10 games as LCB so it’s okay. Despite the fact Koulibaly is a LCB.

Chelsea are just bidding for players utterly randomly
 
Problem with this talented kids is they want game time assurances. Nobody want them to go but they need to accept they are third choice. Of course if they train and prove the manager they are better they will get their chance. But lesser playing time means their development become slower.

Cho prime example for that. If he went to loan he would have developed lot sooner. But with limited game time he had his development became lot slower.

This is where as a club you have to have the balls to play them though. Can’t have it every which way.
 
Embarrassing for Chelsea or City? Or are we just leaving that energy just for United?
 
Won't be surprised if City pulled out because they knew Barca were interested and he will choose them.
 
This is where as a club you have to have the balls to play them though. Can’t have it every which way.
True. And even saying that surely the best way to play a promising young CB is as part of a back 3? Not much can go wrong if he has Thiago Silva and Koulibaly either side of him babysitting him. Seems like the ideal conditions for him to blossom.
 
Don’t they have Chilwell?

A lot of money to spend on a position when they have him already.
 
Apparently he played 10 games as LCB so it’s okay. Despite the fact Koulibaly is a LCB.

Chelsea are just bidding for players utterly randomly
It really is bizzare. This is similar to when Abramovich brought in SWP for big money when Chelsea already had Duff, Robben, and Joe Cole. Y'know for depth.

Of course, that Chelsea team was pretty much complete whereas this one has glaring weaknesses in the attacking areas that they really should be addressing instead. Still, as top 4 rivals long may they continue to overpay for backup.
 
If Barcelona are hijacking all of Chelsea’s deals and Chelsea are hijacking all of our deals, does that make us a ****’s ****?
 


For what it's worth - this guy has been Tier 1 for Chelsea since the Boehly takeover.

Brighton did the same for Ben white deal with arsenal too if I remembered correctly. After cucurella where will boehly stops as his next target. Fofana or gvardiol. Probably de Jong it seems.
 
Well my assumption came true, it was time for him to make a big move , decent player indeed .

I would have loved to have him here if we gotten rid of shaw but that doesn't seem to be the plan, Malacia has great potential so I'm hoping he'll develop into a world class player.
 
True. And even saying that surely the best way to play a promising young CB is as part of a back 3? Not much can go wrong if he has Thiago Silva and Koulibaly either side of him babysitting him. Seems like the ideal conditions for him to blossom.

Very good point.
 
Don’t they have Chilwell?

A lot of money to spend on a position when they have him already.

Would assume Chilwell's recovery back to his best level isn't going as well as hoped and that's why the club have opted for another expensive signing there? Chilwell barely featured in pre-season and from what I've read (didn't watch any of the friendlies) he wasn't all that great when he actually did play.

The wing-backs are really important for Tuchel's game system so can't exactly afford to go into the season half-assed again. Tuchel and the club obviously don't want to go forward with Alonso or Emerson playing regularly so while making another big money signing for his place may be harsh towards Chilwell, that's simply top level football for ya. If he takes another 6-12 months to get back to form, Cucurella can be a crucial player in the meanwhile. Whether Chilwell eventually regains the starting LWB place for himself is anyone's guess but Cucurella is said to be very capable as a LCB in a back-3 as well so maybe Tuchel believes there'll be plenty of opportunities for both of them. A lot depends on whether 1 or 2 new CBs are signed during the rest of the window, and so far the signing of Cucurella would imply the club will go after only one.
 
It really is bizzare. This is similar to when Abramovich brought in SWP for big money when Chelsea already had Duff, Robben, and Joe Cole. Y'know for depth.

Of course, that Chelsea team was pretty much complete whereas this one has glaring weaknesses in the attacking areas that they really should be addressing instead. Still, as top 4 rivals long may they continue to overpay for backup.

Arguably the biggest part of our attacking weaknesses last season was our wingbacks got hurt - the dropoff from Chilwell / James to Alonso / Azpilicueta was and is absolutely massive. After Lukaku got hurt last October and when Chilwell and James were still fit we were absolutely slaughtering teams.

Getting in a versatile player who can play multiple positions (and who might be better than Chilwell especially as he comes back from injury) seems sensible. Having an alternative for Koulibaly at LCB also lets Koulibaly play in the centre when Silva needs a rest - especially in an unprecedented World Cup year it seems prudent to have options.
 
I’ve not got any memories that stand out about this guy, but is he worth £52m? He’s surely primarily going to be a sub behind chilwell? Unless he’s someone who can play in a back 3?

You should have at least one memory, he scored his one and only last season against us.
 
Problem with this talented kids is they want game time assurances. Nobody want them to go but they need to accept they are third choice. Of course if they train and prove the manager they are better they will get their chance. But lesser playing time means their development become slower.

Cho prime example for that. If he went to loan he would have developed lot sooner. But with limited game time he had his development became lot slower.

They aren’t demanding to be starters. The assurances they want is nothing more than reasonable game time - Sarr and Chalobah played over 2000 minutes combined last season. Colwill could easily eat into some of that and some of Silva’s minutes who will have to be managed even more than last season, and that would have been enough. Increase his minutes the following season if he proves himself. The idea that there is nothing in between outright first choice and getting rid of them is absurd.

Chelsea are still excellent at integrating academy players and will likely continue to be but some of the obvious gems being gone no less frustrating.
 
Arguably the biggest part of our attacking weaknesses last season was our wingbacks got hurt - the dropoff from Chilwell / James to Alonso / Azpilicueta was and is absolutely massive. After Lukaku got hurt last October and when Chilwell and James were still fit we were absolutely slaughtering teams.

Getting in a versatile player who can play multiple positions (and who might be better than Chilwell especially as he comes back from injury) seems sensible. Having an alternative for Koulibaly at LCB also lets Koulibaly play in the centre when Silva needs a rest - especially in an unprecedented World Cup year it seems prudent to have options.
Even from the start of window we wanted to sign wingback covers. We need to sign proper wingbacks to challenge top 2. We also from the start going after central defenders. And wingers as well. Where it became random i don't know.

We missed some targets I am sure so go after next best possible target. Boehly fully backing tuchel in this window. And tuchel knows exactly what's needed to be competitive in this league for title.

If cucurella arrived still will go for one more player minimum assuming chukwuemeka will be in first team otherwise two more.
 
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