Pretty much initiated goal situation, what's weirder is Andreas didn't decide to cross and gave the ball to Fred just before scoring.
Manchester United vs Everton (Friendly) Saturday 7th August 2021 @ 12:45pm BST
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It's not the main problem. You look at this Everton-side and ask yourself - do they have a squad that is better than Arsenal, Spurs, Leicester, Aston Villa - the answer is no. So anything better than 9th will be a strong season for Everton - but they wont end better than 9th. But they have fans who expect them to reach a higher position.
Yes their first 11 is decent - not great, but behind those 11 its paper-thin
True, but will he now be on his well earned holiday after today. He should be match sharp, but tiredness could be an issue.
Brentford was a much better competitive match to judge some of the players on the fringes.
We did good but Everton gave us alot today.
We did good but Everton gave us alot today.
Thanks, to be expected really. Was hoping he'd be sharper and ahead of where I presumed he would be. Heart over head scenario.
He wanted to shoot.
Dalot defensively and offensively - not the same thing. I still don't think Dalot is good enough defensively, but he is good enough as backup for AWB
Great performance in the second most important match happening today.
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I agree. Hence the rumours of Rafa eyeing Salmon Randon makes plenty of sense in the short term. I've heard he successfully made himself a fee agent
Sorry but I wouldn't feel confident going into next season with Dalot and Williams as back-ups for AWB and Shaw.
Enjoyed that game as well, but the defence was not the one you suspect will start against Leeds. Loved the tempo in both games.
Was he in China as well? Not sure Everton fans will be impressed. They have been shopping in the bargain basement.
Wes Brown doesn't think that was a penalty! 
I thought Matic and DVB looked very assured with their quick incisive passing. Gives Ole something to think about going forward with McFred combination. Obviously, 3 very well taken goals. Still a bit concerning with some of the defending. Hopefully, Varane will remedy that once he gets to speed. Maguire and Varane should also be massive threats in the opposing penalty areas.
It would be good decision too, especially when Fred had worse angle to cross.
Yeah. To be fair, we played some really good stuff in the first half but as you said, it's quite worrying how poor they did look.
Everton have had a pretty good pre season and definitely ahead of us fitness wise so it was a surprise to see us look sharper than them. They looked quite sharp in their games in Orlando, had the likes of Digne, Godfrey etc available for them for 2 weeks longer than our lot.
They created a few big chances that maybe DCL would've scored though but otherwise we were all over then today and that was without so much of our talent.
Leeds will be a much tougher game for us absolutely, but I am definitely more confident
They created a few big chances that maybe DCL would've scored though but otherwise we were all over then today and that was without so much of our talent.
Leeds will be a much tougher game for us absolutely, but I am definitely more confident
Well I never said I wanted them to win.
Glad the boys have been working hard this week after those Cheeseburgers.
I thought that. There was a time when he put on quite a bit of weight but as you said, looking in great shape now.
And wasn't disappointed.Looking forward to watching Bruno play.
Good win, didn't get the opportunity to watch it, who was the stand outs for United and how many of that starting 11 today do you think will also start v Leeds?
Apology accepted
Exactly, we can use the money saved towards a DM which has got to be the next most important position to strengthen.
I beg to differ
You can beg to differ all you want. I spend countless times defending Paul.
He had a poor game today and there's not much more to add really. People can say it's a pre season game but I can only comment on what I see and today I saw a sloppy Pogba.
Did one of those three on MUTV just fart?
I don't think, they are meaningless at all. Sure, to evaluate a players quality, it doesn't make sense. But that applies to any individual game. Pre-season gives some insight about the ideas of the manager, I think, it is pretty clear, that we try to play a more quicker and risikier short pass game and that we don't seem to want to stay using a double pivot. That isn't meaningless at all.
Pleasing afternoons entertainment. Much better movement and link up based on Matic's dictation from deep. I have to question though the metrics by which people judge a player's performance. Some players seem to get critiqued for the slightest mistake yet others perseved as better don't. Maybe it's just me?
Telles is the back to Shaw. As for Dalot o don't trust him against any opposition unless he is at rwb in a back 3.
Oh yeah, that guy.
What a underwhelming signing he's been.
Agreed. People conveniently ignoring that he wasn't used much last season because he wasn't in the squad and using that against him and wondering why we renewed Mata's contract.
Also, very harsh to judge players in their first preseason game of the season.
Seems like Ole decision to hire a 'set-piece' coach has been paid off so far.
Well, it won't be Williams as he'll be out on loan. Most likely backups are Telles and Dalot/Trippier.
I'm curious how Garner played when he came on. Can someone give some assessment
Wish that was the first league game!!
Just a friendly but it showed we do have some depth now that the loanees are back (for now) and with Varane and Sancho to join and Rashford back in 2 months, we look quite strong.
Just a friendly but it showed we do have some depth now that the loanees are back (for now) and with Varane and Sancho to join and Rashford back in 2 months, we look quite strong.
Yeah DVB playing that deep role is the most positive thing for me. Hopefully he can give us a solid option from there this season.
Matic was fantastic for the first 30 minutes or so, probably the best anybody played in the match. He did drift out of it a bit after that though, and was then replaced at halftime. Bruno was good. Maguire and Shaw were their usual solid selves; probably Lindelof as well. Mason was good in the first half when he was on the right, in the second half he played up front and wasn't as good. VDB was probably better than he was last season, although I wouldn't say he was anything more than decent.
In the second half Fred was average for the first 15 minutes but good after that, and Dalot was surprisingly good once he came on.
I'm tempted to say Matic might have played himself into the starting line-up in the first match, but Leeds' hard-pressing style might be a really bad opponent for him.